[Semi-OT] The Lakers are an absolute Dumpster Fire and I am loving every second of it

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just realized the Lakers signed Max Christie to a Nassir Little contract. Why didn't he take less money to help the Lakers avoid the luxury tax ??

simple scapegoat: blame the kid that worked hard in the G-League to get an NBA contract
 
watching a Laker fan meltdown..

"ESPN showed Bronny highlights, and said he was "cooking". He had 4 points, shot 22%, was getting burned on defense, and ESPN said he was cooking ?!?"
 
HoopsFanAZ said:
1. There is no rush on LeBron signing his contract. Locking it in before the Olympics matters, but his signing for a bit less to ensure they’re under the 2nd threshold is not tough to do — if Pelinka gets the work done to improve their chances. The announced “agreement” on 2 years/$104 MM is leverage to get moves done.

2. Pelinka has accomplished little to nothing this summer other than catching Knecht as he fell. Holding fast until February is not an option. No one is helping the Lakers and LeBron for a playoff run without the price going up. Having 2 of the top 15 players in the league and being a play-in team, again? Unacceptable.

3. IMHO, the best option on the board — in the realm of possibility, cost, and mentioned — for the Lakers is Grant.

Unprotected in 2030 and a 1st round pick swap in 2028 or 2031. That’s the sweet spot with Rui and Vincent.
2029 already has the Blazers getting 2 of 3 1st round picks.
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Knecht was mocked in the top 10, by him falling to the Lakers, they (Pelinka) may feel ok to let their picks go (currently pretending hard to get)

Grant for 2 firsts coming soon
 
LeBron tweet in March of 2023,

"Bronny definitely better then some of these cats I've been watching on League Pass today."

We'll have to wait and see if King James advanced scouting is correct. If Bronny goes to the G-League, I wouldn't hire LeBron as lead scout.
 
LeBron took a paycut !! He will get 101m instead of the 104m initially reported.
 
Whyachi said:
LeBron took a paycut !! He will get 101m instead of the 104m initially reported.
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The Lakers are staying open for business because they know that before training camp they'll pull the trigger on Jerami. How much it costs them is anyone's guess.
 
blazerkor said:
The Lakers are staying open for business because they know that before training camp they'll pull the trigger on Jerami. How much it costs them is anyone's guess.
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Jerami ain't leaving. The Lakers would make him play the entire season. *Troll alert, i know that's a mean thing to say. But look at his last 3 seasons in Detroit before joining Portland. Something goes haywire with his legs near the end of the season. Maybe he's not faking injuries? Grant is super fun to watch, incredible impact player. But his game history is only active for about 60-70 games. His last full season was a Pistons playoff run 6 years ago.
 
Whyachi said:
Jerami ain't leaving. The Lakers would make him play the entire season. *Troll alert, i know that's a mean thing to say. But look at his last 3 seasons in Detroit before joining Portland. Something goes haywire with his legs near the end of the season. Maybe he's not faking injuries? Grant is super fun to watch, incredible impact player. But his game history is only active for about 60-70 games. His last full season was a Pistons playoff run 6 years ago.
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I think these have to do with tanking.
 
I think the Lakers get Kuzma for 1 1st. The only way they wouldn't is if Kuzma doesn't want to go there.

The Mavs had a deal for Kuzma last trade deadline and he said no to wanting to go there. Too bad because he could have made the Finals a smidge more competitive.
 
after DeRozan did his sign & trade with Sacramento, Laker fans have now added Gary Trent Jr. to the rumor mill.

They still like the idea of trading for Jerami Grant, but they believe Cronin is up to no good, and wants a treasure chest in return.
 
JFizzleRaider said:
He was there a week or Two ago.

It was Derozan, Buddy Hield and Trent.
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2 weeks ago was open-ended Laker fan fantasy. Klay was the easist route, but tons of top player names hit the messege box..
Paul George, KD, Zion, bring Ingram back. It got a bit out of control, as off-season ideas usually do. Then D'Lo opted back in, maxed out the Lakers cap, which limited Showtime's field of dreams.
 
The names circulating in the media — Markkanen, Ingram, Grant — that are left.

The Lakers being below the 2nd apron preserves being able to (1) aggregate salaries in trades and (2) keep their 2031 draft pick (7 years away) from being frozen — unable to be traded.

Markkanen costs too many draft picks.
Ingram’s return for the Pelicans from the Lakers is not what a win-now team needs.
Grant costs 2 (fully unprotected?) 1st rounders.

The other names mentioned as on the Lakers list include … Kuzma.
I’m confident in 2 things — the media will generate more names and Pelinka cannot run it back.
 
Would the Lakers give up DLO + Rui for Grant straight across?

If so, this 4-way deal makes a lot of sense:

Lakers:
DLo + Rui => Grant
Get their guy.

Nets:
Johnson => DLo
Get the PG for their rebuild.

Kings:
Heurter => Rui
Get the PF they want

Portland:
Grant => Johnson + Heurter
Get younger & much better depth.
 
CJ_is_Gone said:
Would the Lakers give up DLO + Rui for Grant straight across?

If so, this 4-way deal makes a lot of sense:

Lakers:
DLo + Rui => Grant
Get their guy.

Nets:
Johnson => DLo
Get the PG for their rebuild.

Kings:
Heurter => Rui
Get the PF they want

Portland:
Grant => Johnson + Heurter
Get younger & much better depth.
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Johnson is 28. This is not the kind of move that Joe wants.
 
the mean Laker fans think Bronny is faking a knee injury, because he doesn't want to look bad in Summer League.
 
Natebishop3 said:
If LA doesn't want to give up two firsts, I'd do something like:

Rui/Vincent/2029 FRP unprotected and then 2 swaps.
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You wouldn't take both theirs and the Clippers 25 2nd rounders instead of swaps?
 
Natebishop3 said:
If LA doesn't want to give up two firsts, I'd do something like:
Rui/Vincent/2029 FRP unprotected and then 2 swaps.
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Portland has 3 picks in 2029 with the 2nd best already promised to Washington. Unless that pick is named specifically as the 2nd best of Portland, Boston or Milwaukee’s pick, then a 2029 pick from the Lakers could end up being the 2nd best — which would be BAD. A pick swap in 2029 also needs to NOT go to Washington.

If the above is actually an issue, then an unconditional 1st round pick in 2028 or 2030 and pick swaps in the other year and 2031 should do it … IMHO.
 
HoopsFanAZ said:
Portland has 3 picks in 2029 with the 2nd best already promised to Washington. Unless that pick is named specifically as the 2nd best of Portland, Boston or Milwaukee’s pick, then a 2029 pick from the Lakers could end up being the 2nd best — which would be BAD. A pick swap in 2029 also needs to NOT go to Washington.

If the above is actually an issue, then an unconditional 1st round pick in 2028 or 2030 and pick swaps in the other year and 2031 should do it … IMHO.
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They can't trade their 2028 FRP, they owe 2027 to the Jazz.

Almost definitely the terms of the Washington trade were the second most preferable of Portland's, Milwaukee's and Boston's 2029 first round picks. If we add an additional pick after that trade there would be no way that it would be included in the trade that preceded it. That would create madness.

I do think it might be smart to try and get a 2029 swap with the least desirable of ours, the Celts and Bucks' picks and then just get the Lakers 2030 FRP.
 
Okay, then …

2 pick swaps — one in 2029 with the least desirable of the 3.
If a pick swap is not made, a 2nd rounder is conveyed by the Lakers.

1 unconditional 1st rounder from the Lakers in 2030 or 2031.

Lakers can say they only gave up one pick and the swaps may never happen.
Portland can say they got 1 pick and may improve 2 other 1st rounders (or at least receive 2 2nd rounders, instead of the swaps)
 
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