Shabazz Muhammad

[blazedanugz]

For some reason my iPhone wont or me copy and paste otherwise I would add quotes and ish BUT Haynes just tweeted that shabazz and dame have a bond and have talked about playing together. Also had a "great" interview with blazers. How do you guys feel about shabazz on the Zers?

 

[santeesioux]

I would love it, don't understand all of the negativity i'm seeing on Twitter and other places. Of course i don't have insane hype for him, just a sixth man and eventual starter kind of hype.

 

[Boise Blazer]

I posted it in the draft thread:

Chris Haynes ‏@ChrisBHaynes 33s
Prospect G Shabazz Muhammad, #Blazers G Damian Lillard already have a bond, discussed possibilty of playing together http://www.csnnw.com/blog/blazers-ta...g-together-nba …

 

[Reep]

Unless he has some talents he did not show at UCLA, I would pass. If we draft him, I would imagine the Blazer Brass have a good expectation that he can still be the player hyped out of high school. If we end up with him then I will be hopeful. But, I would rather have someone else. I think he is going to slide big time in the draft.

 

[donkiez]

Will he be there at 10?

ESPN draft lotto now things he will be. Im on board if he is the best talent available to us, also hoping either Shabazz or Batum can play the 2 effectively.

 

[illmatic99]

Unless he has some talents he did not show at UCLA, I would pass. If we draft him, I would imagine the Blazer Brass have a good expectation that he can still be the player hyped out of high school. If we end up with him then I will be hopeful. But, I would rather have someone else. I think he is going to slide big time in the draft.

People used to say the same stuff about Barnes. I compared Barnes to Martell Webster before the draft last year. oops

 

[RoyToy]

One thing I like about Shabazz is he doesn't necessarily need the ball to score. People compare him to Harden, but that's just a lazy comparison because he shoots left-handed. Harden creates his offense while Shabazz doesn't. He doesn't really have that skill set at all.

Scary thing is he's not going to be bigger than everyone at the NBA level like he's been his whole life at 6-6 225, so that lack of skill set could hurt him.

Not a terrible option at 10, but I'm more interested in hearing abut trade possibilities at this point.

 

[illmatic99]

One thing I should caution Olshey about is how he shouldn't draft for need. To an extent, he did exactly that last year.

 

[Fez Hammersticks]

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[Pinwheel1]

Unless he has some talents he did not show at UCLA, I would pass. .

Here is a list of current UCLA players in the NBA. I think an argument can be made that most of them had talents they did not show at UCLA under Ben Howland. Not a knock on Ben, but his system tended to be rigid. (Plus a few were 1 and done, so it was hard to gauge-like Shabazz)

Jrue Holiday, Jason Kapano, Earl Watson, Matt Barnes, Darren Collison, Jordan Farmar, Ryan Hollins, Dan Gadzuric, Luc Richard Mbah a Moute, Trevor Ariza, Kevin Love, Baron Davis, Arron Afflalo, and Russell Westbrook.

 

[BBert]

For some reason my iPhone wont or me copy and paste otherwise I would add quotes and ish BUT Haynes just tweeted that shabazz and dame have a bond and have talked about playing together. Also had a "great" interview with blazers. How do you guys feel about shabazz on the Zers?

Yeah I read that. They "have a bond" LOL. I personally don't have a "bond" with every individual I've spoken to for 30 minutes, but whatever.

 

[Rastapopoulos]

Everybody who writes about him says that he is a scorer who barely acknowledges he has teammates and plays very indifferent defense. What's not to love?

 

[Fez Hammersticks]

Everybody who writes about him says that he is a scorer who barely acknowledges he has teammates and plays very indifferent defense. What's not to love?

Seems like most scouting reports make him sound like the second coming of Ricky Davis.

 

[Wizard Mentor]

Everybody who writes about him says that he is a scorer who barely acknowledges he has teammates and plays very indifferent defense. What's not to love?

Perhaps, but that's not what he showed at the combine, quite the opposition.

I would feel fine about us drafting him, but the backlash would be entertaining/stupid:
"Blazers draft player with Tourette's in the lottery!"

In case you didn't know:
http://dailybruin.com/2013/03/01/no...rder-in-becoming-one-of-nations-best-players/

 

[Fez Hammersticks]

This guru: http://hoopsanalyst.com/ hates his game.

 

[Wizard Mentor]

This guru: http://hoopsanalyst.com/ hates his game.

His assist number are shockingly low.

 

[Rastapopoulos]

Perhaps, but that's not what he showed at the combine, quite the opposition.

Hmm: let's look at the scales: on one side, his entire career up to this point. On the other, what he shows at a single showcase where he is trying to overcome a bad rap. I don't think those scales are level.

I would feel fine about us drafting him, but the backlash would be entertaining/stupid:
"Blazers draft player with Tourette's in the lottery!"

Nobody remembers Chris Jackson/Mahmoud Abdul-Rauf?

 

[Fez Hammersticks]

Chad Ford has now moved Saric ahead of 'Bazz in his SF rankings.

 

[Rastapopoulos]

This guru: http://hoopsanalyst.com/ hates his game.

That guy calls Carter-Williams "dominant defensively". If that's true, then I want THAT guy. But that's not what I've read elsewhere.

 

[maxiep]

For some reason my iPhone wont or me copy and paste otherwise I would add quotes and ish BUT Haynes just tweeted that shabazz and dame have a bond and have talked about playing together. Also had a "great" interview with blazers. How do you guys feel about shabazz on the Zers?

I'd love him at #10, but I don't think he's dropping that far.

 

[BlazerWookee]

For some reason my iPhone wont or me copy and paste otherwise I would add quotes and ish BUT Haynes just tweeted that shabazz and dame have a bond and have talked about playing together. Also had a "great" interview with blazers. How do you guys feel about shabazz on the Zers?

Not overly for or against him in particular. I am, however, vehemently opposed to people calling my team "the Zers..."

 

[Reep]

I am, however, vehemently opposed to people calling my team "the Zers..."

Agreed

 

[blazedanugz]

Not overly for or against him in particular. I am, however, vehemently opposed to people calling my team "the Zers..."

sorry I forgot how much people like to nitpick in this forum. how would you like shabazz on THE BLAZERS?

carry on the discussion please.

 

[Blazer4ever]

We could do worse than Shabazz at 10. If his APG weren't so terribly low he wouldn't be available anyway.
Also, about the Harrison Barnes - Martel Webster comparison: I like this comparison and thought about it also. Despite all the recent hype about Barnes in this forum I still see him as not much better than Webster and (back on topic...) I think Shabazz is better than both.

 

[BlazerWookee]

sorry I forgot how much people like to nitpick in this forum. how would you like shabazz on THE BLAZERS?

carry on the discussion please.

Heheheheheh! :^P

 

[Pinwheel1]

Hmm: let's look at the scales: on one side, his entire career up to this point. On the other, what he shows at a single showcase where he is trying to overcome a bad rap. I don't think those scales are level.

By entire career are you talking about just his 5 months at UCLA? Because that is the only negative part of the scale I am seeing. Not that HS is much to go on. But none-the-less he did dominate despite being a "whole year" older.

I say we start tweeting he has a drug habit. That, his tourettes, his APG, and his blatant snub
of his teammate after a winning basket could move his down to 10. I am feeling better about this pick.

 

[RR7]

It's funny how, 3 years ago or so, Barnes was the next big thing. There was talk of teams tanking for him early on(before college), and fans rebuilding teams by saying trade away X, tank this season for Barnes. He didn't show much in college, stayed an extra year, and we could have had him if we wanted him, ultimately going 7th. Shabazz had roughly the same story going. Next big thing. Game will translate better than Barnes, was told. Fans start saying trade X for picks, tank for Shabazz. Now, we have an outside shot if we want him of being able to maybe get him at 10.

Makes me wonder about the trade Aldridge, tank for Wiggins scenarios.

 

[RR7]

I do like Shabazz at 10, though I am strongly in the trade the pick camp. I think there have been enough high caliber players lately to come out of UCLA, and show MUCH better in the pros than they did under Howland for me to not quit on Shabazz because of his time there.

 

[Rastapopoulos]

Harrison Barnes is not that great. He's looking good in the playoffs because he's being ignored while Curry gets triple-teamed. It's the Trevor Ariza effect.

 

[Rastapopoulos]

Chad Ford has now moved Saric ahead of 'Bazz in his SF rankings.

I thought one was a PF and the other was a SG...