Sergio Needs to Go.

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We need to start start Bayless at the 2, brandon at the 3 one of these days :D
 
Hey, at least I didn't say he needed to be executed.

Trading him will be just fine, thank you.

You didn't say anything. You made a simplistic and contrary statement and gave no reason. *edited: No personal attacks* Have fun with that.
 
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Out of curiosity, Hank, is it a "Sergio isn't good for us and needs to go", or a "Sergio needs to be free, and go somewhere like GSW or NYK to be loved"?
 
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You're kidding, right?
 
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I think the game of basketball is a little over your head.

Lets talk basketball.

Sergio - Cant shoot, Defend or finish at the Rim. Has been playing professional basketball for over 5 years.

Bayless - Good Defender, Excellent finisher and can shoot. Has been playing professional basketball for 2 months.

Which one of us needs to read Basketball for Dummies?
 
Out of curiosity, Hank, is it a "Sergio isn't good for us and needs to go", or a "Sergio needs to be free, and go somewhere like GSW or NYK to be loved"?

Both.

He doesnt fit our system and never will with Nate here. I dont really care where he goes as I am a Blazer fan and not a fan of Sergio or really any individual player.
 
Sergio has been playing professional basketball for over 5 years.

Bayless - Has been playing professional basketball for 2 months.

I wonder if this is a reasonable comparison. Do we consider European play to be the equivalent of the NBA? I don't think so. Europe has numerous good players -- but not great. In a sense, US College ball is better than European ball because superstars play in the US (for at least a year) before moving on. The European system does not cultivate stars in the same way.

Clearly Sergio and Rudy benefited from European ball in that they do not seem even slightly fazed by playing in the NBA. But there are a LOT more in terms of adjustments in the game between Europe and the NBA, than there are from NCAA to the NBA.

Perhaps HTD is suggesting that in terms of *potential*, playing European ball is the same as NBA development. But I think this would also be inaccurate. From Petrovic to Stojakovic (with many others), there was a significant adjustment to the NBA game -- Drazen was 24 years old as a rookie, and hit his stride his third season.

So I think HTD is incorrect to take number of years playing "professional" ball as indicative of future performance expectations.

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I don't think Sergio has done anything to warrant a "Sergio needs to go" thread, tbh. He has been playing very well for us this year and is going to be a nice backup PG. HE is an assist machine.
 
Hey he is shooting .353 from 3 point land this year, which is almost respectable. It's his 2 point percentage that needs work.
 
I don't think Sergio has done anything to warrant a "Sergio needs to go" thread, tbh. He has been playing very well for us this year and is going to be a nice backup PG. HE is an assist machine.

30% shooting. Zero Defense.

We can certainly do better than that.

The fact that he speaks spanish and tucks Rudy into bed at night should not really be taken into consideration.
 
Man, I was expecting some "Sergio needs to G.O." ie Sergio needs more minutes with Oden to take advantage of the pick and roll.
 
Sergio is playing better this year than before - there is no doubt about it - but there is also no doubt that he needs to continue working on a lot of stuff to become a fixture on the team.

1. Make the damn layups. The kid can get anywhere he wants on the court with the dribble and them brick a layup. It is really frustrating and can really bog the offense down since the other team will just let him brick them and cover his pass targets.

2. Work on the entry passes to GO. That's pretty much for the entire team - but if either him or Blake get it - it will make our offense that much more potent.

3. Continue working on the defense - he is trying to stay in front of his man a lot more this year - and that's good - but you can still see how much better Bayless is at getting to a point on defense to bump the opposing PG.

4. Need to continue working on his jump shot and let Rudy handle the ball more. Rudy is underutilized (he did make a concentrated effort to attack the rim from the dribble in the last couple of games, it worked better against the Kings than against the Clips) - and Sergio dominating the ball is a big part of it.

Summary - I do not think Sergio needs to go at this point - but this is not something that is out of the question in the future if he does not show progress on these obvious flaws in his game.
 
I think Sergio is doing fine right now, but if the Blazers don't want him trade him to the Grizzlies. :D
 
LOL! Come on Maris, you are a very knowledgable poster. Bayless' sample size is tiny. But rest assured, he is a better 3 point shooter and most likely a better FT shooter. STeals wise, Sergio may be better, but he gambles more, while Bayless is a better defender.

TBH, Sergio is better at setting up an offense, court vision, passing and maybe steals? But other than that, I think Bayless has him on most other things. Bayless is also very versitile.

But Sergio is a better PG, which is why he SHOULD be ahead of Jerryd. HE has done very well this season.

I still think Jerryd and BRandon = absolute win. But he will get his turn. Sergio had to wait his turn, and this is his time. He is taking adv. of it and i'm loving it. I'm in both the Sergio and Bayless camp.
 
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Stats say Sergio is better at just about everything than Bayless, 3pt, FT, STL, AST, AST/TO:

http://www.nba.com/blazers/stats/

Bayless is shooting .368 BTW.


Hey, isn't it amazing that when you get playing time, you get more stats than a guy who has only got garbage time in 3 games? It's just astounding the stats you can put up when you aren't in the game, ever.
 
He's no worse defensively than Blake, and I'd say Blake has been much worse at defense than Sergio this year. In fact, watching his terrible performances against opposing PG's, I think Blake is one of the worst defensive players in the NBA.

The difference is that Blake gets torched by STARTING caliber NBA PG's.. Sergio gets torched by other teams scrubs.

Blake > Sergio at just about everything except throwing fancy lob passes to Rudy.
 
I used to be one the most vocal critics of El Chacho (and let's be honest he deserved the criticism last year) but he apparently worked his ass off over the summer and got his head screwed on straight so I have to say I've been pretty pleasantly surprised with Sergio's play: His free throw percentage is much better, his A/T ratio is much improved, and his defense has gone from dreadful to passable, and now he's at least a credible threat to hit the long ball when he has his feet set. I still don't think he's starter material, but as far as backups go I think he's been peachy.

This is not to say that he should or shouldn't be traded, but whatever happens he's proved that he's at least capable of being contributor to an NBA team and he has actual trade value now -- win-win for the Blazers either way.
 
The difference is that Blake gets torched by STARTING caliber NBA PG's.. Sergio gets torched by other teams scrubs.

Blake > Sergio at just about everything except throwing fancy lob passes to Rudy.

Sergio is a better passer and has better court vision, but yeah Blake is better at scoring the ball. What position do they play again?

And Your first arguement isn't valid since Sergio plays against starters pretty much every game, as is the case with pretty much every rotation player in the NBA.
 
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