Shooting at Umpqua Community College: 10 dead

[donkiez]

http://nypost.com/2015/10/01/oregon-gunman-singled-out-christians-during-rampage/


A Twitter user named @bodhilooney, who said her grandmother was at the scene of the carnage, tweeted that if victims said they were Christian, “then they were shot in the head. If they said no, or didn’t answer, they were shot in the legs.”

Gunman Chris Harper-Mercer’s disdain for religion was evident in an online profile, in which he became a member of a “doesn’t like organized religion” group on an Internet dating site.

your article is a week old, from the day of the tragedy. I think we have a little more information on events now. The christian persecution angle has been debunked by everyone except for the people with blinders on.

 

[magnifier661]

For all you Christians clamoring about being discriminated against... Most terrorist acts done in this country are done by White Male Christians. See Timothy McVey...

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/September_11_attacks

3,000 death and 6,000 injured. We're Christians flying the plane?

 

[dviss1]

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/September_11_attacks

3,000 death and 6,000 injured. We're Christians flying the plane?

That's for those of you who believe that. I simply don't.

 

[magnifier661]

your article is a week old, from the day of the tragedy. I think we have a little more information on events now. The christian persecution angle has been debunked by everyone except for the people with blinders on.

It's funny you use a media outlet we all laugh at. But keep on fighting the good fight.

 

[magnifier661]

That's for those of you who believe that. I simply don't.

LOL are you a conspiracy theorist that believes this was an inside job???? Hahahaha

 

[donkiez]

It's funny you use a media outlet we all laugh at. But keep on fighting the good fight.

whats funny is that I dont even know what you are trying to say here, or what point you are trying to make.

 

[dviss1]

LOL are you a conspiracy theorist that believes this was an inside job???? Hahahaha

No... I like you don't trust the government's reasoning. It's convenient for you to trust the government on the largest attack on our country but not on healthcare and taxes... Jesus...

I think more thorough investigation needs to be done to determine why we were told that jet fuel which burns at 1800 degrees created MOLTEN steel which burns at 2500 degrees. It's physically impossible.

 

[magnifier661]

No... I like you don't trust the government's reasoning. It's convenient for you to trust the government on the largest attack on our country but not on healthcare and taxes... Jesus...

I think more thorough investigation needs to be done to determine why we were told that jet fuel which burns at 1800 degrees created MOLTEN steel which burns at 2500 degrees. It's physically impossible.

So you are saying it was not the planes that dropped the trade center? LOL

 

[Mediocre Man]

http://www.oregonlive.com/pacific-n...f/2015/10/gunman_in_oregon_college_shoot.html

I have seen elsewhere that reports of some are that regardless of the answer about faith, the person was still shot in the same way as those that said they were Christian.

So one report out of hundreds. Thanks.

 

[magnifier661]

whats funny is that I dont even know what you are trying to say here, or what point you are trying to make.

That Oreigonian is a hack press that most everyone discredits in the forum. But since they reported something that supports your argument, it's unbiased journalism.

Remember they also reported that the school wasn't a gun free zone, which is 100% inaccurate

 

[dviss1]

So you are saying it was not the planes that dropped the trade center? LOL

That's exactly what I'm saying. A plane hitting the tower would NOT make it pancake into itself. So bottom line, it's very convenient of you to TRUST the government on THIS issue but no other one. I don't.

 

[dviss1]

There is no correlation because society CHOOSES to ignore it.

With these mass shootings involving young males, many of them who are in the news have Aspergers.
Roseburg shooter
Elliot Rogers.
James Holmes.
Suing Hui Choi (VA Tech Shooter)

And god knows who else. Many may not even have been diagnosed.

And we should trust you on the issue because you are the foremost knowledgeable...

So what is your proposal? Take guns away from Aspergers and Autistics? Deny them their "constitutional right? So it's ok to deny a certain sect of our population (and I really don't know why I'm debating with the guy who wants to blame Black people...) access to firearms?

 

[Natebishop3]

And we should trust you on the issue because you are the foremost knowledgeable...

So what is your proposal? Take guns away from Aspergers and Autistics? Deny them their "constitutional right? So it's ok to deny a certain sect of our population (and I really don't know why I'm debating with the guy who wants to blame Black people...) access to firearms?

Well, I mean technically we already deny firearms to people who have been convicted of a felony or domestic violence.

 

[magnifier661]

That's exactly what I'm saying. A plane hitting the tower would NOT make it pancake into itself. So bottom line, it's very convenient of you to TRUST the government on THIS issue but no other one. I don't.

Lol, well your logic has flown out the window. Nothing to see here.

 

[dviss1]

Lol, well your logic has flown out the window. Nothing to see here.

Logic dictates a tower to fall sideways... Not implode like a controlled demolition. Also, what about Building 7??? You know the one that imploded WITHOUT being hit by a plane?

 

[Sedatedfork]

So one report out of hundreds. Thanks.

Typical media jumps on first version, which is more sensational than the other. Those 100 other reports are from the same early source - Boylan's dad who wasnt even there. When Boylan was actually interviewed she said he asks what their religion was, not whether they were Christian. Same thing happened at Columbine. Read the book columbine and you will see how a false narrative developed.

Edit: And I should add, that in my opinion, it is really inconclusive what happened. In such a traumatic situation, what's remembered and how it is remembered is often blurred. Often people try to make sense of a senseless crime (when by definition it is senseless) and if it helps people to conclude that the shooter was on a mission to kill Christians, who am I to tell them that they can't believe that. However, after reading Columbine, I really don't put a lot of credence into one person's interpretation of what happened that day even if the media runs with it and it becomes the accepted version by most because of its repetitive telling. Here is another link discussing the dispute in versions.

http://news.discovery.com/history/us-history/were-christians-targeted-in-oregon-shooting-151006.htm

 

[magnifier661]

Logic dictates a tower to fall sideways... Not implode like a controlled demolition. Also, what about Building 7??? You know the one that imploded WITHOUT being hit by a plane?

Okay... When's your next documentary for America to put on their tin foil hats coming out?

 

[blue32]

Well, I mean technically we already deny firearms to people who have been convicted of a felony or domestic violence.

THATS RACIST. err.... um..... /blink

 

[EL PRESIDENTE]

And we should trust you on the issue because you are the foremost knowledgeable...

So what is your proposal? Take guns away from Aspergers and Autistics? Deny them their "constitutional right? So it's ok to deny a certain sect of our population (and I really don't know why I'm debating with the guy who wants to blame Black people...) access to firearms?

BECAUSE I'M USUALLY RIGHT.

So...you wouldn't deny firearm access to people with diagnosed mental health issues?

And I said what my proposal was, the most important thing to do is to recognize that people that are autistic and that have aspergers may have these tendencies and their parents need to not ignore them.

 

[Denny Crane]

Bernie Sanders is a self proclaimed Democratic Socialist. He has voted AGAINST suing firearms manufacturers. You need to stop telling us socialists what to think... Because you really don't know.

I do know. The writings and philosophy of socialists are well documented, as are their deeds.

 

[Denny Crane]

Bernie Sanders is a self proclaimed Democratic Socialist. He has voted AGAINST suing firearms manufacturers. You need to stop telling us socialists what to think... Because you really don't know.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/bernie-sanders-gun-control-record_55e31295e4b0aec9f3538fba

During an interview on CNN's "State of the Union," Sanders touted his lifetime voting record of D-minus with the NRA.

You want to deceive me into thinking he has a much better record on guns?

 

[magnifier661]

 

[magnifier661]

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/bernie-sanders-gun-control-record_55e31295e4b0aec9f3538fba

During an interview on CNN's "State of the Union," Sanders touted his lifetime voting record of D-minus with the NRA.

You want to deceive me into thinking he has a much better record on guns?

It is argued his only support for gun is because Vermont citizens will not support anyone that wants gun control. This is further proof that he is controlled by political agendas like everyone else in DC

 

[barfo]

It is argued his only support for gun is because Vermont citizens will not support anyone that wants gun control. This is further proof that he is controlled by political agendas like everyone else in DC

Sometimes I really wonder about you, Mags. You complain that he's doing what the people who elected him want. How is that bad?
Yes, all politicians are involved in politics. By definition. Do you think your boy Trump does not have a political agenda? He does. He's a politician now. Putting different people in office does not get rid of the politics.

barfo

 

[magnifier661]

Sometimes I really wonder about you, Mags. You complain that he's doing what the people who elected him want. How is that bad?
Yes, all politicians are involved in politics. By definition. Do you think your boy Trump does not have a political agenda? He does. He's a politician now. Putting different people in office does not get rid of the politics.

barfo

He absolutely does have a political agenda, but outwardly speaks that agenda, regardless if it's popular or not. Bernie wants gun control, but chooses not to push that agenda in Vermont because he won't get voted. Notice the difference?

 

[barfo]

He absolutely does have a political agenda, but outwardly speaks that agenda, regardless if it's popular or not. Bernie wants gun control, but chooses not to push that agenda in Vermont because he won't get voted. Notice the difference?

So, you are in favor then of Obama 'outwardly speaking' his agenda on gun control?

I thought you've been whining about that.

barfo

 

[magnifier661]

So, you are in favor then of Obama 'outwardly speaking' his agenda on gun control?

I thought you've been whining about that.

barfo

He's already done "thank God". We only have to endure one more year of his madness and he's gone. He doesn't have to worry about being elected any longer, so he can shove his agenda down our throats.

 

[barfo]

He's already done "thank God". We only have to endure one more year of his madness and he's gone. He doesn't have to worry about being elected any longer, so he can shove his agenda down our throats.

Will we need to put you on suicide watch when Trump flames out?

barfo

 

[Denny Crane]

So, you are in favor then of Obama 'outwardly speaking' his agenda on gun control?

I thought you've been whining about that.

barfo

He seems to speak outwardly about banning certain types of speech, too.

I can think of at least two examples. Maybe you can, too.

 

[barfo]

He seems to speak outwardly about banning certain types of speech, too.

I can think of at least two examples. Maybe you can, too.

Nope, can't think of any, not that I'm going too try to hard. I'll bite, what do you have in mind?

barfo