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sheed30 said:
Yes due to their locker room presence, nothing to do with them on the court and then taking away from Lebron which is what we are talking about here.

Lebron was the man on the that team from day 1 regardless who he was on the court with.

Ant, Grant and Ayton are not locker room problems so difference in what we are discussing.

boozer was suppose to resign with them and gave them his word then turned around and signed with the Jazz and left the Cavs fuming.
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So pretty much exactly what I originally said.

Though, I was wrong about the salary differences offered to Boozer. For some reason I had thought the Cavs could have made the difference up to Boozer somehow, but that doesn't appear to be the case.

Thanks for confirming the rest!
 
IIRC....didn't the NBA change the CBA in a reaction to the Boozer situation?

and that reminds me, didn't Blazer situations cause two changes in the CBA? one was the loophole signing of Chris Dudley that the NBA tried to void but an arbiter said was legal.

the other was the Darius Miles signing by Memphis that put Miles back on the Blazer cap, wiping out some of KP's big cap-space plans (career-ending injury waiver?). If I'm remembering correctly, the pre-season games Miles played counted toward the total games and that's what aced the Blazers out of the cap-space
 
cdub503 said:
how the fuck have we gone three pages about carlos boozer and lebron and what supposedly was said and or happened in 2003 in a sharpe injury thread....?
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It's a comparison to developing young players. How sometimes having certain vets can be counterproductive to the development of said young players.
 
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cdub503 said:
how the fuck have we gone three pages about carlos boozer and lebron and what supposedly was said and or happened in 2003 in a sharpe injury thread....?
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have you ever been in a conversation with 20 people at a party? How often does that discussion stay on the original topic?

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Phatguysrule said:
It's a comparison to developing young players. How sometimes having certain vets can be counterproductive to the development of said young players.
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Boozer wasn’t a “vet.” He was drafted the year before LeBron. Losing Boozer was a setback in LeBron’s career. Not a positive.
 
Phatguysrule said:
And then he left the Cavs for less money after the Cavs drafted Lebron and after Boozer had played a full season with him.

And no, I would expect a good teammate would probably say something more like "Young fella is killing it! We'd be excited to get a guy like that who can play any position on the court".

Do you expect Scoot or Sharpe to talk shit about Flagg this season? I'd personally be disappointed if they did.

*Edit* Now, this isn't to say any of these guys are bad guys. Just that you have to get guys who are on the same page if you want to build a successful team. Regardless of how good the guys you are drafting are.
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In 2003, no one thought LeBron could play every position on the court lol.
 
KingSpeed said:
Boozer wasn’t a “vet.” He was drafted the year before LeBron. Losing Boozer was a setback in LeBron’s career. Not a positive.
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Ricky Davis was a vet. So was Miles. So were other guys. Grow up.
 
KingSpeed said:
Sarcasm? You said “Ricky Davis and Carlos Boozer weren't any good.” So are you now saying Ricky Davis was an All NBA player too? You can’t have it both ways. Either you meant it, in which case you’re an idiot or you were sarcastic yet still an idiot.
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Both Ricky Davis and Carlos Boozer were good. Obviously.
 
Bingo Bango said:
Karma, baby. The Blazers threw games to draft this guy, which you should never do. Don’t mess with karma. Do the right thing. Here endeth the lesson.
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You mean like Cleveland tanking for LeBron karma, or T-wolves tanking for Ant, or Spurs tanking for Wemby or (insert every high draft pick since 1990’s).
 
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