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AgentDrazenPetrovic

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It sounds cliche, but I've really gotten sick of the bar scene in the last few months. Just seems like the same shit every week, same losers, same hassles and shit.

don't even get wasted anymore for no reason. that was fun. maybe its the winter weather....but when did you get "sick of the bar scene"?
 
Shortly after turning 21.

Guys from my fraternity in college worked the door at most of the local bars so I started going alot when I was 18. By the time I was allowed to be there it was boring. We'd usually just go early to have a few drinks and pick up some girls before having a party at our house.
 
I starting getting sick of it as my skill at pulling chicks deteriorated.
 
tlongII said:
I starting getting sick of it as my skill at pulling chicks deteriorated.
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After you establish yourself, its a bit better. The more you have going for you, the better. its no longer about random hookups...i guess i'm looking for more quality than the bar-type girls.
 
AgentDrazenPetrovic said:
After you establish yourself, its a bit better. The more you have going for you, the better. its no longer about random hookups...i guess i'm looking for more quality than the bar-type girls.
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Yeah, I'm 23 and getting kind of tired of it. More tired of spending money and hangovers than the partying part, but oh well. As for the girls, just improve your skills a la "Keys To The VIP" style. You can meet some quality girls at bars. But I feel like most of the quality girls have been spoken for...I don't know. It sucks to be the geek in high school, playing catch up in college with social skills, and then realizing that if you kept working hard you'd be the guy the gold diggers are now after.
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BalancedMan said:
Yeah, I'm 23 and getting kind of tired of it. More tired of spending money and hangovers than the partying part, but oh well. As for the girls, just improve your skills a la "Keys To The VIP" style. You can meet some quality girls at bars. But I feel like most of the quality girls have been spoken for...I don't know. It sucks to be the geek in high school, playing catch up in college with social skills, and then realizing that if you kept working hard you'd be the guy the gold diggers are now after.
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are you a PUA? wish they played that Keys to the VIP show, that was entertaining.

dunno, meet girls all the time but most of the ones at bars are all fucked up in the head. but i guess birds of a feather flock together eh? heh.

don't get me wrong, I'm down for partying it up still but going barhopping in LA is just something I'm over. other cities are still up for game though....
 
I didn't get a chance at the bar scene in my 20's. But all my drinking now is done at my place or a buddy's house, where there's better stuff, and it's much cheaper...or the local pub, where there's great food and good conversation and the waitress calls you by name with her lilting accent.
 
My "bar scene" changes as I go through different stages . . . but going out drinking and socializing is still fun for me.
 
AgentDrazenPetrovic said:
are you a PUA? wish they played that Keys to the VIP show, that was entertaining.

dunno, meet girls all the time but most of the ones at bars are all fucked up in the head. but i guess birds of a feather flock together eh? heh.

don't get me wrong, I'm down for partying it up still but going barhopping in LA is just something I'm over. other cities are still up for game though....
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I won't claim to be a "PUA" but I do know a decent amount of stuff. I really am uncomfortable with the indirect approaches ("Hey did you see the fight outside") where you get under the radar and essentially lie to them. On Valentines day I was at a bar and went up to a girl and said "Stop looking at me like you know me, it's making me feel uncomfortable"...and she has been all over me ever since (although she isn't that hot...maybe a 7, and that's factoring in that she's a Physician's Assistant student).

Lots of girls go out and dance, so it's possible to meet quality girls. Just realize that most hot girls have been hit on their entire life, and it's tough for that to happen and for them to stay modest and cool. It's called the Bitch Shield.

So while I can't get every girl I want...probably just two years ago if you asked me to "flirt" I wouldn't know what to do. I started reading David DeAngelo's newsletter six years ago and understood the concepts and how/why they worked but couldn't put them into practice myself. Now I can to some degree...and the stuff works. I had fun in Russia, where I made out with six girls over the course of two nights despite not speaking a word of Russian nor they of English (I'm passed the manwhore stage thank you very much).

In any case...I'm pissed, KTTVIP used to be YouTube but got pulled. I have Season 2 on my computer that I found a torrent for, but haven't had luck with Seasons 1 and 3.


On another note, I met a girl back in December and we went on a date, which ended up back at her place where we messed around (though we didn't have sex). I'm not sure what I said to her, but whatever I did it was powerful enough to make her really hate me. She said she doesn't even want to be at the same party as me because of how looking at me reminds her of some negative stuff I said....outside of suggesting she could work out more, I don't know exactly what I said. Maybe it's just the girl...hopefully so. I don't know any NLP, but maybe I stumbled onto something. Playing with fire....
 
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I don't dig the games at all. went to vegas with some friends who were all into that community...one was wearing eyeliner and shit and then asked girls what they thought about dudes that wore makeup. ????

it was pretty funny though, we were at a club and everyone thought we were rock stars...literally. don't know how many times people went up to our table to ask us if we had blow. hah.

its funny, but kind of sad at the same time. It does get results at times, but still kind of strange.
 
BalancedMan said:
Lots of girls go out and dance, so it's possible to meet quality girls. Just realize that most hot girls have been hit on their entire life, and it's tough for that to happen and for them to stay modest and cool. It's called the Bitch Shield.
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we meet a lot of girls. just the more you talk to them, the more you realize that the majority of them are crazy, in general. Some of the more low key lounges and shit is what i prefer nowadays....like hotel bars and restaurants with bars in them.
 
AgentDrazenPetrovic said:
I don't dig the games at all. went to vegas with some friends who were all into that community...one was wearing eyeliner and shit and then asked girls what they thought about dudes that wore makeup. ????

it was pretty funny though, we were at a club and everyone thought we were rock stars...literally. don't know how many times people went up to our table to ask us if we had blow. hah.

its funny, but kind of sad at the same time. It does get results at times, but still kind of strange.
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I've never worn eyeliner and never done anything that you would call peacocking, or wearing the outlandish clothes. I'm usually wearing a t-shirt or a button up. I feel like at this point you're pretty likely to get called out for wearing something that ridiculous, and it isn't congruent with me so I can't pull it off effectively.

I don't want to be a "PUA". I want to be a "Natural". I have friends in college that can get any girl. I know a few like that, some I've lived with. I understand exactly how it works, even if they don't (and most tend to be decent looking, good athletes, etc. regardless). I'm not the best looking, but I know how to play the game.

Based on the definition of "Natural", I'll never be one. But I'd rather be something closer to that then what most PUA's consider their rocker look. Unfortunately it just doesn't work well on me to wear leather wrist bands and necklaces and any kind of hat, really.

There's nothing better than choosing the girl you want AND having her choose you back.
 
yeah, its pretty rediculous. I can spot people out when they're out "sarging". Being a natural is better, just try to be the best person you can be, be social, successful and know what you want and the pieces fall into place pretty readily.
 
AgentDrazenPetrovic said:
we meet a lot of girls. just the more you talk to them, the more you realize that the majority of them are crazy, in general. Some of the more low key lounges and shit is what i prefer nowadays....like hotel bars and restaurants with bars in them.
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ALL girls are crazy...or at least 99% of them. They live much more on their emotions (maybe that explains the true cause of the Glass Ceiling) and are more likely to analyze the shit of (why didn't he call) than guys do. Girls have told me this.

It seems strange to me, because I'm definitely OCD, impatient, and over analyze my interactions with girls. I come off as too-needy or I'm trying too hard...I certainly used to and I'm not immune to doing it still.

Guys want sex. Girls want to be loved. Most of the time that's how it is, enough to call it a rule. There are evolutionary reasons for this type of behavior even. It's wired into us. Unfortunately for most guys, the 90/10 or 80/20 rule appears to work here. Meaning 90% of the sex is had by 10% of the men...or at least 80% of the sex is had by only 20% of the men. I certainly think the later holds up to reality.

The question is what side of that equation do you want to be on? To quote David DeAngelo "Attraction isn't a choice". If she doesn't like you...so what, move on. It's not really your fault she doesn't like you. She doesn't get turned on talking to you the way you do looking at her is all. Fuck it, move onto the next girl. You can't control the girl, but you can dress and behave in ways that allow you to tip the odds in your favor.
 
AgentDrazenPetrovic said:
yeah, its pretty rediculous. I can spot people out when they're out "sarging". Being a natural is better, just try to be the best person you can be, be social, successful and know what you want and the pieces fall into place pretty readily.
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At this point I'll go out with friends, but regardless I'll see a cute girl and my mind will revert to "okay, let's see how I should open this one". There have been a few nights where I was on my game, didn't have to think about it, and had girls literally fighting over me. But I'm still single and looking for action. That behavior probably makes me needy or appear to come off creepy...maybe depending on what camera angle you're looking from. It's one of those things that once you take the plunge and get into a conversation, everything flows great. But if you're on the edge of the pool, wandering around the bar running after girls, that makes you stand out in a not so great way.
 
BalancedMan said:
Surprisingly I haven't seen that. I'll have to watch it sometime and see if I just plagiarized him. Maybe I should have written the script in that case. :cheers:
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Its actually quite good as far as social interactions go. kind of loses that message halfway through in order to make the movie "feel good".
 
"Why do they call you Meat?"

(gulp)"Why do they call you Blossom?"
 
I got married before I tired of the bar scene. I still love to go and play wingman for my single friends. There's nothing more unthreatening than a married guy. In fact, there are girls that make a night over seeing whether or not they can get a married guy interested in them. That's fine by me, because it means my buddy gets to hit on that's girl's group of friends.
 
maxiep said:
I got married before I tired of the bar scene. I still love to go and play wingman for my single friends. There's nothing more unthreatening than a married guy. In fact, there are girls that make a night over seeing whether or not they can get a married guy interested in them. That's fine by me, because it means my buddy gets to hit on that's girl's group of friends.
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I've heard of guys who will wear a wedding ring, because they have a lot more success with girls when they do. One I heard got a divorce but now still wears the ring for that purpose, and others just started wearing the ring. Girls (everyone) wants what they can't have. Married guys are supposed to be off-limits, so for them to get a married guy is probably like us guys getting a hot girl.

Just a thought.
 
I was sick of it by age 20, but then again, I went to college when I was 17 and came armed with a fake ID that lasted until I turned 21.
 
yeah. i know a few married guys that hooked up with single girls, sometimes they don't give a shit.

also, one thing they like is something in limited supply. for one of my cousins, the thing we do is tell girls that its his last night in the US as he's moving to the phillipines (a lie). they are intrigued, then go buy him shots, hang out around us and then we look like the shit in the bar....then more girls get interested what the commotion is all about. its something you've got to try sometimes...its been a few years since we broke that out though. did it at greek cuisina once and we took over the whole place...it was amazing.
 
AgentDrazenPetrovic said:
yeah. i know a few married guys that hooked up with single girls, sometimes they don't give a shit.

also, one thing they like is something in limited supply. for one of my cousins, the thing we do is tell girls that its his last night in the US as he's moving to the phillipines (a lie). they are intrigued, then go buy him shots, hang out around us and then we look like the shit in the bar....then more girls get interested what the commotion is all about. its something you've got to try sometimes...its been a few years since we broke that out though. did it at greek cuisina once and we took over the whole place...it was amazing.
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Yup that's another staple. "Hey it's my last night in town". Because the girls will hook up and not worry that you'll be around to hassle them. They can have sex and not worry about repercussions. When I lived in Denmark I met a girl about two weeks before I left. I sent her a few texts and never heard back, and didn't expect to. On the last night I was at a club with some friends and sent her a message telling her "last chance". I end up meeting up with her at 4am, we go back to her parents house at 5:30am, and I wake up at 10am to scurry across town to get my bags and head to the airport. Quite a night.
 
maxiep said:
I got married before I tired of the bar scene. I still love to go and play wingman for my single friends. There's nothing more unthreatening than a married guy. In fact, there are girls that make a night over seeing whether or not they can get a married guy interested in them. That's fine by me, because it means my buddy gets to hit on that's girl's group of friends.
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The limited amount of times that I've been to an unfamiliar bar/club, I've found that at 30 and married I seem to be approached by many, many more women than when I was 25. :dunno:
 
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