Shooting at Reynolds High School

[Denny Crane]

Once upon a time they passed an amendment to remove our free right to drink alcohol. Prohibition didn't turn out very well, so they passed another amendment to repeal it.

I imagine if we somehow passed an amendment to repeal the 2nd amendment rights that it would look a lot like prohibition. Lots and lots of weapons available but on the black market. Increased violence between gangs and between gangs and the cops with no end in sight.

I posted a police weapon on the cover of a magazine. Well, that's what you'll see every cop carrying all the time. They would have to pry guns from the dead fingers of their owners. Realize what that's going to take and what it would do to us as a society.

 

[The_Lillard_King]

Once upon a time they passed an amendment to remove our free right to drink alcohol. Prohibition didn't turn out very well, so they passed another amendment to repeal it.

I imagine if we somehow passed an amendment to repeal the 2nd amendment rights that it would look a lot like prohibition. Lots and lots of weapons available but on the black market. Increased violence between gangs and between gangs and the cops with no end in sight.

I posted a police weapon on the cover of a magazine. Well, that's what you'll see every cop carrying all the time. They would have to pry guns from the dead fingers of their owners. Realize what that's going to take and what it would do to us as a society.

Don't prohibit it, strictly regulate it.

But unlike alcohol, you can't.

 

[Denny Crane]

Don't prohibit it, strictly regulate it.

But unlike alcohol, you can't.

You can't regulate. The right to bear arms shall not be infringed. Regulate == infringe.

 

[The_Lillard_King]

You can't regulate. The right to bear arms shall not be infringed. Regulate == infringe.

I agree (can't strictly regulate) . . . that is my point.

 

[BlazerCaravan]

That list includes several solo suicides, including the one in Bend, OR.

So, 60 in a year and a half is okay. Got it.

 

[BlazerCaravan]

I agree (can't strictly regulate) . . . that is my point.

If I had a time machine, I wouldn't try to kill Hitler. I'd bring the founding fathers forward to see where we are now and ask them to steep in this country for about a year before giving their opinion.

I bet Thomas Jefferson shacks up with a stripper.

 

[Denny Crane]

The focus on shooting violence is not seeing the forest because of the trees.

http://nces.ed.gov/fastfacts/display.asp?id=49

 

[HailBlazers]

The gun I showed is a SWAT team kind of weapon. I'm less scared about regular people having those than I am the police. Our police are becoming military and we're becoming more and more "occupied" over time.

Yes Sir.

Revealed: How Obama administration arms police to the teeth with battlefield weapons

 

[BlazerCaravan]

The focus on shooting violence is not seeing the forest because of the trees.

http://nces.ed.gov/fastfacts/display.asp?id=49

I will say this: most children are animals, feral and without empathy, until they're about 28. The cruelties they visit upon one another are myriad in variety and boundless in scope. Which is why maybe, just maybe, they shouldn't be allowed to augment their rash decision making and desire to hurt others in a fit of rage with the easy availability of weapons designed to kill multiple targets efficiently.

 

[BlazerCaravan]

Yes Sir.

Revealed: How Obama administration arms police to the teeth with battlefield weapons

First off... TV-Novosti is a Russian propaganda arm in English.

Secondly, what's up with the militarization of the police? No conspiracies, please... just a real opinion.

 

[Eastoff]

First off... TV-Novosti is a Russian propaganda arm in English.

Secondly, what's up with the militarization of the police? No conspiracies, please... just a real opinion.

The manufacturers want to make lots of money.

 

[jlprk]

Secondly, what's up with the militarization of the police? No conspiracies, please... just a real opinion.

It's the Bush revolution. He Israelized the U.S. His disciple Bush, Jr. carried on after his demise. Waiting in the wings is another one, Hillary Rodham Bush.

They are bored and eager for the U.S. to start tearing itself apart like a Middle Eastern country. They will wait many decades, trying to provoke us while we just yawn them off.

 

[BlazerCaravan]

The manufacturers want to make lots of money.

So just the normal "this used to only have industrial use but we've saturated the market there so let's sell it to civilians" marketing creep?

Makes some sense.

 

[BlazerCaravan]

It's the Bush revolution. He Israelized the U.S. His disciple Bush, Jr. carried on after his demise. Waiting in the wings is another one, Hillary Rodham Bush.

They are bored and eager for the U.S. to start tearing itself apart like a Middle Eastern country. They will wait many decades, trying to provoke us while we just yawn them off.

Perfectly reasonable. Thanks for avoiding crackpot theories.

 

[jlprk]

What the??

You don't think that's a crackpot theory?

I'll dress it up with better words next time.

 

[Denny Crane]

I will say this: most children are animals, feral and without empathy, until they're about 28. The cruelties they visit upon one another are myriad in variety and boundless in scope. Which is why maybe, just maybe, they shouldn't be allowed to augment their rash decision making and desire to hurt others in a fit of rage with the easy availability of weapons designed to kill multiple targets efficiently.

"Killing multiple targets" is incredibly rare. And if they want to mass kill, they'll use a gallon of gasoline and a match if they're really set on it.

 

[Sedatedfork]

I don't think they had cars in 1776, just saying. Maybe they should make driving cars a constitutional right too. The right to possess and drive cars, shall not be infringed! Then people would say, well fuck I should be able to drive my Ferrarri 160 mph any time I want or drive after I have had a night of drinking and strippers. And road head! That's totally legal man. Don't you bitches infringe on my constitutional rights! And then others would say, but look at all the bloodshed. People are driving 160 mph, when drunk, and getting road head and running over kids. Oh the humanity!

 

[Sedatedfork]

Have they released a motive yet? Was the shooter targeting the kid he killed?

Not sure yet. All I have read is that the shooter was a former student. I haven't seen anything else.

 

[SlyPokerDog]

CNN is reporting the shooter had an AR-15 and a brown paper bag filled with more than 20 fully-loaded magazines.

 

[BlazerCaravan]

CNN is reporting the shooter had an AR-15 and a brown paper bag filled with more than 20 fully-loaded magazines.

Incredibly rare, but not for lack of trying.

 

[BlazerCaravan]

What the??

You don't think that's a crackpot theory?

I'll dress it up with better words next time.

Sarcasm, my friend... sarcasm.

 

[BoBoBREWSKI]

CNN is reporting the shooter had an AR-15 and a brown paper bag filled with more than 20 fully-loaded magazines.

I heard on the radio that it was a hunting rifle... single fire... not an automatic rifle.

 

[BlazerCaravan]

http://gawker.com/its-really-hard-to-be-a-good-guy-with-a-gun-1588660306

I liked the candor of this article.

 

[Natebishop3]

Don't prohibit it, strictly regulate it.

But unlike alcohol, you can't.

Strictly regulate it how? I still have yet to see a realistic idea for firearm regulations that would actually lower school shootings.

 

[Natebishop3]

Shooter was a 15 year old at Reynolds.

Brought the gun on a school bus in a guitar case.

 

[Natebishop3]

Weapons were locked but the kid broke the locks. There goes that argument.

 

[Natebishop3]

I'm watching the live press conference from the Police Chief on KGW.

It was an AR-15. He had a handgun as well. He brought the guitar case and a duffel bag on the bus.

They said the guns were secure at home, but the shooter defeated the locks.

Sounds like the lockdown procedure worked very well. One student died, but the response of the police was incredible. They actually traded fire with the shooter before he shot himself.

 

[RR7]

I still have yet to see a realistic idea for firearm regulations that would actually lower school shootings.

You have absolutely no way of knowing if that is true or not.

 

[EL PRESIDENTE]

Wondering if its another aspie.

 

[Natebishop3]

You have absolutely no way of knowing if that is true or not.

Let's look at the latest shooting.

15 year old shooter. (legally can't purchase a firearm)

Gun was legally purchased by parents.

Guns were secured (per the police) but the shooter defeated the locks.

So how would background checks have stopped this? How would locks have stopped this from happening? They didn't.

What am I missing?