Politics Seeded With Tax Cuts, Kansas Harvests the Benefits

[jlprk]

Austerity.

Look at the pretty graph. what does the red line going up mean?

Laughing at yourself? Look at the horrific green line. No change from late 70s to the early 80s in the party controlling Congress. The only change was Reagan and his austerity-forcing debts. He turned his party into the ideology of freeloader borrowing.

What a moronic post. If Israel wanted to nuke the Middle East or kill all the Arabs, it would have been done long ago.

Then Israel would have immediately been terminated by the superpowers. But thanks for warning readers when your post is about to be moronic.

 

[Denny Crane]

Laughing at yourself? Look at the horrific green line. No change from late 70s to the early 80s in the party controlling Congress. The only change was Reagan and his austerity-forcing debts. He turned his party into the ideology of freeloader borrowing.



Then Israel would have immediately been terminated by the superpowers. But thanks for warning readers that your post is about to be moronic.

Do you get dizzy from spinning so much?

There were no austerity forcing debts. They were there in 1980, when Carter was president.

Next you'll tell me you were only making a joke. What a knee slapper.

 

[jlprk]

Did you just say that Carter ran $200 billion annual deficits like Reagan? Do you deny that in his very first budget year, Reagan more than doubled Carter's worst year (of 4 years)...and that first year was Reagan's BEST year for deficits (out of 8 fucking worse years...it was just hell to live under that laughing freeloader).

 

[Denny Crane]

You are mixing the words "debt" and "deficits."

Surely you understand the difference.

The green line is deficit, and it wasn't $0 in 1980. The debt and deficit each roughly doubled in Carter's 4 years, and again in Reagan's 8.

Your statement about austerity is absurd.

In economics, austerity is the policy of reducing government budget deficits. Austerity policies may include spending cuts, tax increases, or a mixture of both.

Budget deficits didn't reduce. Anyone who can read a graph can see that is true.

 

[jlprk]

Oh and by the way, Reagan was so pissed off at Menachem Begin over his invasions against American will, that he had his wife offed while Begin was in Washington, D.C.

That neutralized Begin, and introduced years of more liberal Israeli prime ministers to American liking. Your hero Reagan was the most anti-Israel president before or since, in his strong reactions to Israeli aggression.

 

[Denny Crane]

LOL at the fantasies you come up with.

Reagan ordered peacekeepers to Palestine and many were killed by a terrorist act.

http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/1983_Beirut_barracks_bombing

 

[Denny Crane]

I bet Reagan had sex with your mother and gave her AIDS.

Or maybe you think so.

 

[jlprk]

I never confused debt and deficit and you know it. Nice little diversion there, I must compliment you.

I'm not going to look it up, but Carter averaged $20-something billion deficits, while Reagan averaged $200-something billion.

10 times as much. You throw out dictionary definitions to deny that fact...ha ha ha!!! Along with something irrelevant about doubling.

Gotta compliment you again. Great lying. It'll fool most of your readers.

10 times as much...10 times as much. That's what matters. Democratic Congress caused it? Then why didn't they cause $200 billion deficits under Carter? Reagan caused it.

 

[Denny Crane]

Laughing at yourself? Look at the horrific green line. No change from late 70s to the early 80s in the party controlling Congress. The only change was Reagan and his austerity-forcing debts. He turned his party into the ideology of freeloader borrowing.

DEBT

Did you just say that Carter ran $200 billion annual deficits like Reagan? Do you deny that in his very first budget year, Reagan more than doubled Carter's worst year (of 4 years)...and that first year was Reagan's BEST year for deficits (out of 8 fucking worse years...it was just hell to live under that laughing freeloader).

DEFICIT

 

[Denny Crane]

The green line is deficit.

By definition, austerity would be shrinking deficits. You can't have it both ways.

 

[jlprk]

Yes and by definition, torture would have won Bush's wars. And by definition, a little country like Vietnam can't beat a big one like the U.S. And by definition, trickle-down economics trickles wealth down.

You're in a dictionary mood today.

 

[Denny Crane]

Yes and by definition, torture would have won Bush's wars. And by definition, a little country like Vietnam can't beat a big one like the U.S. And by definition, trickle-down economics trickles wealth down.

You're in a dictionary mood today.

When confronted with your mistake, you change the subject.

Trickle down government for the past 6 years is the source of rioting in the streets. It's failed.




The truth hurts, doesn't it?

 

[Denny Crane]

How can that be?

 

[jlprk]

Every article and chart I've seen for years says that median income froze beginning under Reagan.

But again, you found the one article/chart that disproves all others! Congratulations again! This is why we pay you the big bucks.

 

[Denny Crane]

What do you think this is, global warming data?

 

[Denny Crane]

Ironically, that recession in 1991 was on the guy who coined the phrase "voodoo economics."

 

[MARIS61]

 

[MarAzul]

Actually it does. Because the explicit claim is that businesses (and therefore workers) will move to Kansas because of the tax policy. I don't believe that's going to happen.

barfo

uh, the people that are already there want to work. Workers might not move there but business may relocate that sweat shop on the other side of the river.

 

[barfo]

uh, the people that are already there want to work. Workers might not move there but business may relocate that sweat shop on the other side of the river.

Denny says there is hardly any unemployment in Kansas, so there isn't much to be gained there.

barfo

 

[MarAzul]

Denny says there is hardly any unemployment in Kansas, so there isn't much to be gained there.

barfo

The tax policy is working! Hurray!

 

[Denny Crane]

Denny says there is hardly any unemployment in Kansas, so there isn't much to be gained there.

barfo

No, what I said is the constitution grants everyone a right to privacy except you.

Learn to read.

 

[lawai'a]

let the conspiracy theories begin. is this case of private emails justified? seems he defended it with the same excuse that Clinton used.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2015/...-says-usin_n_7308238.html?utm_hp_ref=politics

 

[Denny Crane]

Attorney General Derek Schmidt, a Republican, issued an opinion recently saying that the state's open records law does not cover private emails from public officials, but he recommended that lawmakers fix that loophole.

http://www.politico.com/story/2015/03/state-department-email-rule-hillary-clinton-115804.html

Clinton private email violated 'clear-cut' State Dept. rules
The policy warns against routine use of personal email accounts


(but yeah, it's exactly the same)

 

[donkiez]

To Fill Budget Hole, Kansas G.O.P. Considers the Unthinkable: Raising Taxes


http://www.nytimes.com/2015/05/30/u...sider-the-unthinkable-raising-taxes.html?_r=0

Mr. Donovan said the results of the tax law were “never as good as we hoped.”

“We hoped they would just be a magic lantern and everybody would react to it,” he said. “But, eh, it’s hard to get a company to uproot their business when they’re established and move to another place just because of this difference in tax policy.”

 

[Denny Crane]

http://finance.yahoo.com/news/why-business-is-leaving-california-for-texas-174227275.html

Why business is leaving California for Texas

Part of the appeal of the Lone Star state, in addition to lower taxes, says Puzder, is that “you don’t have the very burdensome wage and hour laws that you have in California.” Even permitting procedures become a factor in growth prospects for certain states.

Puzder gave the example that, “in Texas it takes 60-63 days to get permits. In Los Angeles it takes 280 days and in San Francisco we’re not sure how many days it takes because it has been so long since anyone could open a restaurant there.” These factors are crucial for new businesses because the property sits idle until permitting allows construction to begin, creating losses for every day there’s a delay, according to Puzder.

Puzder's company has announced plans to open hundreds of new restaurants in Texas, thanks in large part to the state's speedy permitting process. “Our intent is to built 300 (stores) in Texas in this decade, whereas in California we’ll build very few restaurants."

 

[lawai'a]

seems there are still major budgetary problems with slashing taxes and creating only low wage jobs
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2015/...wnback-tax_n_7473790.html?utm_hp_ref=politics

 

[Denny Crane]

HuffPost is a great source.

 

[lawai'a]

attack the source? denny that is a terrible terrible argument .

 

[Denny Crane]

attack the source? denny that is a terrible terrible argument .

Sorry, but the source is full of drivel on a daily basis. It's agenda driven and anything in it is cherry picked to confirm their bias.

At least donkiez cited a liberal source that quoted a republican.

 

[lawai'a]

argue the facts, deny them or ? the NY times next? the conservative fallback is often attack the messenger when the evidence or facts are undeniable there are republican quotes in the huff piece