Let clarify my point then. Any of those guys could help the team more than Jeff pendergraph with a torn ACL, Greg with tendonitis bad enough to keep him out of action until maybe Christmas, Camby with a groin pull and a hip pointer, and Joel with two knee surgeries on the same torn pattellar tendon in the last 10 months. I'm not talking about trading for some kind of savior at the 4 or the 5, just a guy who can play at a reasaonable level as a backup at the 4 or the 5 and who can hopefully stay somewhat healthy.