So Far... Is this Lillard's Best Season Yet?

[BigGameDamian]

Its CJ that is the turnover machine on this team.

 

[PtldPlatypus]

Its CJ that is the turnover machine on this team.

 

[GrandJury]

Its CJ that is the turnover machine on this team.

But yet he’s averaging 22 ppg while shooting 45% from the field and a blistering 52% from 3s

 

[Boob-No-More]

Its CJ that is the turnover machine on this team.

No he's not and its not even close. Where do you get this stupid shit? C.J. is second on the team in minutes played, but 4th in TOV/game. He's 8th on the team in TOV per 100 possessions and 11th in TOV%.

His TOV,% of 8.4 is extremely GOOD for someone who handles the ball as much as he does. Dame is at 11.4 (still very good), Nurk is at 17.3 and Turner is at 19.6 (yuck).

You're post is an idiot.

BNM

 

[Boob-No-More]

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Beat me to it!

BNM

 

[Strenuus]

Its CJ that is the turnover machine on this team.

You are going to get so roast----

Oh, you did. Good.

 

[H.C.]

Well I think it's a combination of things.
Lillard is focusing on defense more.
It's on the coaching staff & Lillard that he's improved on the defensive end imo. Credit where it's due.
Now if they could only get CJ to stop dying on picks Portland wouldn't be half bad.

 

[H.C.]

Oh, Coaching staff also put nurk in better positions instead of just throwing the ball into him and expecting him to score.
Nurk isn't Aldridge, he's a true pick and roll big. Let the big man roll and have Lillard find him.
Wasn't much of this to start the year, but the last couple games there has been a lot more rolling.
Credit where it's due.

There are other things I can question the coaching staff on.

 

[PtldPlatypus]

Beat me to it!

BNM

Only because I chose not to expound as you did (eloquently). I figured the numbers were self-explanatory, but our responses were complementary

 

[bodyman5000 and 1]

No he's not and its not even close. Where do you get this stupid shit? C.J. is second on the team in minutes played, but 4th in TOV/game. He's 8th on the team in TOV per 100 possessions and 11th in TOV%.

His TOV,% of 8.4 is extremely GOOD for someone who handles the ball as much as he does. Dame is at 11.4 (still very good), Nurk is at 17.3 and Turner is at 19.6 (yuck).

You're post is an idiot.

BNM

Watch the games. CJ sneaks up behind teammates and yells BOO and scares them into turnovers. Duh

 

[GDiama]

None of those are locks.

Ok let alone the rest (we disagree anyeay) but are you SO naive to say Westbrook will not be an All Star? Cmon that's craziness.

 

[andalusian]

Its CJ that is the turnover machine on this team.

Garbage In, Garbage Out. Use better data.

 

[Boob-No-More]

Garbage In, Garbage Out. Use better data.

The data isn't the problem. It's the algorithm. 4 years worth of data shows C.J. is not at all turnover prone. I think the bot has a bug in its floating point unit.

BNM

 

[BonesJones]

Lillard's a better shooter than his numbers suggests. If he limited those 30ft chuckers and the and-1 attempts, his 3pt % should be around .400 like other elite shooters. But I guess elite shooting should include shot selection and he's shown that he's not very good at that still.

The "And-1" attempts are getting him to the line more than ever.

 

[SportsAndWhine]

The "And-1" attempts are getting him to the line more than ever.

His free throw attempt rate is elite this year. He's getting the superstar calls.

 

[BBert]

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Man you're fast

 

[kjironman1]

You are too new for me to officially LIKE your post, but go on with your day knowing The HCP agrees with this.

I fucking liked it for you then.

 

[BonesJones]

His free throw attempt rate is elite this year. He's getting the superstar calls.

I think he's quicker this year which is leading to more fouls from the defense.

 

[BonesJones]

Agreed on all counts. I know PER gets shit on around here, and I understand why, but it still does a decent job of capturing overall offensive production (even if it shortchanges defensive impact) - especially when you also consider it in combination with other advanced stats such as WS/48, BPM, etc.

In spite of his poor 3FG% (which should improve over the course of the season), Dame's TS% of .582 is only .004 off his career high. His low 3FG% is largely offset by the fact that he is getting to the one a LOT more (FTr = .454, previous career high = .366) and making his FTs at a career high FT% of .932 (previous career high = .895).

His ORB%, TRB% and BLK% are all currently career highs, and his AST% and STL% are also close to his previous bests and his TOV% is near his career low.

Add it all up and it's easy to see why his current PER of 26.8 is his best, so far.

For those who don't understand all of those acronyms and abbreviations, all it really means is Lillard's total production is his best to date, because he's getting to the line more, knocking down his FTs, he's rebounding and passing well and not turning the ball over. He's also getting a lot of steals and blocks at the other end, a sign of his increased defensive intensity.

If he can keep this up, and get his 3FG% up near his career average, this will be his best overall season to date.

BNM

What would you say is his best case scenario for statistical output this season?
I'd say
28.5ppg
7.0ast
5.5reb
45.5 FG%
38 3pt%
92 FT%

Combined with solid defense, I'd have to think that'd make him a top 7/8 player in this league.

 

[kjironman1]

What would you say is his best case scenario for statistical output this season?
I'd say
28.5ppg
7.0ast
5.5reb
45.5 FG%
38 3pt%
92 FT%

Combined with solid defense, I'd have to think that'd make him a top 7/8 player in this league.

Id say his most likely scenario is Dame Good! His Best Case Scenario is REALLY DAME GOOD!

 

[THE HCP]

What would you say is his best case scenario for statistical output this season?
I'd say
28.5ppg
7.0ast
5.5reb
45.5 FG%
38 3pt%
92 FT%

Combined with solid defense, I'd have to think that'd make him a top 7/8 player in this league.

And STILL not make the all-star team.

 

[BrianFromWA]

The data isn't the problem. It's the algorithm. 4 years worth of data shows C.J. is not at all turnover prone. I think the bot has a bug in its floating point unit.

BNM

 

[BonesJones]

And STILL not make the all-star team.

Which haters will use to discredit him SMH.

 

[Nate]

I think he's quicker this year which is leading to more fouls from the defense.

Probably because of his diet. I switched to a diet where I don’t eat commercial processed meats/animal-products. The only animal products I eat are eggs, and I have some fish my friend caught in Alaska. Other than that, vegan diet. I feel a lot better.

And I’m sure his chef has him on a way better diet than me.

 

[THE HCP]

Which haters will use to discredit him SMH.

Why would you let that even bug you? Anybody with common sense knows that being an "all-star" doesn't mean shit anymore. Looks good on the career resume', but when the fans are voting, it's never going to be a true measuring stick to players greatness.

 

[jlprk]

The data isn't the problem. It's the algorithm. 4 years worth of data shows C.J. is not at all turnover prone. I think the bot has a bug in its floating point unit.

The turnover stat doesn't include Butterfingers errors.

Every time McCollum raises his arms to intercept a rebound or pass, the ball bounces off his fingers to the other team. The turnover stat definition doesn't include such mistakes, but should, somehow. Watch for it, about 6-8 times per game. He should just stay away from any ball sailing by his vicinity.

 

[BonesJones]

Why would you let that even bug you? Anybody with common sense knows that being an "all-star" doesn't mean shit anymore. Looks good on the career resume', but when the fans are voting, it's never going to be a true measuring stick to players greatness.

Doesn't really bug me, just gets annoying at times

 

[SlyPokerDog]

 

[kjironman1]

Take note of the names that are not on that list at all. One happens to be the reigning MVP

 

[dviss1]

His free throw attempt rate is elite this year. He's getting the superstar calls.

They still miss those. He's not getting the "superstar" calls.

The calls he gets are actually earned. There have only been a few that I questioned as being bad calls.