Serious Question For Trump Supporters

[Jade Falcon]

Hmm. To me, poorly educated suggests little, or bad, education, whereas uneducated suggests no education. Neither implies stupidity.

barfo

I suppose that's one way of looking at it.

But if that's your reasoning, then I would rather it be suggested that I had a poor education....rather than no education at all.

But this is besides the point. Liberals and Democrats don't say these things as forms of endearment. They are implying that average Americans are stupid, and that they know what's best for them, simply because they went to Harvard. And furthermore, that some Liberal Democrat in San Francisco or New York knows what's best for a small farming community in Nebraska.

 

[barfo]

The problem is, you'll have two people, one whose not gone to college, but owns their own business and is making 6 or 7 figures with no college debt. And another whose gone to college and got a degree in liberal arts whose now paying back college debt making minimum wage at McDonalds.

Liberals will lump the college "educated" person in with their "smart person" label bucket, and outcast the non-college educated person.

Sure, you wouldn't be doing exactly what you are complaining about, would you? Stereotyping?

Sure, there are successful non-college educated people, and unsuccessful college educated people.

Just like there are liberals who stereotype, and liberals who don't.

There are conservatives who stereotype, and conservatives who don't.

barfo

 

[blue32]

Sure, you wouldn't be doing exactly what you are complaining about, would you? Stereotyping?

Sure, there are successful non-college educated people, and unsuccessful college educated people.

Just like there are liberals who stereotype, and liberals who don't.

There are conservatives who stereotype, and conservatives who don't.

barfo

Me? I am not labeling anyone. More often than not, in countless discussions just like in this thread from a poster here, the Liberals are the ones that are handing out the comparison/labels of the education compare/contrast w/voting Dem or Repub. It's obvious in all their talking points they are saying "if you are smart you vote Democratic, if you are dumb you vote Republican". That is the gist.

 

[barfo]

I suppose that's one way of looking at it.

But if that's your reasoning, then I would rather it be suggested that I had a poor education....rather than no education at all.

Sure, that makes sense.

But this is besides the point. Liberals and Democrats don't say these things as forms of endearment. They are implying that average Americans are stupid, and that they know what's best for them, simply because they went to Harvard. And furthermore, that some Liberal Democrat in San Francisco or New York knows what's best for a small farming community in Nebraska.

Hmm, ok, I'm not really sure about what use of 'uneducated' we are really talking about here, but I think it was being used as shorthand for 'non-college educated' voters favoring Trump? Maybe the shorthand is an insult, although maybe you are reading too much into it.

barfo

 

[Jade Falcon]

Sure, that makes sense.



Hmm, ok, I'm not really sure about what use of 'uneducated' we are really talking about here, but I think it was being used as shorthand for 'non-college educated' voters favoring Trump? Maybe the shorthand is an insult, although maybe you are reading too much into it.

barfo

With the current crop of Online Liberals and SJWs that have taken over the Democratic Party, I'm inclined to believe that it's an insult.

 

[Denny Crane]

How about "poorly educated"? Is that one ok? Or is that only used by elitists also?

Because I heard Trump say that one... and Trump surely couldn't be an elitist, could he?

barfo

Poorly educated would be public school grads.

That's on you.

They're citizens and their votes count as much as yours.

 

[magnifier661]

Bill Gates quit college after 2 years. What a moron.

I believe Steve Jobs quit as well

 

[Denny Crane]

I believe Steve Jobs quit as well

Poorly educated.
-- barfo

 

[Stevenson]

Poorly educated would be public school grads.

Did I miss something? That's not really what you think is it?

I went to public high school and a public university - UCLA. I don't think that makes me poorly educated. I venture to say most people here went to public schools and got a very good education.

 

[Denny Crane]

Did I miss something? That's not really what you think is it?

I went to public high school and a public university - UCLA. I don't think that makes me poorly educated. I venture to say most people here went to public schools and got a very good education.

barfo wants to make something about poorly educated voters.

Public schools work for many. You're lucky not to be black and from an inner city school district.

The schools in chicago looked like prisons. Barbed wire on the fences, iron bars on the windows, windows boarded over, metal detectors to get in, and general disrepair. Those kids don't go to UCLA, unless they're world class athletes.

And then there's HuffPost's view:

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/03/22/top-reading_n_1373680.html

American High School Students Are Reading Books At 5th-Grade-Appropriate Levels: Report

 

[EL PRESIDENTE]

I'm poorly educated. That explains why I missed this video of CNN faking an interview....they didn't tell the host though...hahahahahaha

cuck

 

[KeepOnRollin]

Closing threads is not how we roll.

Your regret about starting the thread are there for all to read.

Your question is a good one.

Actually there is a locked thread right now in the main Trail Blazer Forum. So it is how you all have rolled before.

And you are right, his question is a good one. So good that not a single person has answered it on what they would tell their daughter if/when she said that. Apparently not a single person in here has a daughter? I wish I did so the man could actually get his question answered.

 

[Jade Falcon]

Actually there is a locked thread right now in the main Trail Blazer Forum. So it is how you all have rolled before.

And you are right, his question is a good one. So good that not a single person has answered it on what they would tell their daughter if/when she said that. Apparently not a single person in here has a daughter? I wish I did so the man could actually get his question answered.

Then I'll make this simple:

"Honey, he's not an evil man. The media have made him out to be a demon, but he's just a normal person of flesh and blood. He's not going to hurt you, and there's nothing to be frightened of."

There. Simple.

 

[KeepOnRollin]

Then I'll make this simple:

"Honey, he's not an evil man. The media have made him out to be a demon, but he's just a normal person of flesh and blood. He's not going to hurt you, and there's nothing to be frightened of."

There. Simple.

Do you have a daughter? I don't.

I bet that is real easy for you and I to say in theory until your real actual daughter asks you that question face to face, point blank when you are least expecting it.

 

[Jade Falcon]

Do you have a daughter? I don't.

I bet that is real easy for you and I to say in theory until your real actual daughter asks you that question face to face, point blank when you are least expecting it.

I don't have any children. But make no mistake: I'd tell them exactly that, word for word.

But hey, it would be a mute point anyways, since I wouldn't be dumb enough to allow my child to watch any news in the first place. Exposing a child to that nonsense when they cannot logically think for themselves is borderline criminal.

We as adults can distinquish between hand-wringing and hysteria that the media generates. But not a child. And if your child is genuinely frightened by fucking Donald J. Trump....then you have fucked up as a parent. Change your parenting tactics.

Jesus. I don't like Hillary, but I wouldn't teach my child to fear or hate the woman.

 

[barfo]

Poorly educated.
-- Donald Trump

FTFY.

 

[KeepOnRollin]

I don't have any children. But make no mistake: I'd tell them exactly that, word for word.

But hey, it would be a mute point anyways, since I wouldn't be dumb enough to allow my child to watch any news in the first place. Exposing a child to that nonsense when they cannot logically think for themselves is borderline criminal.

We as adults can distinquish between hand-wringing and hysteria that the media generates. But not a child. And if your child is genuinely frightened by fucking Donald J. Trump....then you have fucked up as a parent. Change your parenting tactics.

Jesus. I don't like Hillary, but I wouldn't teach my child to fear or hate the woman.

I don't think we can speak for a father who has a daughter on how he should handle this situation. You need to have a daughter to understand which I can't fully. But I know people with daughters and they would handle it much different then what you stated.

But I do have boys so I am a parent and I know there is no possible way you can control their ever moment. There are many opportunities they would have outside of the home to be exposed to this news and it could have came from friends or any other "channel" besides the actual TV or newspaper even. I am just going to disagree with you on someone f'ing up in that case. Have kids then get back to me on that.

 

[MARIS61]

Went and finished the original post. I've been with my wife for 16 years in a couple of weeks and I made a conscious decision not to bring kids into this fucked up world. Do you even have a clue how many billions of people inhabit this planet?

Roughly 6 billion more than it can support.

Regardless of any feelgood measures, "green" energy, scientific advancements, global acceptance of each other or anything else you want to use to avoid the ONLY real threat to humanity.

http://www.worldometers.info/world-population/

http://www.census.gov/popclock/

 

[barfo]

Poorly educated would be public school grads.

That's on you.

They're citizens and their votes count as much as yours.

No idea what you are on about. Donald Trump said "poorly educated", not me.

I certainly didn't suggest their votes don't count. Are you just throwing stuff at the wall hoping an argument ensues?

Well, if so, you've come to the right place.

barfo

 

[TradeNurkicNow]

Exposing a child to that nonsense when they cannot logically think for themselves is borderline criminal.

Ain't no safe spaces in real life, snowflake.

 

[TradeNurkicNow]

No idea what you are on about. Donald Trump said "poorly educated", not me.

I certainly didn't suggest their votes don't count. Are you just throwing stuff at the wall hoping an argument ensues?

Well, if so, you've come to the right place.

barfo

You tend to make Denny's nonsense-o-meter go haywire

 

[Jade Falcon]

I don't think we can speak for a father who has a daughter on how he should handle this situation. You need to have a daughter to understand which I can't fully. But I know people with daughters and they would handle it much different then what you stated.

But I do have boys so I am a parent and I know there is no possible way you can control their ever moment. There are many opportunities they would have outside of the home to be exposed to this news and it could have came from friends or any other "channel" besides the actual TV or newspaper even. I am just going to disagree with you on someone f'ing up in that case. Have kids then get back to me on that.

What the fuck is wrong with you? What does it matter if it's a daughter or a son? Trump isn't some evil rapist out to kill the women of this country! Fuck, are you REALLY going to give in and let your child become a victim of media hysteria?

I may not be a parent. I'm also not a NASCAR driver.....but I can still drive.

Ain't no safe spaces in real life, snowflake.

A grown adult asking for a safe space at work or college because they're "triggered" about something is FAR different than filtering the media hysteria to your child and breaking down myth from reality.

So it seems to me like the ones you need to lecture that to is the special people who get "triggered" by stupid shit such as Donald Trump's tweets. And that's not me.

 

[Cippy91]

So what I have been reading in this is exactly the problem with society today. Trump supporters aren't gonna agree with Hillary supporters and vice versa. You just sit here and yell at each other instead of having an actual dialogue. The ironic thing is both Trump supporters and Hillary supporters are arrogant and both believe they are right. How about this. Donald and Hillary are pieces of shit. Honestly. You can take the egomaniac of Donald and immature ways he deals with things for a 70 year old and Hillary and her deleted emails and crooked politics shit and it just doesn't matter. They both suck. So why are you guys going to war over a person? I mean some people in here can have a conversation but others can't. Alt right and alt left are fucking terrible to deal with. Chill. Nobody has it right trust me, there are points on both sides but overall who the fuck cares, there are more important things in the world then some person people hold to high standards to speak and be crooked. Donald already backed off the russian hacking talk when everybody who researches knows it was leaked. Wikileaks has sources. Not hacked. Leaked from the inside. So there you see Donald has already been influenced by the real puppet masters. For the left, it's not the end of the fucking world that Donald is president, the worst thing you get is a guy who sucks for 4 years, we wont be going into nuclear war, stop that shit. No nazi germany around here, gay rights are sticking around so chill. For the right, chill out with your stupid MAGA boasting. It only makes you look childish. Combine the two and it's a never ending story like this thread.

 

[Stevenson]

HCP, the Trump supporters here are conspicuous by their silence when it comes to his repugnant, abhorrent, abberant behavior (except for Denny who will point out that Trump won, as if that somehow excuses it.)

 

[KeepOnRollin]

I may not be a parent. I'm also not a NASCAR driver.....but I can still drive.

Bad analogy. I can drive too but I can't drive in Nascar just because I know how to on the street and I don't pretend I can.

You apparently pretend you can which is your choice of course but it is mine to think you don't know what you are taking about in this area when I barely do myself.

It is all good though at some point someone who actually has had a similar conversation with their daughter will chime in.

 

[KeepOnRollin]

I was a Gary Johnson voter but if he wasn't on the ballet (or any other options besides the two meatheads) then I would have voted Trump over Hillary. But that certainly doesn't excuse what one or the other has done. I glad I don't have daughters and don't have to answer the question to them. And I feel for those who do.

 

[TradeNurkicNow]

A grown adult asking for a safe space at work or college because they're "triggered" about something is FAR different than filtering the media hysteria to your child and breaking down myth from reality.

So it seems to me like the ones you need to lecture that to is the special people who get "triggered" by stupid shit such as Donald Trump's tweets. And that's not me.

You sounded pretty triggered by the thought of your hypothetical daughter being exposed to mainstream news. Personally, I only let my hypothetical children read Breitbart. I bought my hypothetical son a "Grab America By The Pussy" shirt but my hypothetical wife was too triggered by it because she was sexually assaulted and has PTSD, but I let him wear it anyway because the hell if I'm going to let my hypothetical family get cucked by liberals and their feelings

 

[Jade Falcon]

Bad analogy. I can drive too but I can't drive in Nascar just because I know how to on the street and I don't pretend I can.

You apparently pretend you can which is your choice of course but it is mine to think you don't know what you are taking about in this area when I barely do myself.

It is all good though at some point someone who actually has had a similar conversation with their daughter will chime in.

So you asked a question, and I answered. You tried to play the emotional card with me by "what if your daughter looked you in the eyes" crap. I gave you an answer that you didn't like, so now you're dismissing it because....I'm not a parent?

Your loss, not mine.

 

[barfo]

So what I have been reading in this is exactly the problem with society today. Trump supporters aren't gonna agree with Hillary supporters and vice versa. You just sit here and yell at each other instead of having an actual dialogue. The ironic thing is both Trump supporters and Hillary supporters are arrogant and both believe they are right. How about this. Donald and Hillary are pieces of shit. Honestly. You can take the egomaniac of Donald and immature ways he deals with things for a 70 year old and Hillary and her deleted emails and crooked politics shit and it just doesn't matter. They both suck. So why are you guys going to war over a person? I mean some people in here can have a conversation but others can't. Alt right and alt left are fucking terrible to deal with. Chill. Nobody has it right trust me, there are points on both sides but overall who the fuck cares, there are more important things in the world then some person people hold to high standards to speak and be crooked. Donald already backed off the russian hacking talk when everybody who researches knows it was leaked. Wikileaks has sources. Not hacked. Leaked from the inside. So there you see Donald has already been influenced by the real puppet masters. For the left, it's not the end of the fucking world that Donald is president, the worst thing you get is a guy who sucks for 4 years, we wont be going into nuclear war, stop that shit. No nazi germany around here, gay rights are sticking around so chill. For the right, chill out with your stupid MAGA boasting. It only makes you look childish. Combine the two and it's a never ending story like this thread.

You have a strong point.

However, you need to realize that all we had was arguing with each other and since you've taken that away we'll just have to sit in our parent's basements alone and masturbate. Instead of sitting there alone masturbating while arguing on the internet like we used to do.

You've significantly reduced our quality of life. I hope you are happy now.

barfo

 

[blue32]

Why not just tell them the truth?

Sometimes people say stupid stuff that they should not have in the first place, people make mistakes and people learn from them. Done and done.