OT Should he be punished?

[Chris Craig]

I suppose it could be.
It is hard to signal any other way.

Marazul virtue signal? Hmm

 

[Further]

Sounds like righty virtue signaling
@Further

I suppose it could be.
It is hard to signal any other way.

So I posted an actual response to the OP and instead of debating it, you pull this virtue signaling BS. It's a crap tactic to distract. Im done. I will no longer respond to you. You have nothing to add to any conversation so I will no longer indulge you.

 

[MarAzul]

So I posted an actual response to the OP and instead of debating it, you pull this virtue signaling BS. It's a crap tactic to distract. Im done. I will no longer respond to you. You have nothing to add to any conversation so I will no longer indulge you.

Dang man! Be easy, I am not your enemy. Not even trying.

 

[MARIS61]

Not seeing how the perpetrator's race is any factor.

It's clear he/she is mentally ill, and should be expelled to protect the students and the education they are being greatly overcharged for.

 

[MarAzul]

being greatly overcharged for.

This maybe the actual affront that is going on here. While people pay through the nose, whether it's parent, students themselves, or society through private grants or government, the path is obscured for the many by catering to the few.
This sort of obfuscation of the task at hand, does not belong in the system nor should the system be weighted by history.

 

[MarAzul]

I will no longer indulge you.

I never knew you did. I thought you a man. An occasional virtual signalling one to be sure, but a man.

 

[bodyman5000 and 1]

I would say yes, he should be punished but mainly a slap on the wrist compared to if a white person had hung the sign. If it was a white guy the purpose would have been far more nefarious, an act of intimidation and cruelty to another student. Plus it would have been racist. As the Black guy did it, it is still wrong, it is still something that can add to divisiveness on campus but not a threat towards someones safety.

If it were a white dude, I would recommend expulsion. In this case I would recommend suspension for a few days.

I lean towards agreeing with you but I think it is somewhat hypocritical.

Should race be the sole factor in the punishment or the intent? Or both?

 

[Lanny]

I lean towards agreeing with you but I think it is somewhat hypocritical.

Should race be the sole factor in the punishment or the intent? Or both?

Race a factor? I dunno, I can see arguments both ways.

 

[bodyman5000 and 1]

Race a factor? I dunno, I can see arguments both ways.

I dunno if I'd even punish him.

I'm not offended by what he did unless he was trying to make things worse betweem people.

If he was trying to point out how stupid racism is them I agree with what he did.

Even if against the rules...I for one think having permits to protest stuff is completely ridiculous.

 

[MarAzul]

I lean towards agreeing with you but I think it is somewhat hypocritical.

Should race be the sole factor in the punishment or the intent? Or both?

Well, I could look at it this way; If dviss were to post, a n* lives here!
I could agree with him!

If BMan5k were to post, a n* lives here!
I could agree with him.

Really don't need to see either or know more.

The intent is not positive. The distraction is the same.

 

[Further]

I lean towards agreeing with you but I think it is somewhat hypocritical.

Should race be the sole factor in the punishment or the intent? Or both?

I think his race doesn’t play as much of a role as the victim’s race. So, in this case he didn’t do it to someone who suffered fear or intimidation because there wasn’t a real victim. Still what he did was bad, piss poor judgment and can still elevate racial tensions, especially if he haven’t admitted fault.

In the case where a white person had done it to a black person there would have been a victim

A more interesting hypothetical question would be what would have happened if a white person got caught putting up a sign that said “Peckerwoods inside” or something like that on his own door?

But to equate what this idiot did with what would happen if a white guy did it to black man just doesn’t have enough parallels.

 

[MarAzul]

Peckerwoods

Heh?

But to equate what this idiot did with what would happen if a white guy did it to black man just doesn’t have enough parallels.

Forgive me. But I can't relate here.

 

[bodyman5000 and 1]

I think his race doesn’t play as much of a role as the victim’s race. So, in this case he didn’t do it to someone who suffered fear or intimidation because there wasn’t a real victim. Still what he did was bad, piss poor judgment and can still elevate racial tensions, especially if he haven’t admitted fault.

In the case where a white person had done it to a black person there would have been a victim

A more interesting hypothetical question would be what would have happened if a white person got caught putting up a sign that said “Peckerwoods inside” or something like that on his own door?

But to equate what this idiot did with what would happen if a white guy did it to black man just doesn’t have enough parallels.

I literally have no way of knowing anyone's true intent behind doing this.

What if I as a white guy heard other whites talking about being scared of the guy in apartment 210 and I stuck that shit on his door to make a point?

Sounds stupid but a human could do that. Should I get expelled? Maybe

 

[Further]

I literally have no way of knowing anyone's true intent behind doing this.

What if I as a white guy heard other whites talking about being scared of the guy in apartment 210 and I stuck that shit on his door to make a point?

Sounds stupid but a human could do that. Should I get expelled? Maybe

Were I the Dean I would listen to the stories of all the parties involved and then make a judgement call. But that's what it would come down to, a judgement call. If I felt there was racism involved, intimidation involved, harassment involved those would all weigh on the outcome. So would how contrite the person was, if they were willing to go to counseling, stuff like that. But face value I would say expel the white guy who did it to the black guy but not the black guy who did it to himself.

 

[MarAzul]

In the case where a white person had done it to a black person there would have been a victim

I literally have no way of knowing anyone's true intent behind doing this.

What if I as a white guy heard other whites talking about being scared of the guy in apartment 210 and I stuck that shit on his door to make a point?

Sounds stupid but a human could do that. Should I get expelled? Maybe

No. Evicted as an unnecessary distraction if it is school property.

 

[bodyman5000 and 1]

No. Evicted as an necessary distraction if it is school property.

I can see it.

 

[MarAzul]

Were I the Dean I would listen to the stories of all the parties involved and then make a judgement call. But that's what it would come down to, a judgement call. If I felt there was racism involved, intimidation involved, harassment involved those would all weigh on the outcome. So would how contrite the person was, if they were willing to go to counseling, stuff like that. But face value I would say expel the white guy who did it to the black guy but not the black guy who did it to himself.

Actually this sort of stuff need to be clean up for all to deal with learning what needs to be learned. These are distractions.