Shooting at Reynolds High School

[Natebishop3]

Of course it's necessary. You and your guys with guns will get shot at.

Barfo doesn't have any guns. Barfo doesn't believe in guns. Barfo will be hiding in his home if the shit ever hits the fan.

 

[Denny Crane]

Yes. But you and your guys with guns will get shot.

barfo

I think in the end, your leader surrenders like in Iraq.

 

[Natebishop3]

I think in the end, your leader surrenders like in Iraq.

Barfo is a tory. I'm sure there are many like him. Tory's will never understand why guns are important.

 

[barfo]

Barfo doesn't have any guns. Barfo doesn't believe in guns. Barfo will be hiding in his home if the shit ever hits the fan.

Incorrect assumptions.

If you guys really want a civil war, then that's what we'll have. I just think that's a stupid childish fantasy which will inevitably end badly.

barfo

 

[Natebishop3]

Incorrect assumptions.

If you guys really want a civil war, then that's what we'll have. I just think that's a stupid childish fantasy which will inevitably end badly.

barfo

I never said I want one. I said that an armed public is the only real thing that prevents our country from getting to the point where we need one.

 

[barfo]

I think in the end, your leader surrenders like in Iraq.

I think in the end, your leader surrenders like David Koresh.

barfo

 

[RR7]

I made the winning argument. The government couldn't keep the peace in Iraq, Afghanistan, or a tiny country named Vietnam. All those countries smaller than the US and with a far less literate populace. If they can't take away the bad guys' guns in a country smaller than California (Iraq), how are they going to do it here?

No, this argument of yours fails like it always does because the examples you use like Iraq and Afghanistan didn't last strictly on stuff that is legal here. SO in order to get to that point, we'd be breaking the law and using things not protected under the 2nd amendment like road side bombs and rocket launchers and such. Saying they did it, so that's why we need the 2nd amendment is just a horribly flawed argument.

 

[Natebishop3]

No, this argument of yours fails like it always does because the examples you use like Iraq and Afghanistan didn't last strictly on stuff that is legal here. SO in order to get to that point, we'd be breaking the law and using things not protected under the 2nd amendment like road side bombs and rocket launchers and such. Saying they did it, so that's why we need the 2nd amendment is just a horribly flawed argument.

If it ever came to a civil war in America, I can guarantee you there would be IED's and all kinds of nasty shit. Laws would go right out the window. Of course, I don't see American rebels blowing up women and children to make a point.

 

[RoyToy]

If it ever came to a civil war in America, I can guarantee you there would be IED's and all kinds of nasty shit. Laws would go right out the window. Of course, I don't see American rebels blowing up women and children to make a point.

I do.

 

[Denny Crane]

I think in the end, your leader surrenders like David Koresh.

barfo

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oklahoma_City_bombing

Motivation[edit]

McVeigh and Nichols cited the federal government's actions against the Branch Davidian compound in the 1993 Waco Siege (shown above) as a reason they perpetrated the Oklahoma City bombing.

The chief conspirators, Timothy McVeigh and Terry Nichols, met in 1988 at Fort Benning during basic training for the U.S. Army.[17] Michael Fortier, McVeigh's accomplice, was his Army roommate.[18] The three shared interests in survivalism.[19][20] They expressed anger at the federal government's handling of the 1992 Federal Bureau of Investigation (FBI) standoff with Randy Weaver at Ruby Ridge as well as the Waco siege—a 1993 51-day standoff between the FBI and Branch Davidian members which began with a botched ATF attempt to execute a search warrant leading to a fire fight (it is unknown whether ATF agents or Branch Davidians fired the first shot) and ended with the burning and shooting deaths of David Koresh and 75 others.[21] In March 1993, McVeigh visited the Waco site during the standoff, and then again after its conclusion.[22] McVeigh later decided to bomb a federal building as a response to the raids.[12][23][24][25]

 

[SlyPokerDog]

Of course, I don't see American rebels blowing up women and children to make a point.

 

[blue32]

So it just came out that this kid kept a journal saying to kill all sinners.

Good stuff, sooo, tell me again how this kid is not suffering from some sort of mental condition? I mean at some point you have to wonder how he doesn't understand right from wrong.

 

[RR7]

If it ever came to a civil war in America, I can guarantee you there would be IED's and all kinds of nasty shit. Laws would go right out the window. Of course, I don't see American rebels blowing up women and children to make a point.

of course there would. But none of that really has anything to do with the 2nd amendment.

 

[Natebishop3]

of course there would. But none of that really has anything to do with the 2nd amendment.

You don't think a civil war has anything to do with the 2nd amendment?

 

[RR7]

You don't think a civil war has anything to do with the 2nd amendment?

I don't think that fighting our government with ieds has anything to do with the 2nd amendment.

 

[Further]

So it just came out that this kid kept a journal saying to kill all sinners.

Good stuff, sooo, tell me again how this kid is not suffering from some sort of mental condition? I mean at some point you have to wonder how he doesn't understand right from wrong.

Ok, so I'm just talking crazy here, and am about to propose a possible state of mind. This may be offensive, and I don't claim I'm right, just that this makes some sense to me.


Sounds to me like this is most likely a mix of some mental issue alongside being raised devoutly Mormon. There are quite a few parts of scripture Mormons turn to that talk about defending ones family. Mormons usually are very well prepared for any disaster, with the church providing a years food for every member and copious amounts more for neighbors and friends. This philosophy according to a ex-Mormon friend of mine has spread to armament and he said most of the Mormons where he was from (Montana) had dozens of guns and tens of thousands of rounds of ammo stored.

So here you have a kid who grows up being preached to all the time about sinners, while family and friends all have tones of guns and talk about the honor of using them (to protect ones family). His brother is in the military, so who he looks up to always has weapons and is looked at as a hero.

So wires get crossed in his mentally deranged head, he sees sinners as evil and taking them down as an homer able way to be a man, and a chance to use his guns in the glory of god and family.

 

[MarAzul]

Adam Carolla! No he never spoke with MarAzul.

 

[BlazerCaravan]

So it just came out that this kid kept a journal saying to kill all sinners.

Religion of peace.

 

[MarAzul]

Making arms illegal because you think that evil people have too many guns
is like having yourself castrated because you think your neighbors have too many kids...

 

[bodyman5000 and 1]

Making arms illegal because you think that evil people have too many guns
is like having yourself castrated because you think your neighbors have too many kids...

Kinda

 

[rasheedfan2005]

I beg somebody to come on here and defend gun owners. This is bullshit!


Sent from my baller ass iPhone 5S...... FAMS!

I own 4 guns. Never shot anyone tbh.

 

[barfo]

Making arms illegal because you think that evil people have too many guns
is like having yourself castrated because you think your neighbors have too many kids...

The more correct analogy would be that it's like having everyone castrated.

Of course, if balls are outlawed, only outlaws will have balls.

barfo

 

[rasheedfan2005]

So it just came out that this kid kept a journal saying to kill all sinners.

Good stuff, sooo, tell me again how this kid is not suffering from some sort of mental condition? I mean at some point you have to wonder how he doesn't understand right from wrong.

Im a christian. Never tried to kill a sinner. Hell... I am one.


Its as if dude is crazy and gun ownership and religion has nothing to do with it.

 

[barfo]

Im a christian. Never tried to kill a sinner. Hell... I am one.


Its as if dude is crazy and gun ownership and religion has nothing to do with it.

I'm crazy. Never tried to kill anyone.

It's as if dude was a religious gun owner and crazy had nothing to do with it.

barfo

 

[rasheedfan2005]

Tbh he probably had liberal vegan parents growing up. He didnt get enough milk fat and protein for his brain to properly develope. Thanks hippies.

 

[rasheedfan2005]

I'm crazy. Never tried to kill anyone.

It's as if dude was a religious gun owner and crazy had nothing to do with it.

barfo

Good point. Its as if murderers are going to murder if they feel like murdering. I suppose thats why we have police and jail. Unfortunately, crime tends to have victims. We certainly feel bad for the victims, but punishing the law abiding populace for crimes they didnt commit is more scary to me than the possibility of being a victim some day. And I work in an environment where im likely to be shot, and im forced to work with no weapon at all because people are so scared of them.

Its insane to me that I can legally carry on the street but when I come to work where im more likely to be shot or assaulted I cant carry because fucking morons made laws against those of us who follow the rules. I cant tell you how many loaded guns have fallen out of peoples pockets when I pull them from the vehicle, none have been legally registered of course, so laws didnt stop them, only me from protecting myself and the staff I work with.

 

[Sedatedfork]

Good point. Its as if murderers are going to murder if they feel like murdering. I suppose thats why we have police and jail. Unfortunately, crime tends to have victims. We certainly feel bad for the victims, but punishing the law abiding populace for crimes they didnt commit is more scary to me than the possibility of being a victim some day. And I work in an environment where im likely to be shot, and im forced to work with no weapon at all because people are so scared of them.

Its insane to me that I can legally carry on the street but when I come to work where im more likely to be shot or assaulted I cant carry because fucking morons made laws against those of us who follow the rules. I cant tell you how many loaded guns have fallen out of peoples pockets when I pull them from the vehicle, none have been legally registered of course, so laws didnt stop them, only me from protecting myself and the staff I work with.

Do you have a problem with these people that have loaded weapons when you pull them out of the vehicle? Why would you assume they are bad people just because they have an unregistered gun?

 

[MarAzul]

Do you have a problem with these people that have loaded weapons when you pull them out of the vehicle? Why would you assume they are bad people just because they have an unregistered gun?

He didn't say a word about them being bad people.

 

[Denny Crane]

Do you have a problem with these people that have loaded weapons when you pull them out of the vehicle? Why would you assume they are bad people just because they have an unregistered gun?

Technically, guns do not have to be registered.

 

[rasheedfan2005]

Do you have a problem with these people that have loaded weapons when you pull them out of the vehicle? Why would you assume they are bad people just because they have an unregistered gun?

Because they have bullet holes in them and usually drugs fall out of the pocket as well. If someone has drugs, a gun, and a bullet lodged in their ass, I use my jump to conclusions mat and assume they arent stand up model citizens like myself.