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I'm not a fan of Lowry.....he is not better than DAME......definitely not THAT much better.
 
This list absolutely makes no sense. Dame finished 10th in All team NBA so how is it that he is 21? the CJ thing is also ridiculous, he is a top 5 SG no way he is 50. List is drunk
 
Here is the complete write up Lillard:

21. Damian Lillard, PG, Trail Blazers

There is an unmistakable moxie to Lillard that serves as a guiding principle of his play. Whatever shot the defense gives, he’ll take; Lillard isn’t shy about stepping into long three-pointers or pulling up early on defenses daft enough to give him room. He keeps his balance and his wits about him on the toughest of shots, finding ways to connect on a larger percentage than would seem reasonable. The volume of what Lillard can generate is more than enough to lead an offense and the range of looks he creates is more than enough to keep it viable. Scorers of his magnitude essentially force a defense into mistakes. Either opponents overplay Lillard so severely that his teammates are left wide open or they leave themselves vulnerable to Lillard’s incendiary shooting game. There are no safe plays or right answers—all because Lillard himself nixes them. Unfortunately, Lillard is the sort of defender all but guaranteed to give points back in the exchange. He will go through stretches of games where his investment and attention to detail pay off in the form of passable coverage. More often, Lillard is the defender allowing a clear driving lane to his man or stepping out of position at an inopportune time. The problem with hiding players like Lillard, too, is that their height becomes an exploitable factor in cross-match situations. Stashing Lillard on a lesser scoring threat won’t fully protect him from being worked over in the post or left flat-footed as an opponent shoots over the top. Teams would still gladly take that tradeoff because Lillard works offensively in a way so few other players can. You hide Lillard when possible, you protect him through your system, and if all else fails, you take solace in the fact that one of the most dangerous scorers in the game will take every target as a slight. (Last year: No. 24)

+ Ranked ninth in points generated via assist per game
+ Does a surprisingly effective job of getting into the mix as a rebounder
– A poor enough defender that it can be difficult to even hide him
– Subpar finisher on contested layups
 
HCP said:
I'm not a fan of Lowry.....he is not better than DAME......definitely not THAT much better.
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His defensive is much better than Dame's and he shoots percentage wise better. Although not much better there but he kills Dame with his defense is the one
 
LOL!

11. LaMarcus Aldridge, PF, Spurs

Never underestimate the composite value of a consistent shot creator who plays effective team defense. There are players ranked behind Aldridge on this list who are independently better at offense or defense. Where he distinguishes himself is in conceding so little: Aldridge is a first-option scorer who rebounds well, holds up defensively, and maximizes his possessions by avoiding turnovers. He can’t really be exploited or attacked in any consistent way and his game—by virtue of the fact that he already shoots and makes so many difficult, mid-range shots—isn’t particularly vulnerable to scheming. That immutability matters. Every team in the NBA is a blend of variables that players and coaches do their best to account for. To have a stabilizing certainty in the middle of everything makes the entire process simpler. Aldridge grants that, and in the process alleviates lesser offensive players from overstretch. The fact that he moves and contests well defensively—even if not well enough to anchor a defense himself—keeps possessions from falling apart. It’s not just Aldridge’s production that stabilizes a team but the very way that he operates. San Antonio will lean on that quality as it makes sense of a present and future without Tim Duncan. Kawhi Leonard is San Antonio’s best player. But it’s Aldridge who offers the groundwork for a franchise’s redefinition and helps stabilize the transition from one era to the next. (Last year: No. 12)

+ Game suited for either isolation or more fluid ball/player movement
+ Contributor to a historically great team defense last season
– Has good size but offers flimsy rim protection
– Not always a positive cultural influence
 
updated for Lillard. Plumlee was about right, maybe a bit high. CJ, Lillard, and Chief are ranked too low, IMHO.
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A little arithmetic (several reasonablish assumptions made):

What Tier Starter?
There are 30 teams and 150 starters. If you're in the top 100, then you should be a starter, whether you are or not. In particular, Plumlee at #94 ranks as a 94*5/150 = 3.13, i.e. he is worthy of being a third best player on an average team.

What Tier Playoff Starter?
There are 16 playoff teams and 80 starters. If you're in the top 100, then you should be a starter, whether you are or not. In particular, Plumlee at #94 ranks as a 94*5/80 = 5.88. A playoff 5th best starter should be between 4.5 and 5.5. He is barely not worthy of being a starter on an average playoff team (according to SI) - his play must be compensated for by other players

Player: Absolute Rank, Positional Rank, Positional Playoff Rank
Plumlee: 94, 3.13, 5.88
CJ: 50, 1.67, 3.13
Lillard: 21, 0.7, 1.31

Note:
0.01 - 1.00 Best Player on Team (0.50 is approximate average)
1.01 - 2.00 2nd Best Player on Team (1.50 is approximate average)
2.01 - 3.00 3rd Best Player on Team (2.50 is approximate average)
3.01 - 4.00 4th Best Player on Team (3.50 is approximate average)
4.01 - 5.00 5th Best Player on Team (4.50 is approximate average)
 
Quick reminder: This isn't like ESPN rankings where they literally poll hundreds of people. It's more like the "opinions are like a$$holes, everyone's got one" thing.

 
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I love this list.

Ranking Plumlee @93 is going to boost his confidence.

Under ranking CJ @ #50, and Dame @ #21, is going to put a log size chip on both of their shoulders. Both of them are going to use their log as a club to maul the opponents all next season.

It will be so much fun watching our underdogs kick ass around the league.
 
SlyPokerDog said:
LOL!

11. LaMarcus Aldridge, PF, Spurs

Never underestimate the composite value of a consistent shot creator who plays effective team defense. There are players ranked behind Aldridge on this list who are independently better at offense or defense. Where he distinguishes himself is in conceding so little: Aldridge is a first-option scorer who rebounds well, holds up defensively, and maximizes his possessions by avoiding turnovers. He can’t really be exploited or attacked in any consistent way and his game—by virtue of the fact that he already shoots and makes so many difficult, mid-range shots—isn’t particularly vulnerable to scheming. That immutability matters. Every team in the NBA is a blend of variables that players and coaches do their best to account for. To have a stabilizing certainty in the middle of everything makes the entire process simpler. Aldridge grants that, and in the process alleviates lesser offensive players from overstretch. The fact that he moves and contests well defensively—even if not well enough to anchor a defense himself—keeps possessions from falling apart. It’s not just Aldridge’s production that stabilizes a team but the very way that he operates. San Antonio will lean on that quality as it makes sense of a present and future without Tim Duncan. Kawhi Leonard is San Antonio’s best player. But it’s Aldridge who offers the groundwork for a franchise’s redefinition and helps stabilize the transition from one era to the next. (Last year: No. 12)

+ Game suited for either isolation or more fluid ball/player movement
+ Contributor to a historically great team defense last season
– Has good size but offers flimsy rim protection
– Not always a positive cultural influence
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LOL!!!!! Best part of it all is in bold.
 
Sorry to say it, Kyle Lowry is a great player but over rated. 14 is crazy
 
How about the fact that Gasol goes from 9 to 22 just because of an injury. This list is a clown show!
 
Given the low ratings of Lillard, CJ, and Irving, the list clearly values defense. Love at #30 slightly contradicts that, but he might have been considered a top-10 player on offense a couple years ago.
 
Being a bit arbitrary with my picks, I counted 6 players ahead of CJ that I think he's better than:

Eric Bledsoe
Giannis Antetokounmpo
Danilo Gallinari
Andre Iguodala
Steven Adams
Khris Middleton

Two players ahead of Dame that he's better than:

DeAndre Jordan
Lamarcus

CJ - 44
Dame - 19
 
Tunchi said:
I tried telling you. I guess non bias writers know
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So according to you, if a writer agrees with you, he knows what he's talking about and is unbiased. However you have a biased opinion of that reporter just because he agrees with your outlandish opinions. Pot, meet kettle

Thing is, if a writer makes the same arguments you do, then the only thing that writer is, is an absolute idiot.

(Hopefully that last part is indirect enough)
 
I don't get into these beauty pageant ratings by on-line "experts". I'd certainly argue about a few of the guys that they rank ahead of Dame and CJ, but what's the point? I would, however,bet that Dame and CJ are both well aware of these ratings and aren't happy about them. If they want to prove that they're deserving of higher rankings they both need to improve their defense (something that the team has said that they're definitely going to work hard at so that they can take a step up). Other than that, the team has to repeat or improve on last year's level of success so that the "fluke" argument goes out the window and so that they get the benefit of the greater recognition that perennial playoff players get.
 
10. Blake Griffin, PF, Clippers
9. Paul George, SF, Pacers
8. Anthony Davis, PF, Pelicans
7. James Harden, SG, Rockets
6. Kawhi Leonard, SG, Spurs
5. Russell Westbrook, PG, Thunder
4. Chris Paul, PG, Clippers
3. Stephen Curry, PG, Warriors
2. Kevin Durant, SF, Warriors
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1b. LeBron James, SF, Cavaliers
1a. SlyPokerDog, SF, Undrafted


http://www.si.com/nba/2016/09/12/nba-top-100-player-rankings
 
SlyPokerDog said:
10. Blake Griffin, PF, Clippers
9. Paul George, SF, Pacers
8. Anthony Davis, PF, Pelicans
7. James Harden, SG, Rockets
6. Kawhi Leonard, SG, Spurs
5. Russell Westbrook, PG, Thunder
4. Chris Paul, PG, Clippers
3. Stephen Curry, PG, Warriors
2. Kevin Durant, SF, Warriors
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1b. LeBron James, SF, Cavaliers
1a. SlyPokerDog, SF, Undrafted


http://www.si.com/nba/2016/09/12/nba-top-100-player-rankings
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Great! Another list that makes zero sense!!!!
 
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