Politics Serious Question

[Phatguysrule]

On my phone all day. I'll try to go more in depth later

Yes, I came back looking for this as well...

 

[Phatguysrule]

That was requested as such as satire.

Kind of like Alex Jones is "just a performer, playing a role" when he's on trial?

 

[Phatguysrule]

This OT forum has become MSNBC. It’s like Infowars for social justice warriors. Lots of conspiracy theories and angry misguided rants.

Yes, much of it coming from you.

 

[Hoopguru]

Its sad when a person cannot have civil discussion with respect with someone they disagree with.
And its sad when a person can’t accept they could be wrong about something. We used to teach kids these two principles as its part of education.

 

[Orion Bailey]

Its sad when a person cannot have civil discussion with respect with someone they disagree with.
And its sad when a person can’t accept they could be wrong about something. We used to teach kids these two principles as its part of education.

no one wants discussion. Everyone wants war. Problem is i think society is naive to what war would look like. Seeing it on tv is not like having it in your back yard or on your front doorstep…

Weve become a spoiled society thinking violence is a better answer than what we currently have (that can be improved upon if we just communicate) and that somehow life will be better with some civil war or world war.
Cause lets get real. If we have a civil war, allies will have to choose sides and it will become a world war.
Our short term memory, fast food drive through, lifestyle has afforded us the memory loss of the times of war and how life is for a country in the midst of a civil war.
Its nuts to me that people are willing to let emotions rule and not communicate respectfully, when there is no direct threat to life at hand. But would instead not communicate, and just create that real threat instead…

 

[Chris Craig]

no one wants discussion. Everyone wants war. Problem is i think society is naive to what war would look like. Seeing it on tv is not like having it in your back yard or on your front doorstep…

Weve become a spoiled society thinking violence is a better answer than what we currently have (that can be improved upon if we just communicate) and that somehow life will be better with some civil war or world war.
Cause lets get real. If we have a civil war, allies will have to choose sides and it will become a world war.
Our short term memory, fast food drive through, lifestyle has afforded us the memory loss of the times of war and how life is for a country in the midst of a civil war.
Its nuts to me that people are willing to let emotions rule and not communicate respectfully, when there is no direct threat to life at hand. But would instead not communicate, and just create that real threat instead…

I want to communicate. I try. There is no middle ground to be had it seems with most. There is one side or the other.

The country basically is in a civil war.

But, that is what the corporations and the rich want. That's what the people in charge want. If we are at each other's throats, we can't team together to go after them and hold them accountable.

This country is more divided than I have ever seen in my life time. Doesn't seem like it will get better anytime soon.

I makes me angry. All the violence and the hate. It's hard to leave emotions out of it.

 

[calvin natt]

No more than being called a racist supporter, mysoginist, or many other things ive personally been called here by some…
Ive been made fun of and told to fuck off for just trying to have a conversation…

go call them out first please….

And this is exactly what Johnny is talking aBout.
You aRe calling el prez out for calling some little bitches. But NO ONE on the left says anything to others on the left when they portray the same condescending labelling…

Don't rail on the right for what the left also does….


S2 is spinnoff of msnbc which is no better than fox news…

With that said Lanny i HAVE seen you call others out, but you are the only one. None of your politically aligned brethren do.

There is sooo much anger in this place….

Hi my name is Calvin and I’m angry. (Hi Calvin)

You might have been called a racist supporter because you come across as supporting trump and trump is racist. It seems all the racist proud boy pussy types are Trumpers. So if you support that side you run the risk of being labeled the same. Life’s not fair is it

 

[Orion Bailey]

I want to communicate. I try. There is no middle ground to be had it seems with most. There is one side or the other.

The country basically is in a civil war.

But, that is what the corporations and the rich want. That's what the people in charge want. If we are at each other's throats, we can team together to go after them and hold them accountable.

This country is more divided than I have ever seen in my life time. Doesn't seem like it will get better anytime soon.

I makes me angry. All the violence and the hate. It's hard to leave emotions out of it.

we are nowhere close to a real civil war. And i think that's part of the problem. Most people don't really understand what a true civil war would entail. We do not live in a constant national martial law. We don't have civil militias infiltrating neighborhoods, confiscating homes and land for resources…

This idea we are in a civil war is so far from reality and i believe its because we have had it so easy for so long, we think what we have now is soooo bad and we have nooo clue how bad life can be.
Life isnt going to be easy for all, but we don't make it hard for everyone by creating a war because we haven't solved the problems of the few that struggle.

 

[calvin natt]

I want to communicate. I try. There is no middle ground to be had it seems with most. There is one side or the other.

The country basically is in a civil war.

But, that is what the corporations and the rich want. That's what the people in charge want. If we are at each other's throats, we can team together to go after them and hold them accountable.

This country is more divided than I have ever seen in my life time. Doesn't seem like it will get better anytime soon.

I makes me angry. All the violence and the hate. It's hard to leave emotions out of it.

It will not get better in our lifetimes you are correct. This is it. Thanks to the last four years. There’s no turning back while we are alive.

 

[calvin natt]

Its sad when a person cannot have civil discussion with respect with someone they disagree with.
And its sad when a person can’t accept they could be wrong about something. We used to teach kids these two principles as its part of education.

I can be wrong about what kind of defense Portland should play, what kind of trades they should make, a strategy at work, how to raise my kids, a lot of things. I’m pretty confident in my stance on Trump and what he’s done to the country. I’m pretty sure I’m spot on.

 

[Chris Craig]

we are nowhere close to a real civil war. And i think that's part of the problem. Most peolle don't really understand what a true civil war would entail. We do not live in a constant national martial law. We don't have civil militias infiltrating neighborhoods, confecTing homes and land for resources…

This idea we are in a civil war is so far from reality and i believe its because we have had it so way for so long we think what we have now is soooo bad and we have nooo clue how bad life can be.
Life isnt going to be easy for all, but we don't make it hard for everyone by creating a war because we haven't solved the problems of the few that struggle.

We are on the brink of it. A match strike away

 

[Orion Bailey]

Hi my name is Calvin and I’m angry. (Hi Calvin)

You might have been called a racist supporter because you come across as supporting trump and trump is racist. It seems all the racist proud boy pussy types are Trumpers. So if you support that side you run the risk of being labeled the same. Life’s not fair is it

calling out asshole posts as asshole posts doesn't constitute a trump supporter
But i don't expect your red eyes to see anything beyond what you have hatred for and whatever you deem associated to it in your red filled head.
Talk about tds…

not worth anymore back and forth with you.. your incapable of rational conversation without angry condescension.. epitome of society biggest problem.
Overly judgmental about every damn thing every damned day.

It cant be healthy, mentally or physically to be so angry all the time?

I mean, day in and day out its rant and rant. Regardless of whether its all trump based or over a various amount of different issues, its hate this… talk down to that… ridicule him…make fun of that…

It cant be healthy…and you aren't the only one around like this I'm mildly concerned about…

 

[Orion Bailey]

We are on the brink of it. A match strike away

because of polarizing behavior and lack of compromising communication.
Do you really want to be searching on a daily basis for food for your child?

Think it through. It does not end well. There is no outcome from war that provides something better than what we currently have.

 

[Chris Craig]

Hi my name is Calvin and I’m angry. (Hi Calvin)

You might have been called a racist supporter because you come across as supporting trump and trump is racist. It seems all the racist proud boy pussy types are Trumpers. So if you support that side you run the risk of being labeled the same. Life’s not fair is it

I'm angry too Calvin. Im upset by all of this hate and violence.

I know OB. He's a good dude. He's stuck in a tough place politically. He's a conservative. He fell for Trump's bullshit the first time around, but he doesn't support Trump anymore and what he has seen in means of the violence and Hate. In fact you and I have more in common with him in than you think.

Think of it like a venn diagram. The extremists from the left and right on either side with everyone else stuck in the middle.

 

[Phatguysrule]

It will not get better in our lifetimes you are correct. This is it. Thanks to the last four years. There’s no turning back while we are alive.

The last 4 years are what was always going to happen by allowing the Democrats and Republicans to accept bribes.

 

[calvin natt]

The last 4 years are what was always going to happen by allowing the Democrats and Republicans to accept bribes.

They’ve been taking bribes since George Washington. The country has fallen apart because of 2016-. Because one man has emboldened millions and given power to awful humans. Our entire political landscape is permanently changed.

 

[Chris Craig]

because of polarizing behavior and lack of compromising communication.
Do you really want to be searching on a daily basis for food for your child?

Think it through. It does not end well. There is no outcome from war that provides something better than what we currently have.

And I'm not advocating for it. I don't want us as a country to get there. I'm just saying we are the closest we have been since the 1st civil war.

There are alot of people out there who want it. A growing number and that shit is scary. And it's sad because we are all Americans and we are finding enemies in each other. Our true enemies don't have to destroy us because we are destroying ourselves. Then we put ourselves at risk.

Its what Russia is doing to Ukraine. Surrounding them with their best weapons and soldiers, causing destabilization from within in via stirring unrest, and then at the weakest point attacking.

 

[calvin natt]

calling out asshole posts as asshole posts doesn't constitute a trump supporter
But i don't expect your red eyes to see anything beyond what you have hatred for and whatever you deem associated to it in your red filled head.
Talk about tds…

not worth anymore back and forth with you.. your incapable of rational conversation without angry condescension.. epitome of society biggest problem.
Overly judgmental about every damn thing every damned day.

It cant be healthy, mentally or physically to be so angry all the time?

I mean, day in and day out its rant and rant. Regardless of whether its all trump based or over a various amount of different issues, its hate this… talk down to that… ridicule him…make fun of that…

It cant be healthy…and you aren't the only one around like this I'm mildly concerned about…

Ok. Your lack of self awareness is startling

 

[Hoopguru]

I can be wrong about what kind of defense Portland should play, what kind of trades they should make, a strategy at work, how to raise my kids, a lot of things. I’m pretty confident in my stance on Trump and what he’s done to the country. I’m pretty sure I’m spot on.

I agree with you on that.

 

[Phatguysrule]

They’ve been taking bribes since George Washington. The country has fallen apart because of 2016-. Because one man has emboldened millions and given power to awful humans. Our entire political landscape is permanently changed.

Yes, but now it's all coming to a head (climate change, natural resources are dwindling, opportunity for growth is no longer easy to find), and we haven't fixed it yet.

George Washington wasn't long ago in the grand scheme of things...

 

[Phatguysrule]

And I'm not advocating for it. I don't want us as a country to get there. I'm just saying we are the closest we have been since the 1st civil war.

There are alot of people out there who want it. A growing number and that shit is scary. And it's sad because we are all Americans and we are finding enemies in each other. Our true enemies don't have to destroy us because we are destroying ourselves. Then we put ourselves at risk.

Its what Russia is doing to Ukraine. Surrounding them with their best weapons and soldiers, causing destabilization from within in via stirring unrest, and then at the weakest point attacking.

It's what Russia and China are doing to us as well. That's how there is such an effort at spreading misinformation...

 

[Chris Craig]

It's what Russia and China are doing to us as well. That's how there is such an effort at spreading misinformation...

Well, I can't say we don't deserve it. We have done it to other countries for decades. It's quite ironic that it is being used and is working so well against us.

 

[Orion Bailey]

Ok. Your lack of self awareness is startling

Your only come back is basically what ive been saying to you. You aren't even aware of how polarizing and uncommunicative to someone who doesn't agree with you, you are. its more than startling. Its scary.
You try to blame me for the very thing you have been doing from day one, I've been calling you out for the whole time.

I don't post people should die on a regular basis.
Thats you.

Look in the mirror man.

 

[calvin natt]

Your only come back is basically what ive been saying to you. You aren't even aware of how polarizing and uncommunicative to someone who doesn't agree with you, you are. its more than startling. Its scary.
You try to blame me for the very thing you have been doing from day one, I've been calling you out for the whole time.

I don't post people should die on a regular basis.
Thats you.

Look in the mirror man.

Lol. Cmon I don’t want a lot of people to die. Just a select few. “A regular basis” ha. I have and always will own everything. People can hate me or think I’m crazy for hating certain people. I’m perfectly fine with any of it. I truly do not care. I’m so confident that the only people I would ever be ok with dying would make the world better. I’m over it. My patience is DONE. I have no more leeway for the bullshit and am not gonna pussyfoot around worried about saying the wrong thing. Fuck every single one of the ass kissing trump fuckers. Go play in traffic every one of them.

 

[Orion Bailey]

Lol. Cmon I don’t want a lot of people to die. Just a select few. “A regular basis” ha. I have and always will own everything. People can hate me or think I’m crazy for hating certain people. I’m perfectly fine with any of it. I truly do not care. I’m so confident that the only people I would ever be ok with dying would make the world better. I’m over it. My patience is DONE. I have no more leeway for the bullshit and am not gonna pussyfoot around worried about saying the wrong thing. Fuck every single one of the ass kissing trump fuckers. Go play in traffic every one of them.

and you are as entitled to that thought as a racist is to theirs. But don’t think for a moment your position isn't tossing fuel on a fire instead of trying to put it out.

 

[EL PRESIDENTE]

Yes, I came back looking for this as well...

I got home and I no longer cared.

 

[Phatguysrule]

I got home and I no longer cared.

It wasn't directed at you personally... Just interesting that nobody can say a time frame that was better, yet seem to support the MAGA movement.

 

[calvin natt]

and you are as entitled to that thought as a racist is to theirs. But don’t think for a moment your position isn't tossing fuel on a fire instead of trying to put it out.

The reason democrats are where they are is they fight fair. Meanwhile republicans have zero regard for anything or anyone and look where we are. I remember being in college and we studied the Old Testament. I’m not a religious person - it was required for us at my school. But the one thing I did take away from the Old Testament was an eye for an eye. It’s about time democrats and liberals manned up and started playing the game. Trump set the tone. And here we are. It’s unfortunate but we either sit by and watch Republicans - no scratch that, that party is extinct now - Maga completely fuck everything about the country forever or step in and try to stop it. It’s a long shot but time to play the game their way. Block everything. No negotiations. Enforce everything. Put people away. Fuck them up so badly they’ll be done forever.

 

[Orion Bailey]

The reason democrats are where they are is they fight fair. Meanwhile republicans have zero regard for anything or anyone and look where we are. I remember being in college and we studied the Old Testament. I’m not a religious person - it was required for us at my school. But the one thing I did take away from the Old Testament was an eye for an eye. It’s about time democrats and liberals manned up and started playing the game. Trump set the tone. And here we are. It’s unfortunate but we either sit by and watch Republicans - no scratch that, that party is extinct now - Maga completely fuck everything about the country forever or step in and try to stop it. It’s a long shot but time to play the game their way. Block everything. No negotiations. Enforce everything. Put people away. Fuck them up so badly they’ll be done forever.

okay then, you know what else you can take from the old testament?
That its a sin to work on sundays, that homosexuality is an abomination, that handling pigskin is unclean(do you like football?)

oh aNd another thing to take from the old testament is that its ooooolllld.

so are you really gonna sit here and cite the old testament as a reasoning for your behavior when that same testament demonizes many of the behaviors and lifestyles you also fight for??????

i cant take this serious. Im missing the green font right?

be careful what you wish for. Being on the losing end is gonna suck….
Just because you want a war doesn't mean you will win. the morrally correct lose in battle all the time..

 

[calvin natt]

okay then, you know what else you can take from the old testament?
That its a sin to work on sundays, that homosexuality is an abomination, that handling pigskin is unclean(do you like football?)

oh aNd another thing to take from the old testament is that its ooooolllld.

so are you really gonna sit here and cite the old testament as a reasoning for your behavior when that same testament demonizes many of the behaviors and lifestyles you also fight for??????

i cant take this serious. Im missing the green font right?

be careful what you wish for. Being on the losing end is gonna suck….
Just because you want a war doesn't mean you will win. the morrally correct lose in battle all the time..

I’m not saying I follow anything in the Bible. I’m saying that when we studied it, it was the one thing that I believed in and agreed with. The rest of it I don’t care. Went to Catholic schools and spent more time talking about the Bible than I care for. But once in a while something would be discussed that resonated. And eye for an eye was one. But yeah pigskins.