Serge Ibaka extends with OKC - 4 Years 48 mil

[ironcrotch]

I think they got a good deal, he could have easily gotten a lot more money had he waited. On the other hand, this is a contract extension done the right way, not like the other one that happened during the summer.

Oklahoma City forward Serge Ibaka has reached agreement on a four-year, $40-million plus contract extension, league sources told Yahoo! Sports.
Ibaka, 22, could’ve been a restricted free agent next summer, and his deal now locks into place three of the Thunder’s core young stars --- Kevin Durant, Russell Westbrook and Ibaka. Durant and Westbrook each have the maximum contracts allowed under the NBA's collective bargaining agreement.

http://sports.yahoo.com/news/nba--s...n-four-year-extension-with-oklahoma-city.html

 

[drexlersdad]

harden is next, or maybe they deal him for a post scorer

 

[e_blazer]

harden is next, or maybe they deal him for a post scorer

I don't see how they can extend Harden for what he'll demand. They're right around the luxury tax threshold right now.

 

[drexlersdad]

I don't see how they can extend Harden for what he'll demand. They're right around the luxury tax threshold right now.

durant + westbrook +ibaka + harden at 13 million + perkins = 66 million next year, its true

they will figure it out though, it seems like they always do

 

[e_blazer]

I think they'll figure it out by trading Harden for a younger player on a rookie deal or for something that brings them a good draft pick.

 

[Rhal]

I think they'll figure it out by trading Harden for a younger player on a rookie deal or for something that brings them a good draft pick.

trade westbrook for rondo and sullinger give harden max

 

[huevonkiller]

I would trade Westbrook and Ibaka for a real star. Serge doesn't seem like a great defender, more like a great blocker.

Harden is the kind of player that fits into any offense.

 

[dviss1]

Perkins is as good as gone. Also, Have any of you thought that Harden likes his team, his situation, his role and would take less money to stay? That just might happen.

 

[Rhal]

Perkins is as good as gone. Also, Have any of you thought that Harden likes his team, his situation, his role and would take less money to stay? That just might happen.

Doubt it. He has gone on record saying he wouldn't mind playing for the suns.
I agree with Perkins being gone unless they have another trip to the finals

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[Nikolokolus]

Perkins is as good as gone. Also, Have any of you thought that Harden likes his team, his situation, his role and would take less money to stay? That just might happen.

I guess anything is possible, but that seems like a pretty big longshot. In a perfect world, he might like to stay on a winning team like OKC and make max money to be a Manu Ginobli clone, but if it turns into an "or" situation between the role or the money, then the money is the thing.

 

[Boob-No-More]

Nice to see the Blazers aren't the only ones overpaying for role players under the new CBA. And make no mistake about it, that's what Ibaka is - a role player. The guy averages 9.1 pts/g and 7.5 reb/g and he gets a $50 million contract (latest word is it's $49 million guaranteed, and up to $51.5 million with incentives). He blocks a lot of shots, but that's really all he does. He can't guard bigger (either taller, or stronger) players in the post. Aldridge destroys him head-to-head. So, OKC has to put Perkins on Aldridge. That worked fine when Ibaka got to guard Camby or Joel, but in the last game against OKC, Hickson lit up Ibaka for 21 points on 9 - 10 shooting.

As mentioned above, resigning Harden will likely mean OKC will be at the luxury tax threshold with just their top five players in 2013-14 when Ibaka's and Harden's extensions would kick in. And the luxury tax penalties are MUCH higher under the new CBA. $10 million over the threshold = $2.50 for every $1.00 over. $15 million over = $3.25 penalty for every $1.00 over. Given that they will have another 10 roster spots to fill, extending both Harden and Ibaka could end up costing Clay Bennett and Aubrey McClendon nearly $200 million in luxury tax penalties over the 4 year length of those contract extensions. Personally, I'm all for anything that hits Bennett and McClendon in the wallet.

Of course, they can always save some money by dumping other players (like Perkins and Sefalosha), but that could weaken them on the court (at least on the defensive end) as they try to find cheap replacements for those guys.

BNM

 

[THE HCP]

Can't wait til these big penalties kick in!

 

[dviss1]

Would any of you see it as a good idea for us to Offer Harden Max $$ next offseason?

I know PHX and others will have cash too.

 

[ehizzy3]

yes i would.

lillard
harden
batum
aldridge
leonard

thats pretty dope

 

[Mediocre Man]

Wait, when did we get enough room to offer anyone a max deal next season?

 

[craigehlo]

Wait, when did we get enough room to offer anyone a max deal next season?

I think we would need to trade Matthews with no salary coming back and not extend a few players like Babbit and Elliot.

 

[craigehlo]

The Thunder will likely find a taker for Perkins' crappy contract before they let Harden walk.

 

[Boob-No-More]

The Thunder will likely find a taker for Perkins' crappy contract before they let Harden walk.

Problem is, in today's economic climate, they'd have to also give up something of value for anyone to take on Perkins' undesirable contract. In order to dump Perkins, and not take back a similarly hideous contract, they'd need to either give up a young prospect, or two (Perry Jones, Reggie Jackson), a proven, but cheap player (Eric Maynor, Nick Collison), and or future first round draft picks.

So, anyway you look at it, overpaying for Ibaka, and extending Harden will hurt them in some way.

BNM

 

[e_blazer]

Wait, when did we get enough room to offer anyone a max deal next season?

According to Storyteller's site, the Blazers are currently committed to $44.5M in contracts for next year. Jeffries' and Pavlovic's contracts aren't fully guaranteed. Hickson is on a one year deal so his money comes off the books. There are team options on Babbitt, EWill and Nolan Smith.

 

[The_Lillard_King]

Problem is, in today's economic climate, they'd have to also give up something of value for anyone to take on Perkins' undesirable contract. In order to dump Perkins, and not take back a similarly hideous contract, they'd need to either give up a young prospect, or two (Perry Jones, Reggie Jackson), a proven, but cheap player (Eric Maynor, Nick Collison), and or future first round draft picks.

So, anyway you look at it, overpaying for Ibaka, and extending Harden will hurt them in some way.

BNM

Would you rather have Batum or Ibaka? Seems like both are being paid roughly similar money based on their potential.

 

[SlyPokerDog]

Would you rather have Batum or Ibaka? Seems like both are being paid roughly similar money based on their potential.

Toss up.

Ibaka is the safer bet but Batum has the potential for a greater payoff.

 

[Rhal]

Would you rather have Batum or Ibaka? Seems like both are being paid roughly similar money based on their potential.

They are both role players but Batum has the chance to develop (I doubt he ever would) into a perennial all-star while Ilbaka is an undersized PF destined to be a career Role-player. Also its much much harder to get an elite wing (which again Batum isn't but could be) while good PF are really not hard to come by.

 

[RoyToy]

Ibaka is better than Batum right now.

 

[Denny Crane]

They are both role players but Batum has the chance to develop (I doubt he ever would) into a perennial all-star while Ilbaka is an undersized PF destined to be a career Role-player. Also its much much harder to get an elite wing (which again Batum isn't but could be) while good PF are really not hard to come by.

One was a key player on a team that made the finals.

Ibaka is better than Batum right now.

This.

 

[Rhal]

One was a key player on a team that made the finals.



This.

I'm not saying Batum is better, i'm saying he could be better. Ilbaka is better at the moment but he also plays at a position with a glut of great talent and I personally don't think he is going to improve much more then what he is now. He is a great help defender and a hustle player but very ineffective offensively, I think thats what he is going to be for the rest of his career.
I'd rather have Batum and shoot for the sky because without hitting a the jackpot and getting the #1 pick next year we need multiple people not just Lillard to step up and challenge LA to be the best player on the Blazers otherwise we aren't going anywhere anytime soon.

 

[The_Lillard_King]

One was a key player on a team that made the finals.

Rose and Westbrook get about the same money . . . difference is one was a key player on a team that made the finals. Westbrook more valuable than Rose?

 

[Denny Crane]

Rose and Westbrook get about the same money . . . difference is one was a key player on a team that made the finals. Westbrook more valuable than Rose?

May well be.

 

[jlprk]

If Batum has more potential than Ibaka, that's a sad condemnation of our coaching, since Batum has had 4 years (PER 15.4) and Ibaka only 3 years (PER 17.5). A 3-year player should have more potential than a 4-year one. Batum has played 25% more career minutes.

 

[Masbee]

No cause its a waste of time.

We aren't getting Harden.

This has been discussed several times before and I don't want to rehash out again.

 

[Boob-No-More]

Would you rather have Batum or Ibaka? Seems like both are being paid roughly similar money based on their potential.

Depends on what you need. Ibaka is very limited offensively. He blocks a lot of shots, but he struggles defending taller/stronger players in the post (Aldridge absolutely destroyed him, forcing OKC to put Perkins on Aldridge). He's an average rebounder for his position. Definitely a role player, but with all the other scorers OKC has, he fills a role nicely for them. OKC overpaid to extend him, but we also overpaid (but not by as much) to retain Batum. Batum is a better, more versatile scorer and is somewhat good at most things, but not great (yet) at any one particular thing.

It will be interesting to see how both players develop. Can Ibaka develop a decent low post game (doubtful due to being undersized), can he become a better low post defender (not JUST a shot blocker)? Right now he's a one trick pony, but very good at that one trick. Can Batum ever realize his potential and become the great all-around player we all want him to be? Hard to say. He shows flashes of brilliance, then disappears for three game in a row. Hopefully, with an expanded role, a new offensive scheme and new coaching staff, he can develop into a more versatile, better all around player.

Only time will tell. They are both overpaid, but Ibaka's contract hurts OKC more than Batum's contract hurts Portland - at least in the short term. Hopefully, Lillard and Leonard develop into the kind of players worthy of large contracts and then we have the same problem OKC is facing now - HUGE luxury tax payments. The difference is we have an owner that can afford those payments.

BNM