Shaedon Sharpe MRI Update

[BonesJones]

This was the rotation I came up with. I think it's reasonable we can find 10ish minutes for him.

PG - Dame (32) Ant (16)
SG - Ant (18) GP2 (25) Hart (5)
Hart (25) Little (13) Sharpe (10)
Grant (32) Little (5) Winslow (11)
Nurk (28) Watford/Eubanks (20)

Dame 32 minutes (PG)
Ant 34 minutes (SG/PG)
Hart 30 minutes (SF/SG)
Grant 32 minutes (PF)
Nurk 28 minutes (C)
GP2 25 minutes (SG)
Little 18 minutes (SF/PF)
Winslow 11 minutes (PF)
Sharpe 10 minutes (SF)
Watford/Eubanks 20 minutes (C) depending on the team we're facing.

Playing Ant more than Dame? I think you have to play Dame at least 35mpg. Nas at 18 feels low. Really hard to work it out unless Nas plays more 4 or Sharpe sits.

 

[STOMP]

If thats the case, it makes this year harder to watch. Part of the whole pull of this year is watching Sharpe progress. We aren't contenders without Sharpe exploding onto the scene. We need that pick to hit.

I know, I know. Its just one year. I'm not expecting him to be Kobe.

Shaedon duplicating Kobe's rookie year would have him averaging 15 MPG and almost 8 points a game. While I'd be very happy with that sort of start to Sharpe's career, you had it right when you stated "we aren't contenders".

STOMP

 

[illmatic99]

True enough. Eubanks can be cut out of there too. These would just be averages anyway. I think it'd be fine to have players take an occasional game off to allow everyone more mpg in the games they do play.

unfortunately, removing Eubanks will do very little to add to Shaedon's PT.

Now imagine if we signed someone like OPj or Harteinstein or some minimum bigman better than Drew instead of GP2.... roster would be more balanced and there would be a clear avenue to get Sharpe consistent PT. We don't seem to care about that... anyways

 

[SlyPokerCat]

Shaedon duplicating Kobe's rookie year would have him averaging 15 MPG and almost 8 points a game. While I'd be very happy with that sort of start to Sharpe's career, you had it right when you stated "we aren't contenders".

STOMP

Haha, I didn't mean Kobe's literal rookie year. I guess I meant it more as Kobe in his prime. I agree. I would be happy with Kobe's rookie year as long as we saw glimpses of awesomeness there too

 

[Natebishop3]

The hope is that Sharpe/Walker/Nas can make Hart/Winslow redundant.

Hart/Winslow/picks for OG makes A LOT of sense to me.

 

[SlyPokerCat]

unfortunately, removing Eubanks will do very little to add to Shaedon's PT.

Now imagine if we signed someone like OPj or Harteinstein or some minimum bigman better than Drew instead of GP2.... roster would be more balanced and there would be a clear avenue to get Sharpe consistent PT. We don't seem to care about that... anyways

Ugh. I really wanted Kyle Anderson.

 

[Natebishop3]

Playing Ant more than Dame? I think you have to play Dame at least 35mpg. Nas at 18 feels low. Really hard to work it out unless Nas plays more 4 or Sharpe sits.

Here's my thought:

I want Dame to average a lower amount, but some nights he'll obviously log more than that.

I want Nas to prove that he can stay healthy and put up numbers. Start him at 18 and if he earns more, you play him more. Ultimately I want to move Hart and Winslow but I don't want to do that until some of the other guys prove that they can shoulder that load.

 

[Natebishop3]

Haha, I didn't mean Kobe's literal rookie year. I guess I meant it more as Kobe in his prime. I agree. I would be happy with Kobe's rookie year as long as we saw glimpses of awesomeness there too

Funny note: Kobe averaged 15.5 minutes per game as a rookie.

Jumped up to 26 mpg as a sophomore.

 

[PtldPlatypus]

Hart at 20mpg is nowhere near enough.

Not enough to accomplish what purpose?

Hard-capping ourselves by using the Full MLE on a guy who only plays 15mpg doesn't make much sense either.

You'll get no argument from me on that.

In all reality, there aren't enough minutes in a game for all the things we want to do. I guess maybe we should start by prioritizing the things we want to accomplish.

• Maximize a healthy Dame
• Give Ant the room to become the star shooting guard we all hope he can be
• Give Nas the room to become the star 2-way forward we all hope he can be
  
• Let Grant be the all-star PF Dame seems to think he is
• Give Nurk the time and latitude to be the star Nurk seems to think he is.
• Maximize Hart's skills/experience/trade value
• Get the most out of our big free agent signing
• Develop our uber-talented lottery pick
• Develop our diamond-in-the-rough 2nd round forward
• Develop our diamond-in-the-rough UDFA from last year
• Develop the hyper-athletic SG we picked up in the Clippers trade

Would you say those are about right in terms of order of importance? If not, how would you rearrange them?

 

[Natebishop3]

• Give Ant the room to become the star shooting guard we all hope he can be

• Give Nas the room to become the star 2-way forward we all hope he can be

• Let Grant be the all-star PF Dame seems to think he is

• Give Nurk the time and latitude to be the star Nurk seems to think he is.

 

[Predator]

Sharpe needs at least 16-20mpg MINIMUM.
I honestly don’t even care if he “earns” the minutes or not. We need to get him game reps at all costs.

The faster we figure out if we should trade (or keep) him the better.

I don’t want to go into his 3/4 season wondering “what to do with Shaedon” like we did with Ant/Nas (to a lesser extent).

And I still think they both would’ve been better off without Stotts … and would be better players today if Stotts let them actually play.

 

[Natebishop3]

Sharpe needs at least 16-20mpg MINIMUM.

Not gonna happen. Too many mouths to feed, and we're still trying to win games.

 

[BankTeller]

Sharpe needs at least 16-20mpg MINIMUM.
I honestly don’t even care if he “earns” the minutes or not. We need to get him game reps at all costs.

The faster we figure out if we should trade (or keep) him the better.

I don’t want to go into his 3/4 season wondering “what to do with Shaedon” like we did with Ant/Nas (to a lesser extent).

And I still think they both would’ve been better off without Stotts … and would be better players today if Stotts let them actually play.

I don’t think Sharpe needs those kinds of minutes right away, at least in NBA games. He should spend some time with the team and really learn what is expected of him on defense, then he should spend a good chunk of the season in the GL.

When he’s away, he can be playing 30+mpg working on his offense. I don’t even think it’s worth giving him more than 10mpg unless he’s scoring 20+ppg for a solid stretch in GL.

A Nurk injury greatly increases his chances of him coming back up to the main roster anyway.

 

[noknobs]

God is good.

Woah lets not get too carried away.

 

[julius]

It would be awesome if Sharpe was good enough to get (semi) consistent minutes this year, but I'm not sure that's doable. Not impossible, especially if he's as good as some people think he could be.

Ideally he could get some minutes here and there and totally show some flashes of what he could be, and by the end of the season see regular minutes NOT because of an injury or because the team is going no where and decided "wgaf at this point".

 

[Strenuus]

If we start Nas at the 3 that means Sharpe gets not PT, we play Hart or GPII as the backup 4, or Dame and Ant dont get enough minutes.

Nas almost has to be the backup PF to leave enough minutes at the 1-3 for Dame, Ant, Hart, GPII, and Sharpe.

Sharpe should only be coming in on blowouts so do we really need to worry about him now? Or were we talking long term and I'm a dumbass?

 

[BankTeller]

Sharpe should only be coming in on blowouts so do we really need to worry about him now? Or were we talking long term and I'm a dumbass?

That was aggressive, but I agree with this.

Is everyone against us putting him in the GL for a short stint? I’d actually like to see what he can actually do on offense in games that don’t matter to us since we didn’t get to see that in SL.

 

[Wade Garrett]

Sharpe needs at least 16-20mpg MINIMUM.
I honestly don’t even care if he “earns” the minutes or not. We need to get him game reps at all costs.

The faster we figure out if we should trade (or keep) him the better.

I don’t want to go into his 3/4 season wondering “what to do with Shaedon” like we did with Ant/Nas (to a lesser extent).

And I still think they both would’ve been better off without Stotts … and would be better players today if Stotts let them actually play.

Kid is not ready for 16-20 MINIMUM.
Hell, that alone is as busy week for him. (joking....sorta..)

 

[BBert]

The only minutes Sharpe should get are minutes he earns, and mop up duty.

 

[damianlillard]

I think it important to remember that whoever play will be the ones who have earned it. That is Billups philosophy. Stotts relied on whoever had the most experience. That isn’t Billups. Look at Watford. He earned minutes when we still had RoCo and nance. I believe when we see sharpe, it will be because he earned it

 

[Sedatedfork]

If Sharpe earns minutes, he earns minutes. But nothing gets handed to you in this league and certainly not as an unproven rookie.

 

[B-Roy]

Sharpe ain't playing rotation minutes if we're at full health. He's gonna have to earn them when injuries come, unfortunately.

 

[B-Roy]

I think it important to remember that whoever play will be the ones who have earned it. That is Billups philosophy. Stotts relied on whoever had the most experience. That isn’t Billups. Look at Watford. He earned minutes when we still had RoCo and nance. I believe when we see sharpe, it will be because he earned it

Watford earned minutes when we had injuries and there was literally no one else to play backup center.

 

[oldmangrouch]

The most important question of all: how long will they wait before announcing he is out for the year?

Seriously, I don't expect to see him play at all this season and blaming a phantom injury is the easiest excuse.

 

[Driew]

The most important question of all: how long will they wait before announcing he is out for the year?

Seriously, I don't expect to see him play at all this season and blaming a phantom injury is the easiest excuse.

You shut your whore mouth! lol

 

[SIeepwalker]

Let's just play him at the backup C !

 

[STOMP]

Sharpe needs at least 16-20mpg MINIMUM.
I honestly don’t even care if he “earns” the minutes or not. We need to get him game reps at all costs.

The faster we figure out if we should trade (or keep) him the better.

Is there any evidence that force feeding a straight from HS kid to the league speeds up their development? Much/most of his 1st year development will happen outside of of our purview where the people who actually make player personal decisions are watching. He needs to learn how to be a pro. What will and won't work against professionals in practice. What to eat. How to train... etc. How good he'll eventually be largely depends on how dedicated he is to the sport when he is outside of actual NBA games. Perhaps there are good reasons managements of teams across sports often shelter their prized young players and ignore impatient fans on message boards...

All "we" need to do is decide whether to attend games/buy the league pass.

STOMP

 

[TBpup]

This was the rotation I came up with. I think it's reasonable we can find 10ish minutes for him.

PG - Dame (32) Ant (16)
SG - Ant (18) GP2 (25) Hart (5)
Hart (25) Little (13) Sharpe (10)
Grant (32) Little (5) Winslow (11)
Nurk (28) Watford/Eubanks (20)

Dame 32 minutes (PG)
Ant 34 minutes (SG/PG)
Hart 30 minutes (SF/SG)
Grant 32 minutes (PF)
Nurk 28 minutes (C)
GP2 25 minutes (SG)
Little 18 minutes (SF/PF)
Winslow 11 minutes (PF)
Sharpe 10 minutes (SF)
Watford/Eubanks 20 minutes (C) depending on the team we're facing.

Ant more than Dame might be fun in theory, but don't see it likely playing out that way.
GP2 with a massive increase in minutes over anything he has done in his career seems unlikely as well, or more miniature lineups which hasn't worked out well.
Little needs more than 18 minutes.
That is good for Nurk, although I'm still not confident at all in Watford/Eubanks as the backups.

 

[tykendo]

We all hope Chauncey must play him at least 20 min, cause that would mean dude is for reals.

 

[Predator]

Pardon my French but I don’t give a rat fuck what he is ready for

I’ll use a football example

A lot of rookie QBs aren’t ready to play day 1; but they’re damn sure a lot better at the end of the season (or even midseason) for doing it.