Scoot and Sharpe would have been the worst shooting backcourt in the NBA last season

[sheed30]

Last season, Ayton played 514 minutes with Anfernee Simons, with Scoot off the floor. He had a USG% of 21.6 in those minutes. He took 215 FGs in those 514 minutes. Ant had 96 assists in those minutes. He played 454 minutes with Scott, with Anfernee off the floor. He had a USG% of 24.2 in those minutes. He took 222 shots in those 454 minutes. Scoot had 102 assists in those minutes.

I adjusted for when they were on the floor with eachother, without the other guard, as that seemed far more relevant. obviously, one would have to break it down even further to get an entirely true picture of who was playing what. But that quick look shows Ayton with a higher usg%, and more FGAs per minute with Scoot. Which, to me, would imply getting him more involved.

Usage doesn’t imply Scoot got him
more involved, usage also depends on who is on the floor with Ayton and Scoot, and when Ayton had that good stretch of games, he was the main point of the offense many games while Grant and Any didn’t play

there was games towards the end of the where we had this kind of starting line up

Scoot
Murray
Rupert
Walker
Ayton

Ofcourse Ayton usage will go up with that line up lol.

 

[sheed30]

Scoot is the better PG.

But we need to know who else was on the floor with those 2 guys for those stats to be valid IMO. If they were the same 3 guys in both instances then those stats are more telling. But of course, they weren't. I say this because in some of those end-of-season games when Ayton went for 30, the other starters (besides Scoot) were Rupert, Murray, and Walker. Of course, Ayton would be the focus on offense in that scenario.

Ah you beat me too it

 

[Phatguysrule]

Scoot is the better PG.

But we need to know who else was on the floor with those 2 guys for those stats to be valid IMO. If they were the same 3 guys in both instances then those stats are more telling. But of course, they weren't. I say this because in some of those end-of-season games when Ayton went for 30, the other starters (besides Scoot) were Rupert, Murray, and Walker. Of course, Ayton would be the focus on offense in that scenario.

But the reality is if you're talking about scoot and Ayton on the floor without Simons and Simons and Ayton on the floor without Scoot the other guys are probably going to be about the same. Roughly.

Either way. It's pretty clear that Ayton plays better with Scoot. As you say, Scoot is the better point guard.

 

[sheed30]

But the reality is if you're talking about scoot and Ayton on the floor without Simons and Simons and Ayton on the floor without Scoot the other guys are probably going to be about the same. Roughly.

Either way. It's pretty clear that Ayton plays better Scoot. As you say, Scoot is the better point guard.

You just can’t admit defeat on certain topics huh?
It’s definitely not pretty clear Ayton plays better with Scoot, nothing has shown that.

Keeping “assuming” with nothing to back it up.

 

[Pinwheel1]

But the reality is if you're talking about scoot and Ayton on the floor without Simons and Simons and Ayton on the floor without Scoot the other guys are probably going to be about the same. Roughly.

Either way. It's pretty clear that Ayton plays better Scoot. As you say, Scoot is the better point guard.

Yeah, you are right. Here is one example

https://www.espn.com/nba/boxscore/_/gameId/401585581

 

[Phatguysrule]

You just can’t admit defeat on certain topics huh?
It’s definitely not pretty clear Ayton plays better with Scoot, nothing has shown that.

Keeping “assuming” with nothing to back it up.

It is clear when you watch them play. And the numbers back it up.

Scoot is a better PG than Simons. Simons is a better scorer than Scoot.

 

[PtldPlatypus]

You just can’t admit defeat on certain topics huh?
It’s definitely not pretty clear Ayton plays better with Scoot, nothing has shown that.

Keeping “assuming” with nothing to back it up.

You realize that the initial statement that you were arguing against was not "Ayton plays better with Scoot", but rather "Scoot appears more inclined to get Ayton involved," right? One does not equal the other.

 

[twobullz]

I have not read through the whole thread, but curious where they rank age wise for starting backcourts?

 

[RR7]

If someone has more assists in fewer minutes to a specific player, would you say he is more or less inclined to get the ball to that player than one who has less assists in more minutes?

 

[Whyachi]

Simons isn't half the point guard that Dame is. He's good at scoring but he's not a distributor.

wait until Cronin gives Anfernee his 5yr 200m extension. The complaint box will get overloaded within hours.

If the Blazers are touting Anfernee as their iconic player, they should at least pay him the right amount.

If the Blazers can't win, Anfernee has proved 3 years straight he can fake injuries like nobody's business. It's not easy finding star talent that will put the GM's draft wishlist above personal accolades.

 

[Phatguysrule]

I have not read through the whole thread, but curious where they rank age wise for starting backcourts?

They would be the youngest at 20.5. Detroit would be the next youngest at 22 years of age average. Then only San Antonio, OKC, and Houston would be below 24 years of age.

 

[Phatguysrule]

Yeah, you are right. Here is one example

https://www.espn.com/nba/boxscore/_/gameId/401585581

Yes, that would be 1 example. You are correct.

 

[Everything Beagle]

Yes, that would be 1 example. You are correct.

 

[jlprk]

Besides his face always looking uninterested, Sharpe's dribbling is forward-level, not guard-level.
1, 2, 3, 4...traveling.

 

[Whyachi]

Besides his face always looking uninterested, Sharpe's dribbling is forward-level, not guard-level.
1, 2, 3, 4...traveling.

Shaedon was thinking about dunking it from the 3 point line.

 

[sheed30]

Besides his face always looking uninterested, Sharpe's dribbling is forward-level, not guard-level.
1, 2, 3, 4...traveling.

Did you know, Sharpe ended up missing that shot, which contributed to his horrible 40% shooting for the season?

 

[sheed30]

So I'll bump this, just to show many people in here said he will be fine and now complaining in the Bust a Scoot thread..

BTW, when I made this thread, it was more a clap back of all the negative Nancy's and not a real reflection of what I really think of Scoot.

You need to give him 2-4 years at least, you need PATIENCE, and if none of you guys don't have that then stop pushing the Blazers need to tank if you don't have patience to give the youngsters time to grow, especially a 21 year old Scoot and a 22 year old Sharpe.

 

[Phatguysrule]

So I'll bump this, just to show many people in here said he will be fine and now complaining in the Bust a Scoot thread..

BTW, when I made this thread, it was more a clap back of all the negative Nancy's and not a real reflection of what I really think of Scoot.

You need to give him 2-4 years at least, you need PATIENCE, and if none of you guys don't have that then stop pushing the Blazers need to tank if you don't have patience to give the youngsters time to grow, especially a 21 year old Scoot and a 22 year old Sharpe.

He still very well may be fine. He definitely has the body and athleticism.

We should not count on it though. We need to keep stockpiling young talent. Not middle aged talent like Simons.

It doesn't matter if we have a capable point guard right now. All that matters is stockpiling and developing YOUNG talent.

 

[THE HCP]

Dude has played 60 games and everyone has already called him a bust? Man, I just can’t do it.

 

[SharpesTriumph]

So I'll bump this, just to show many people in here said he will be fine and now complaining in the Bust a Scoot thread..

BTW, when I made this thread, it was more a clap back of all the negative Nancy's and not a real reflection of what I really think of Scoot.

You need to give him 2-4 years at least, you need PATIENCE, and if none of you guys don't have that then stop pushing the Blazers need to tank if you don't have patience to give the youngsters time to grow, especially a 21 year old Scoot and a 22 year old Sharpe.

Why do fans need patience? Im not Scoots boss or the GM of the team. He's playing bad and a huge disappointment of what we hoped from the #3 pick. Seems totally justified to state those disappointments.

I'm not saying the Blazers should cut him.

But we praise players like Camara who greatly exceed expectations. Seems perfectly reasonable to criticize players that fall far short of expectations.