Politics Should schools teach Critical Race Theory?

[Minstrel]

How do you even prove it?

Don't get me wrong, our education system is horrible and needs to be trashed regardless..... but I really don't think it's because it's culturally biased.

There would need to be a lot of study done, seeing how different groups perform (over large numbers of people over a lot of years) with other variables (like socioeconomic circumstances) controlled for. I'm sure other things would need to go into it--I'm not qualified to design such studies, but I'm sure you can get data that provides evidence for and against.

 

[crandc]

There are valid criticisms of critical race theory by actual scholars but impossible to debate merits of an idea if states ban talking about it.

 

[julius]

I got to find a way to send my kid to a private school because our public schools are a joke.

Wait until you find out that private schools don't actually have to meet any kind of normalized standard for teaching, and tend to be religious in nature.

 

[riverman]

Wait until you find out that private schools don't actually have to meet any kind of normalized standard for teaching, and tend to be religious in nature.

The L Ron Hubbard preschool!

 

[Natebishop3]

Wait until you find out that private schools don't actually have to meet any kind of normalized standard for teaching, and tend to be religious in nature.

I learned that the hard way... I went to a private school for a little bit in SW and it ended up being low key Scientologist.

 

[Lanny]

The only bias I ever saw first hand was the open contempt for all things conservative.

Do you wonder why?

 

[Lanny]

Haven't we put this thing to bed yet? Of course we should teach history as it happened and not the fairy tale version.

 

[Phatguysrule]

The only bias I ever saw first hand was the open contempt for all things conservative.

If by "conservative" you mean anti-science, pro-establishment, then yeah. I really do hate that.

 

[Natebishop3]

If by "conservative" you mean anti-science, pro-establishment, then yeah. I really do hate that.

So cliche. You want to know how many Republicans I know who are anti-science? None.

 

[Phatguysrule]

So cliche. You want to know how many Republicans I know who are anti-science? None.

Then I likely don't have a problem with them. Simple as that.

 

[barfo]

So cliche. You want to know how many Republicans I know who are anti-science? None.

But how many anti-science politicians did they vote for?

barfo

 

[Phatguysrule]

But how many anti-science politicians did they vote for?

barfo

Good point.

 

[Natebishop3]

But how many anti-science politicians did they vote for?

barfo

Does it matter in Oregon? Republicans don't win.

 

[Phatguysrule]

So cliche. You want to know how many Republicans I know who are anti-science? None.

Wait.. It occurs to me that your definition of anti-science may differ from mine.

Do they "believe in" evolution and climate change? Do they understand the economics of a carbon fee and dividend? Do they support it?

Do they support a woman's right to birth control? Because I know many who don't...

 

[barfo]

Does it matter in Oregon? Republicans don't win.

It doesn't matter as long as we keep it that way.

barfo

 

[Natebishop3]

It doesn't matter as long as we keep it that way.

barfo

Because our state is in SUCH good shape?

Boy, 40 years of Democrat rule have gone SO well.

 

[Natebishop3]

Wait.. It occurs to me that your definition of anti-science may differ from mine.

Do they "believe in" evolution and climate change? Do they understand the economics of a carbon fee and dividend? Do they support it?

Do they support a woman's right to birth control? Because I know many who don't...

I'm not sure why Republican automatically means fanatical Christian to you.

 

[Phatguysrule]

I'm not sure why Republican automatically means fanatical Christian to you.

Because most of the Republicans I know are fanatical Christians/Catholics. Most of the republican politicians I know are as well...

That's why I'm asking the questions...

 

[Lanny]

So cliche. You want to know how many Republicans I know who are anti-science? None.

I call bullshit.

 

[Lanny]

Does it matter in Oregon? Republicans don't win.

Do you ever wonder why?

 

[tlongII]

Do you wonder why?

Because many people don’t understand basic concepts of economics?

 

[barfo]

Because many people don’t understand basic concepts of economics?

It is possible to understand economics and yet not be utterly selfish.

barfo

 

[Hoopguru]

It is possible to understand economics and yet not be utterly selfish.

barfo

Thanks for that! My freshman college economics prof started the year off in front of a class say much the same thing!
He also said money is not capital but the chalk you purchased with it, is, so dont steal or bogart the chalk !

 

[Minstrel]

It is possible to understand economics and yet not be utterly selfish.

barfo

Also, I have to question Republicans' supposed grasp of economics when their most treasured economic principles, like austerity and supply side economics, fail miserably whenever they try to adhere to them with no Democratic interference (like Kansas, Oklahoma).

The reality is that most mainstream Republican politicians know perfectly well that those principles don't work, they just need reasonable-sounding lingo to avoid explicitly announcing that their economic platform is reducing taxes for the rich as much as possible and cutting social programs for the non-wealthy as savagely as possible. Oddly, that doesn't play well as a message. The fact that Republican voters (the ones who aren't rich) fall for the line isn't very good evidence that they "understand economics."

 

[andalusian]

The most important resource any nation has in the modern world is the human capital. The Republican party representatives work against health-care, support for the weak and investment in education are proof that they have no fucking clue about economics.

 

[Natebishop3]

Do you ever wonder why?

Gee, maybe because we have something like 70k more Democrats moving here every year?

 

[Natebishop3]

Do you ever wonder why?

I don't know..... do you ever wonder why we don't vote for Republicans when it was a GOP governor who helped implement a lot of things that people love about Oregon?

 

[UncleCliffy'sDaddy]

I don't know..... do you ever wonder why we don't vote for Republicans when it was a GOP governor who helped implement a lot of things that people love about Oregon?

I’m grateful to Republican governor Vic Atiyeh for my retirement every damn day……..

 

[Minstrel]

I don't know..... do you ever wonder why we don't vote for Republicans when it was a GOP governor who helped implement a lot of things that people love about Oregon?

Do most current GOP politicians resemble that governor, politically, in your opinion?

I mean, a lot of people liked Colin Powell in the 1990s and early 2000s, but he wouldn't stand a chance in Republican primaries today. Eisenhower was a relatively popular Republican and today's Republican party would ridicule that Eisenhower as a RINO if he were a politician today.

 

[Natebishop3]

Do most current GOP politicians resemble that governor, politically, in your opinion?

I mean, a lot of people liked Colin Powell in the 1990s and early 2000s, but he wouldn't stand a chance in Republican primaries today. Eisenhower was a relatively popular Republican and today's Republican party would ridicule that Eisenhower as a RINO if he were a politician today.

Do you think a moderate Republican would even stand a chance in Oregon? You simply aren't winning in this state unless you're a Democrat.