Sex scandal threatens to derail Adams

[The_Lillard_King]

....perhaps a bit of both. Actually the Adams thing bothers me a lot. I've never liked him or his mentor Vera Katz. Its not the fact that he is gay that bothers me, or that he fibbed about an embarassing sexual encounter. The coverup, which included the smearing of Ball, and giving a city job to a Mercury reporter to shut her up is what I don't like. Fibbing, might be understandable, but his other actions in covering up the scandal are a problem. Add to that the fact Breedlove may have been underage I think there is enough there that the mayor should resign.

I'm pretty sure he will resign or be impeached (do they impeach mayors?)

 

[PapaG]

I'm pretty sure he will resign or be impeached (do they impeach mayors?)

I think they recall mayors, but I will reiterate my point here wasn't that Adams had a relationship with a young man, but rather that he betrayed public trust by consistently changing his story. Nice to see Randy Leonard and the Adams' communication director find their truth compass and act on it.

 

[The_Lillard_King]

I think they recall mayors, but I will reiterate my point here wasn't that Adams had a relationship with a young man, but rather that he betrayed public trust by consistently changing his story. Nice to see Randy Leonard and the Adams' communication director find their truth compass and act on it.

I disagree. Adams downfall will be that he made out with a 17 year old boy.

 

[barfo]

I think the important question is who do we have that's better to run the city. Certainly Adams is imperfect. But so is every other potential mayor. Before we throw the bum out, shouldn't we discuss who we are going to replace him with? The cure might be worse than the disease.

barfo

 

[PapaG]

I disagree. Adams downfall will be that he made out with a 17 year old boy.

Well, that if that was your turning point, I won't argue with it other than to say I was thinking like you prior to that revelation.

 

[PapaG]

I think the important question is who do we have that's better to run the city. Certainly Adams is imperfect. But so is every other potential mayor. Before we throw the bum out, shouldn't we discuss who we are going to replace him with? The cure might be worse than the disease.

barfo

Yep, but the problem now appears to be that those in power who work with him aren't giving him the benefit of the doubt.

 

[The_Lillard_King]

I think the important question is who do we have that's better to run the city. Certainly Adams is imperfect. But so is every other potential mayor. Before we throw the bum out, shouldn't we discuss who we are going to replace him with? The cure might be worse than the disease.

barfo

I don't think there is a better option . . . and I say that as a compliment to Adams. But after reading the local stories about this whole saga, I unfortuately think that Adams can not slip out of this one (excuse the pun).

He has potential to be a great mayor (hard working, intelligent, assertive). And if somehow the investigation leads to no criminal charges brought, then he might just make it through all this. But making out with a seventeen year old boy . . . there are some prosecutors who could find that criminal.

 

[barfo]

I don't think there is a better option . . . and I say that as a compliment to Adams. But after reading the local stories about this whole saga, I unfortuately think that Adams can not slip out of this one (excuse the pun).

He has potential to be a great mayor (hard working, intelligent, assertive). And if somehow the investigation leads to no criminal charges brought, then he might just make it through all this. But making out with a seventeen year old boy . . . there are some prosecutors who could find that criminal.

There are. But jaywalking is illegal too. If Potter jaywalked, should he have been impeached?

I am not convinced that this is a crime that needs punishment.

17 year olds have sex. They like sex. They seek sex. Sex sex sex. If I remember correctly from my days as a 17 year old, sex is pretty much the major focus of life at that age.

42 year olds have sex too. They like sex. They seek sex. Sex sex sex. If I remember correctly from my days as a 42 year old, a little illicit sex is still pretty hard to resist.

As far as I can see, none of that has anything to do with governing. We shouldn't be asking our elected officials who they sleep with, anymore than they should be asking us who we sleep with.

barfo

 

[The_Lillard_King]

There are. But jaywalking is illegal too. If Potter jaywalked, should he have been impeached?

I am not convinced that this is a crime that needs punishment.

17 year olds have sex. They like sex. They seek sex. Sex sex sex. If I remember correctly from my days as a 17 year old, sex is pretty much the major focus of life at that age.

42 year olds have sex too. They like sex. They seek sex. Sex sex sex. If I remember correctly from my days as a 42 year old, a little illicit sex is still pretty hard to resist.

As far as I can see, none of that has anything to do with governing. We shouldn't be asking our elected officials who they sleep with, anymore than they should be asking us who we sleep with.

barfo

We aren't talking jaywalking here. The crime mentioned in the paper is Sex Abuse III, apparently a crime that if convicted of, makes Adams a registered sex offender. That wouldn't look good on the mayor's resume.

The question is whether kissing constitues the touching of an intimate part, is Beau's tounge an intimate part of his body. . . it's in the hands of the AG''s offie.

 

[barfo]

We aren't talking jaywalking here. The crime mentioned in the paper is Sex Abuse III, a crime that if convicted of, makes Adams a registered sex offender.

That wouldn't look good on the mayor's resume.

Certainly it wouldn't look good. But does it actually matter?

barfo

 

[The_Lillard_King]

Certainly it wouldn't look good. But does it actually matter?

barfo

Really . . . you would be OK with a mayor who has committed a sex crime and is a registered sex offender. I don't want that for Ptd.

I am jumping the gun . . . the AG's office is only investigating at this stage. But if charges are brought, I don't think Adams can survive that.

 

[barfo]

Really . . . you would be OK with a mayor who has committed a sex crime and is a registered sex offender. I don't want that for Ptd.

I am jumping the gun . . . the AG's office is only investigating at this stage. But if charges are brought, I don't think Adams can survive that.

It depends if I thought it was an actual sex crime, or merely technically a sex crime. From everything I've heard so far, this is closer to the technical than the actual. But of course I don't have all the facts (and I really hope I never do).

barfo

 

[ucatchtrout]

Yep, but the problem now appears to be that those in power who work with him aren't giving him the benefit of the doubt.

Randy Leonard did. And has for a long time. Then he finally got fed up with being lied to repeatedly. Hearing one thing from Adams himself and reading another in the paper the next day. Now he doesn't trust Adams. And neither do I.

 

[The_Lillard_King]

It depends if I thought it was an actual sex crime, or merely technically a sex crime. From everything I've heard so far, this is closer to the technical than the actual. But of course I don't have all the facts (and I really hope I never do).

barfo

Well this is where our ideas part. I think it would be terrible for the state of Oregon to have a convicted and registered sex offender as a mayor (if that is what happens).

He wouldn't even be allowed to have a myspace account . . .

 

[barfo]

Well this is where our ideas part. I think it would be terrible for the state of Oregon to have a convicted and registered sex offender as a mayor (if that is what happens).

It would certainly be bad press, if that's what you mean. But I'd bet that if he was actually convicted he'd resign or get removed.

He wouldn't even be allowed to have a myspace account . . .

Is that a requirement for mayors these days?

barfo

 

[ucatchtrout]

"I screwed up. I blew it." Mayor Sam Adams said during a City Hall news conference.

poor choice of words for the Mayor

 

[ucatchtrout]

Adams gave a job to a $55,000 dollar a year city job to a reporter who had no experience. But she was writing stories that threatened to expose his lies.

Adams hired Portland Mercury City Hall reporter Amy Ruiz to be his adviser on sustainability and strategic planning.

Ruiz, 28, acknowledged in a Jan. 15 interview that she has no experience in sustainability, planning or government.

“This town has a million and a half urban planners, and I’m not one of them,” she says.

Ruiz’s new salary—$55,000—is substantially more than she made at The Mercury.

Mayors and city commissioners frequently hire people whose enthusiasm exceeds their experience. But it was what Ruiz had done as a reporter—or more specifically, what she had not done—that brought into question Adams’ decision to hire her.

PHOTO: Former Portland Mercury reporter Amy Ruiz took a job with Adams in December.

Long after the original story died, Ruiz continued to pursue the premise that Adams and Breedlove lied.

http://wweek.com/editorial/3510/12093/

 

[AgentDrazenPetrovic]

So is Kobe going to hire you soon UCT?

 

[ucatchtrout]

actually we call him Mr. Kbobe...

 

[Денг Гордон]

This isn't that bad. My mayor got caught in a to catch a predator style sting.