SG overload, What is the plan?

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wizenheimer said:
I'm skeptical of any actual measurements from the 90's. There weren't any combines then. Where are you getting those numbers from?

and Kobe was a SG...the Lakers never tries to shoehorn Kobe into SF because they were stubbornly running with an undersized SG
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Grizzly Adams 'did' have a beard.
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bxb said:
Maybe im... slightly overreacting.. perhaps.. but as someone who caught a whole lot of Camara's games in college, at least 30.

People should be fired if were starting Camara on opening night at SF..

Like I'm a big fan of Chauncey Billups n wanna give him the benefit of the doubt.. but that will be a major strike of incompetence in my book if we actually are starting Camara opening night..

Like I havent really seen much of Chauncey's coaching but I know theres people on this forum who say they've seen enough... if we start Camara on opening night Its gonna make me wonder if those who want to vote Chauncey off the island arent on to something.

who knows tho maybe im wrong.. I'm a fan of Camara but I wouldnt think he;d be ready for that --- ya know his Dayton team was very talented last season and underperformed didnt even make the tournament, lost a lot of games to teams with less talent.. The idea of putting Brogdon or Sharpe on the bench for him is offensive to me honestly hahaha.. but I guess I have a different perspective.. I'd certainly start Thybulle over Camara too.. but idk maybe im wrong, hope I am cuz if Camara can fill that void its a major plus for the Blazers, would be a game-changer..
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check out the preseason stats of the Thompson twins or Brandon Miller - Camara's stats crushes them. Preseason isn't everything, but so far Camara has played much better than many of the top draftees, and that's against actual nba players. Of course, against pseudo-nba players, Camara did great (summer league).

I certainly respect your experience in watching so many of his games, but I'm going to assume he's ready until his play shows me he isn't (like Murray and Miller)
 
Wizard Mentor said:
check out the preseason stats of the Thompson twins or Brandon Miller - Camara's stats crushes them. Preseason isn't everything, but so far Camara has played much better than many of the top draftees, and that's against actual nba players. Of course, against pseudo-nba players, Camara did great (summer league).

I certainly respect your experience in watching so many of his games, but I'm going to assume he's ready until his play shows me he isn't (like Murray and Miller)
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Toumani Camara looks like fred flintstone trying to dribble a basketball compared to those thompson twins if u ask me, they look like guards, Camara looks much more like a heavier forward who needs a moment to gather himself before he drives in a straight line.... preseason stats dont really do it for me

If Dayton had Brandon Miller instead of Toumani Camara... They make the tournament last year.right?.. instead Camara went 2/9 n scored 6 points picked up 5 fouls in 20 minutes n they got eliminated by VCU in the conference tourney, they didnt get to 20 wins, n they turned down an NIT invite cuz they were so embarrassed they just wanted their season to end.

I mean do you really think Dayton woulda had all that trouble as they did last season in the A-10 Conference if they woulda had Brandon Miller instead of Camara? I certainly dont cuz they coulda had an inside out attack with holmes, instead camara isnt really a volume 3pt shooter, so Holmes is tasked with stretching the floor to maintain balance, when basically he can just destroy everyone in the A-10 in the paint if they Have miller to space the floor from the perimeter instead..

Idk I just think, of all the strange things ive encountered in my brief time as a blazers fan, the strangest is actually this allegiance to camara cuz idk it just seems disrespectful to some of the other players on the blazers roster.. maybe im wrong tho, hope i am. good luck to camara!
 
bxb said:
This is an excellent post.. I know the blazers are a western conference team but theres this player named Jayson Tatum on the Celtics who classically has more the skills of a dominant SF in the NBA, but in todays league feasts on PF's, with relative ease..

N for me personally I was actually an advocate back in the Tatum/Lonzo/Fox draft(2017?) of the Lakers taking Tatum at #2 over Lonzo n playing him at SG between Russell and Ingram, which regardless of what u think of that scenario is a 100x better for the lakers than what they did, with lonzo going bust quickly n tatum being historically excellent.

So i've been on these overload the backcourt with SG's types of plans tbh.. The SG's of today are more like combo guards cuz their tasked with being able to shoot off the dribble n at a bare minimum do a 1 dribble into a pullup..
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Lonzo didn’t go bust.
 
wizenheimer said:
I saw that. I also saw he didn't start those first two seasons and when he did start, in his 3rd season, when he was 20 like Sharpe is now, he started at SG.
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It’ll be a minute before Sharpe starts with this team. Clearly.
 
wizenheimer said:
I'm skeptical of any actual measurements from the 90's. There weren't any combines then. Where are you getting those numbers from?

and Kobe was a SG...the Lakers never tries to shoehorn Kobe into SF because they were stubbornly running with an undersized SG
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nobody was adding "shoe height" back then either. Kobe was 6'7" straight up. Add his kicks Kobe's over 6'8"
 
Problem with Sharpe is he’s one of those players that will disappear if not giving a prominent role. The more you give him the better he looks.

last year as reserve he would show flashes as soon as you put him in stronger role he came alive again same thing happened last game Ant sat and he had to take on bigger role and he was more aggressive.

I think it’s going to be huge mistake if he’s not a starter by mid season
 
1 Eye Jack said:
Problem with Sharpe is he’s one of those players that will disappear if not giving a prominent role. The more you give him the better he looks.

last year as reserve he would show flashes as soon as you put him in stronger role he came alive again same thing happened last game Ant sat and he had to take on bigger role and he was more aggressive.

I think it’s going to be huge mistake if he’s not a starter by mid season
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Nothing wrong with a little friendly competition to see who deserves to start. Mid-season seems like a fair amount of time to see what combo works best.
 
Reep said:
The future seems like Scoot; Sharpe; ? (JG, KK, TC , KM?); JG or future 4; DA. We are heading toward long and talented. Assuming Grant isn't the future, then TC or KM as a good size SF and then RWIII or ? at the 4 seems like a good lineup. I'm tired of little to now defense and think Scoot could make a decent 4 or 5 look like a star.
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But what about GT, YBM, CDIV at SF but CFV and FGjr at PF?
 
the question isn’t ‘is Shaedon Sharpe a SF?’

It’s ‘would sharpe’s development be hindered long term if he got minutes at small forward this season?’

I don’t think anyone wants Shaedon playing SF long term. But I’d rather play Sharpe a bit at SF this season and get maximum value in a trade for some of our short/medium term assets vs. making premature moves just to get Sharpe at SG immediately.

And as stated above, some minutes at SF early on didn’t hurt some SG legends.
 
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