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Should we keep Grant to build with Sharpe and Scoot?

  • Yes

    Votes: 14 32.6%
  • No

    Votes: 17 39.5%
  • Depends on what we could get for him

    Votes: 12 27.9%

  • Total voters
    43

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I would demand Caleb Martin with Jovic and Clowney. His tenacity would be a great fit at SF.
Ehh, you might be right. Martin and Grant are both good shooting wings to surround Scoot with.

Jovic could probably play 10mpg at both forward positions. We have no reason to be good, I want Jovic to get as many reps as he can. I weirdly have this kind of feeling he could eventually be a big to can initiate an offense like how Jokic and Giannis do. Clowney plays 6mpg at PF, and the rest of his minutes as third string C.

I’d trade an expiring + a future 2nd for Capela. Capela can rebound, catch lobs, and operate in the PnR with Ant and Scoot. Then might as well play Badji at backup C, Clowney as third string.

It’s funny how much more I’m coming around to the Heat package haha.
 
You're still paying Grant 36M when you'll have to start thinking about Sharpe's and Scoot's contracts.

Aside from that, I'd prefer to deal Grant asap, as he's 29 years old and his value only goes down. Have to say, he was quite servicable in the games without Dame (although we only won 3/14), and I don't know how he does playing with mostly young players. He averaged 25/3.5/3.6, 2.5 threes a steal and 0.85 blk, on 46/40/81 shooting splits in those 14 games. Hopefully *some* team wants to pony up some assets for that.
 
I like him and as long as Jaremi wants to be here I’m fine with it. You need good vets in the locker room. I’m excited for the new Blazers era! This will be Scoots team soon. I just hope they Sharpe and Scoot can coexist.
 
I would really want to pair young players with someone like Josh Hart and not with the guy that can score and not much else. Been there.
 
Yep. Keep him.

He was born here. Most seasoned vet we have. We wanted him bad when Dame wanted him. Think about that.

He signed the contract and if we can get another piece or two of of Dame trade, he can be very valuable. Rebuild may not take as long as we think
 
I think if we get Clowney and Jovic + 4 1sts and 2 unprotected swaps + expirings to go along with Scoot, Sharpe, and Grant, we’re doing alright.

the problem I see with that is you're basically talking about the Nets trading 4 first round picks for Herro. Even factoring in Simmons I don't think they pay that much
 
the problem I see with that is you're basically talking about the Nets trading 4 first round picks for Herro. Even factoring in Simmons I don't think they pay that much

I don't think it will be that much.

I think we get 2 picks from Miami (still hoping for 3)

And maybe 2 picks from Brooklyn (1 for Herro and 1 for Simmons).

So most likely 4-5.

Or are you counting Clowney?
 
Keep Grant. Turn him into Lauri Markkanen. Make him an All-Star.

Keep Ant. Turn him into Dame Jr. Make him an All-Star.

Then? Keep or trade—either way you'll have appreciated the assets, and for once be in a position of leverage in a negotiation.
 
Heavens no

Yeah this is an easy no. Get every asset you can, figure out the vet leadership and culture stuff as you go...

Between now and 2 trade deadlines from now (ie. before he gets too old) there WILL be teams wanting switchable, starting wings...
 
I'm kind of torn.

Having a bunch of rookies kind of negates the cost of his huge salary, and we need a veteran presence, and he's proven that he isn't really going to help you win more games (as he showed in Detroit), so he won't completely screw the tank.

But I'd really prefer to go full-tank mode, get Kris and Jabari as many minutes as possible, and sign some over-the-hill guys who are on their way out of the league shortly to be a veteran presence. I wonder what it would cost to get Ricky Rubio, Taj Gibson, Wes Matthews-type "players".
 
If his contract decreases over time, I can see value in holding onto him for a couple years. In a couple of years, his contract will be smaller percentage of the salary cap (assuming it goes up) and we're not going to be in a rush to spend money to obtain players.

Play him 28 minutes a night. I'm not worried about him winning us too many games we shouldn't.
 
I don't think it will be that much.

I think we get 2 picks from Miami (still hoping for 3)

And maybe 2 picks from Brooklyn (1 for Herro and 1 for Simmons).

So most likely 4-5.

Or are you counting Clowney?

I was counting Clowney as one of the picks. As I said elsewhere, I'd prefer, for instance, the 2027 Phoenix pick over Clowney is that was the choice Portland had
 
But I'd really prefer to go full-tank mode, get Kris and Jabari as many minutes as possible, and sign some over-the-hill guys who are on their way out of the league shortly to be a veteran presence. I wonder what it would cost to get Ricky Rubio, Taj Gibson, Wes Matthews-type "players".
I hear you about getting the young players minutes but the new CBA rules about the salary floor mean that we need to have some salaries on the books.
 
the problem I see with that is you're basically talking about the Nets trading 4 first round picks for Herro. Even factoring in Simmons I don't think they pay that much
It would be 3 1sts + 2 pick swaps from Miami. Then ideally 1 1st + Clowney for Herro, and another 1st for taking the remainder of Ben’s contract.
 
No. It's a waste of money that we should be using in other ways. I'm hopeful we can get something for him, but I'm not very confident. He is rarely healthy and him getting injured again seems unavoidable... as does him being on the wrong side of 30.

As a player, he's fine but overpaid. As a Blazer, his acquisition was a waste of time and resources and keeping him is throwing good resources after bad.
 
It would be 3 1sts + 2 pick swaps from Miami. Then ideally 1 1st + Clowney for Herro, and another 1st for taking the remainder of Ben’s contract.

so, is the assumption that Miami will work out a deal with OKC to give back their 2025 pick? Blazers getting 2024? As for swaps, I'm assuming one is 2029. Blazers couldn't trade another swap unless they work a deal with the Bulls and I'm betting Bulls won't sell their leverage cheaply

maybe the Blazers could get that much out of Brooklyn, but I'm really skeptical they want Herro that badly
 
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