Politics Seeded With Tax Cuts, Kansas Harvests the Benefits

[lawai'a]

YOU DISPUTE THAT THERE IS A $461 million dollar deficit or that they are talking about the need to raise taxes? those are the only ascertations made here

 

[Denny Crane]

"Just three years ago, many of these lawmakers passed the largest tax cuts in state history, saying they would lead to economic growth. But that growth did not appear"

 

[SlyPokerDog]

Except it isn't me misstating anything.

Dude, you love to argue.

 

[Denny Crane]

"Since those changes, Gov. Sam Brownback and lawmakers have found themselves repeatedly tinkering with the budget to fill hundreds of millions of dollars in shortfalls."

He inherited $1B deficit.

 

[Denny Crane]

I'm responding to the questions asked.

And stupid left wing bullshit

 

[lawai'a]

"Just three years ago, many of these lawmakers passed the largest tax cuts in state history, saying they would lead to economic growth. But that growth did not appear"

denny I started a thread just for you.

 

[lawai'a]

my arguments both thoughtful and quite honorable even though we disagree are "just STUPID left wing bullshit"? denny you just dropped down a couple of notches in my regard for you, clearly another case of attack the messanger

 

[Denny Crane]

Sorry, but I've debunked all the left wing media smear with fact.

It is left wing bullshit. They cannot stand it that tax cuts are better than really high tax rates. Tickles their "fairness" funny bone the wrong way or something.

You asked what I objected to. I quoted you parts of the article that are clearly in error. You don't seem to have read the article and think there are only 2 facts to it. I assumed you read it, instead of a couple of sentences out of context.

What Kansas did wrong was to create a loophole that individuals could file as businesses and cheat the tax code. That's what they're going to fix.

 

[Denny Crane]

 

[lawai'a]

what facts did you dispute before diatribe of libertarian "rightness" do you ascribe to any diety?

 

[Denny Crane]

what facts did you dispute before diatribe of libertarian "rightness" do you ascribe to any diety?

That the economic woes in Kansas are a result of the tax cuts. The deficit is SMALLER because of the tax cuts.

And that's not any libertarian "rightness" - if it were up to me there'd be no income tax at all, not just cuts.

 

[lawai'a]

the article only states that Kansas has a deficit and that it will probably require tax hikes. drivel was your response.

 

[Denny Crane]

That the economic woes in Kansas are a result of the tax cuts. The deficit is SMALLER because of the tax cuts.

And that's not any libertarian "rightness" - if it were up to me there'd be no income tax at all, not just cuts.

It states more than that.

Sheesh.



I quoted this earlier.

The growth did appear.

 

[lawai'a]

denny I wish you luck. the facts are that "all men are created equal" , that economic opportunity are not.

 

[Denny Crane]

 

[Denny Crane]

denny I wish you luck. the facts are that "all men are created equal" , that economic opportunity are not.

Finally you say something reasonable.

Outcomes are not equal because people are not equal. I'm not as good a basketball player as LMA. He makes way more than I do. That's life.

 

[lawai'a]

do you dispute that there is a $461 million dollar deficit in Kansas? is the likely outcome thet they will raise taxes? (I am sure that I have typed these exact words before) to dispute this is way past the pale.

 

[Denny Crane]

do you dispute that there is a $461 million dollar deficit in Kansas? is the likely outcome thet they will raise taxes? (I am sure that I have typed these exact words before) to dispute this is way past the pale.

Do you dispute there was a $1B deficit in Kansas before the tax cuts?

Is $461M less than $1B?

 

[lawai'a]

Finally you say something reasonable.

Outcomes are not equal because

Do you dispute there was a $1B deficit in Kansas before the tax cuts?

Is $461M less than $1B?

eople are not equal. I'm not as good a basketball player as LMA. He makes way more than I do. That's life.

no but you attacked the message source, do you dispute the fact . I cannot argue/debate woith you otherwise

 

[lawai'a]

slight of hand -----sorry debate facts ok you are a disciple of greed I get that doesn't make it right. I am my brothers keeper.

 

[Denny Crane]

no but you attacked the message source, do you dispute the fact . I cannot argue/debate woith you otherwise

Your source is biased, do you not agree? Did it mention the $1B deficit and how that is reduced by 60%?

 

[Denny Crane]

slight of hand -----sorry debate facts ok you are a disciple of greed I get that doesn't make it right. I am my brothers keeper.

I'm not a disciple of greed. If you and I paint widgets for a living and you paint 20 a day and I paint 10 a day and do a shitty job, you should be paid more than me. It's common sense.

 

[lawai'a]

dispute facts you are not worthy of debate otherwise

 

[Denny Crane]

dispute facts you are not worthy of debate otherwise

what "facts" are you babbling about?

If a republican cured 99% of cancer, you would be whining about 1% not being cured and telling me to dispute that fact.

 

[jlprk]

It's all falling apart in Kansas. The kiss of death is when they claim it was just an "experiment."

http://www.washingtonpost.com/opini...80f1c5d44e_story.html?wpisrc=nl_p1most&wpmm=1

 

[Denny Crane]

WaPost hit piece.

Anyhow, it does say this:

But he bowed only so far. He didn’t roll back his steep cuts to income and business taxes, instead proposing an increase in the sales tax from 6.15 percent to 6.65 percent.

In theory, moving away from taxes on labor and business and toward taxes on consumption can have attractive economic benefits. But the way Mr. Brownback originally cut business taxes provided “an incentive to game the tax system without doing anything productive for the economy,” the Tax Foundation’s Joseph Henchman found. Raising revenue by reversing this distortionary policy would seem to be the obvious first step toward fixing the budget.