Senate panel approves resolution on Syria military strikes

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http://news.yahoo.com/senate-panel-struggles-consensus-syria-military-strikes-181810233.html

WASHINGTON (Reuters) - The U.S. Senate Foreign Relations Committee approved a resolution on Wednesday authorizing a limited U.S. military intervention in Syria, setting the stage for a debate in the full Senate next week on the use of military force.

The committee voted 10-7 in favor of a compromise resolution that sets a 60-day limit on any engagement in Syria and bars the use of U.S. troops on the ground for combat operations.

The compromise is more limited than President Barack Obama's original proposal but meets the administration's goal of punishing Syria for what the U.S. government says is the use of chemical weapons on Syrian civilians, killing more than 1,400 people.

The authorization still faces significant resistance in Congress, where many lawmakers fear it could lead to a prolonged U.S. military involvement in Syria's civil war and spark an escalation of regional violence.
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The full Senate is expected to vote on the resolution next week. The House of Representatives also must approve the measure.

Obama and administration officials have pushed Congress to act quickly, saying U.S. national security and international credibility is at stake in the decision whether to use force in Syria to punish President Bashar al-Assad's government for chemical weapons use.

"If we don't take a stand here today, I guarantee you, we are more likely to face far greater risks to our security and a far greater likelihood of conflict that demands our action in the future," Secretary of State John Kerry told the House Foreign Affairs Committee at a separate meeting on Wednesday.

"Assad will read our silence, our unwillingness to act, as a signal that he can use his weapons with impunity," Kerry said.

The committee vote came after the two panel leaders - Democratic Chairman Robert Menendez and senior Republican Bob Corker - crafted a compromise to meet concerns from some lawmakers that Obama's resolution was too open-ended.
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Republican Senator John McCain of Arizona had objected to the more narrow wording. But the committee adopted amendments proposed by McCain with policy goals of degrading Assad's ability to use chemical weapons, increasing support for rebel forces and reversing battlefield momentum to create conditions for Assad's removal.

Many lawmakers have said they are worried the resolution could lead to U.S. ground troops, or "boots on the ground," in Syria - which administration officials said would not happen.

"It's very clear on the House side there is no support for boots on the ground," House Foreign Affairs Committee Chairman Ed Royce told Kerry at Wednesday's hearing, which also featured testimony from Defense Secretary Chuck Hagel and General Martin Dempsey, chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff.

Kerry answered flatly, "There will be no boots on the ground. The president has said it again and again."

(Additional reporting by Susan Cornwell, Vicki Allen, Susan Heavey, Thomas Ferraro; Writing by John Whitesides; Editing by Karey Van Hall, Vicki Allen and Jim Loney)
 
I am glad it's going to be discussed out in the open. I don't want to go to war again, but at least this is the way to do it. Let the congress do what they were suppose to have the authority to do, but which has been chipped away at, presidency after presidency.
 
"If we don't take a stand here today, I guarantee you, we are more likely to
face far greater risks to our security and a far greater likelihood of conflict
that demands our action in the future," Secretary of State John Kerry told the
House Foreign Affairs Committee at a separate meeting on Wednesday.

"Assad will read our silence, our unwillingness to act, as a signal that he can
use his weapons with impunity," Kerry said.

Right, sure, ok.
 
Its weird we take over the country of Iraq because we thought they had WMD then a different country actually uses them and we aren't sure if we should do anything about it. Maybe it was all about the oil.
 
Its weird we take over the country of Iraq because we thought they had WMD then a different country actually uses them and we aren't sure if we should do anything about it. Maybe it was all about the oil.

Well, Iraq was thought to be an imminent threat to the safety of the United States (it probably was) while Syria is none of our business.
 
Please. if they could get nukes they'd totally try to fuck with us.

Saddam had his people shredding machine, that was a WMD they were using on his own people, no?
 
We're also going at this all alone. No coalition of countries to back us up. England already voted to not do anything. Its quite the precarious situation without a coalition of the willing, son.

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I am so against US doing this again. But the fact the President AND congress thinks it is the appropriate action, makes me change my position a little on all this. I'm sure this is a incredibly complex issue with multi-layer of potential actions on both a national and global scale. Damn, I hate war and hate the fact the US is going at this alone.

Not sure why the President and Congress think this is a good idea, but I stand behind my country!
 
The justification on the left for this kind of shit now that its Obama as the Commander in Chief is comical. This is far less justified than going into Iraq. You have "confidence" in both the president and congress in this matter, these are the same fucks who thought a Youtube video caused Bengazi and they still have no fucking clue.

I still think this is a diversion to mask the impending collapse of the economy when FED policies are enacted to taper the QE.
 
Republican Senator John McCain of Arizona had objected to the more narrow wording. But the committee adopted amendments proposed by McCain with policy goals of degrading Assad's ability to use chemical weapons, increasing support for rebel forces and reversing battlefield momentum to create conditions for Assad's removal.
Al Qaeda's affiliate in Syria, Jabhat al-Nusra, is generally acknowledged to be the most effective force fighting al-Assad.
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"There is also a threat from terrorism, including groups like al-Qaida in Iraq (AQI) affiliated al-Nusrah Front," says the current State Department travel warning on Syria. "Since November 2011, al-Nusrah Front has claimed nearly 600 attacks--ranging from more than 40 suicide attacks to small arms and improvised explosive device operations---in major city centers including Damascus, Aleppo, Hamah, Dara, Homs, Idlib, and Dayr al-Zawr. Public places such as government buildings, shopping areas, and open spaces have been targeted."

http://cnsnews.com/news/article/ter...l-qaeda-affiliated-syrian-rebels-have-claimed

So, let's help our sworn enemies take down the Syrian government. What could possibly go wrong with that?

Go Blazers
 
I don't know if there is a perfect answer to this situation but so far the only ideas that have been floated have been bad ones.
 
I am glad it's going to be discussed out in the open. I don't want to go to war again, but at least this is the way to do it. Let the congress do what they were suppose to have the authority to do, but which has been chipped away at, presidency after presidency.

There was much, much more debate going into the Iraq War, and overwhelming approval from both sides of Congress.
 
Its weird we take over the country of Iraq because we thought they had WMD then a different country actually uses them and we aren't sure if we should do anything about it. Maybe it was all about the oil.

Even more weird that we have zero combat troops left in Iraq. An airbase there would be nice right about now to make Syria think twice, but no, we pulled out of all of our bases, and AQ is now using some of them in northern Iraq.
 
McCain is a senile idiot. Obama? I'm not sure what his motives are for siding with Al Qaeda and supplying them arms.

Gotta keep the contractors in business... if there were no war constantly, the US economy would collapse forever.
 
Gotta keep the contractors in business... if there were no war constantly, the US economy would collapse forever.

Well it's a good damn thing they are calling this the largest gaming generation of all time then, with Sony releasing the PS4 November 15th, Microsoft releasing the XBbox one November 22.There have never been so many consoles sold in a year or maybe there has never been so many nerds in one year. They are selling both like HOT CAKES!!
 
Its weird we take over the country of Iraq because we thought they had WMD then a different country actually uses them and we aren't sure if we should do anything about it. Maybe it was all about the oil.

Go read a couple dozen long articles detailing the history in Iraq before you make any more posts about it.
 
I am so against US doing this again. But the fact the President AND congress thinks it is the appropriate action, makes me change my position a little on all this. I'm sure this is a incredibly complex issue with multi-layer of potential actions on both a national and global scale. Damn, I hate war and hate the fact the US is going at this alone.

Not sure why the President and Congress think this is a good idea, but I stand behind my country!

Why?

Why do you presume the collective known as Congress is any smarter than you?
 
I am glad it's going to be discussed out in the open. I don't want to go to war again, but at least this is the way to do it. Let the congress do what they were suppose to have the authority to do, but which has been chipped away at, presidency after presidency.

The Iraq war resolution was debated in the House and Senate and passed both by wide margins.

FWIW
 
I don't know if there is a perfect answer to this situation but so far the only ideas that have been floated have been bad ones.

Can we just send in a bunch of community organizers to fix everything?
 
I don't think so :)


Well I deleted the post because I didn't want to get into a big debate about that . . .I got work to do. :)

But yes, I know everyone on here has all the answers to our nations complex issues. My suggestion is all these knowledgeable people should run for congress . . . Yeah that's what I thought.

Back to work . . .
 
Well I deleted the post because I didn't want to get into a big debate about that . . .I got work to do. :)

But yes, I know everyone on here has all the answers to our nations complex issues. My suggestion is all these knowledgeable people should run for congress . . . Yeah that's what I thought.

Back to work . . .

They're mostly lawyers, not foreign policy and military experts. That's for starters.

Their work product speaks volumes about their abilities.
 

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