Politics So he's not racist huh??

[jonnyboy]

Foolish. Her claiming to be part Native (most of us are) means he needs to deride her heritage????

I think it's hilarious how y'all scramble to defend this piece of shit...

I'm not so interested in defending his reputation. We all know he's a big mouth. I just think alot of these hysterical claims of racism are flimsy at best. And in turn, these flimsly claims are what people use to justify calling people they disagree with pieces of shit. It's just nitpicking bullshit. When he does something legitimately racist I'll have no problem acknowledging it. Lemme know when that happens.

Jokingly calling a white politician 'pocahontas' after she attempts a cheap exploitation of natives doesn't do it for me.

 

[The Professional Fan]

4 more years of snowflake tears is enough for my vote

I think it's time to retire the snowflake insult, dude. We're not the ones chucking coffee machines out our windows like babies. How a republican can call a dem a snowflake without seeing the insane hypocrisy is amazing. Par for the course I guess. I've never seen bigger hypocrites than republicans. So glad I left the party. Disgraceful.

 

[bodyman5000 and 1]

Foolish. Her claiming to be part Native (most of us are) means he needs to deride her heritage????

I think it's hilarious how y'all scramble to defend this piece of shit...

I think it is hilarious that he is clearly a piece of shit and ONCE AGAIN you have to make up stuff to throw at him. Or at least live in denial of the point he was so unnecessarily trying to make.

For the last time he THINKS SHE ISN'T NATIVE AMERICAN.

 

[Fez Hammersticks]

What's worse than that is he held this presser directly under a portrait of Thomas Jefferson - who enacted the Indian removal act.

 

[barfo]

If Trump clamed to be some minute fraction native American that shit would be on SNL and every other late night show being hosed with Indian puns.

Uhm, he did. See post #14.

barfo

 

[GriLtCheeZ]

I thought the knock against Warren is that used her supposed Native American heritage to get herself elected to the board of some college as a "minority", but the truth is that her family is likely not Native at all, and in fact was complicit in dislocating some native people from the area her family is from. That is just off of memory I may be completely wrong.

"Grandma has high cheek bones, so our family must be part native."

 

[MARIS61]

So would it be racist if the president with disdain referred to me as "Jerome"?

Figure it the fuck out...

Not by any conceivable leap, no.

Unless you went around deliberately lying that you had Greek blood in your veins, as a way to solicit minority votes and the millions of dollars that come from being a Senator like Warren did.

Oh, wait, STILL not racist.

 

[dviss1]

I'm not so interested in defending his reputation. We all know he's a big mouth. I just think alot of these hysterical claims of racism are flimsy at best. And in turn, these flimsly claims are what people use to justify calling people they disagree with pieces of shit. It's just nitpicking bullshit. When he does something legitimately racist I'll have no problem acknowledging it. Lemme know when that happens.

Jokingly calling a white politician 'pocahontas' after she attempts a cheap exploitation of natives doesn't do it for me.

PROVE IT FALSE.

And shame on all of you. Racism is ok in y'alls book... Calling someone Pocahontas is RACIST through and through....

 

[dviss1]

Not by any conceivable leap, no.

Unless you went around deliberately lying that you had Greek blood in your veins, as a way to solicit minority votes and the millions of dollars that come from being a Senator like Warren did.

Oh, wait, STILL not racist.

I'm truly not asking your opinion on this one. I know where you stand..

 

[MARIS61]

How is that racist? Is Pocahontas a racial slur now?

Seems like a compliment:

Pocahontas
image: http://cdn.thinkbabynames.com/img/play.png

as a girls' name is of Native American Indian origin, and the meaning of Pocahontas is "playful".

Read more at http://www.thinkbabynames.com/meaning/0/Pocahontas#y2cdxKRRZJ2aTl9L.99

 

[MARIS61]

PROVE IT FALSE.

And shame on all of you. Racism is ok in y'alls book... Calling someone Pocahontas is RACIST through and through....

What part of "SHE'S NOT A FUCKING CHEROKEE DON'T YOU UNDERSTAND?"

If she was, then it might be racist, but probably not. More likely it would be insulting simply because Pocahontas was an Alonquin, not a Cherokee, and because she sold out her tribe, married a rich white guy, and became her time period's Kim Kardashian.

 

[MARIS61]

I'm truly not asking your opinion on this one. I know where you stand..

That's okay, I hate to see you flailing about without the REAL FACTS.

No charge.

 

[MARIS61]

Warren has gone to ridiculous lengths to perpetuate her fraud, including plagiarizing "family recipes"
In 2012 Breitbart News exhaustively documented the facts surrounding Senator Warren’s claims of Native American ancestry and demonstrated that no credible evidence exists to support those claims. But lack of genealogical evidence has never stopped Senator Warren from boldly asserting as fact something which is flatly not true.

In May 2012, Warren’s campaign offered two pieces of evidence, both quickly debunked, in a futile effort to prove her claim.

One piece of debunked evidence was her inclusion of Warren “family recipes” in thePow Wow Chow Cookbook, published by the Five Civilized Tribes Museum of Muskogee, Oklahama in 1984. The book’s publishers claimed all the recipes in the book were contributed by descendants of the five civilized tribes–Cherokee, Chickasaw, Choctaw, Creek and Seminole.

Each recipe contributor identified the tribe from which he or she claimed to descend. In Senator Warren’s case, she claimed to descend from the Cherokee tribe in each of her published recipes.

Two of the recipes contributed by Senator Warren as evidence of her Cherokee heritage and published in the Pow Wow Chow Cookbook, “Cold Omelets with Crab Meat” and “Crab with Tomato Mayonnaise Dressing” were copied from a 1979 New York Times News Service article by Pierre Franey.

A second piece of debunked evidence, a purported 1894 marriage license application which was said to list her great-great-grandmother as a Native American, was demonstrated not to exist.

Breitbart News and a noted Cherokee genealogist have documented there is no evidence to support Senator Warren’s claim of Cherokee ancestry. There is evidence, however, that shows Senator Warren’s great-great-great grandfather, Jonathan Crawford, was a member of the Tennessee militia in the 1830s who rounded up the local Cherokee as the first step in their forced “Trail of Tears” journey to Oklahoma.

http://www.breitbart.com/big-govern...aims-of-native-american-ancestry-in-new-book/

SIMPLE ENOUGH TO PROVE/DISPROVE, BUT WARREN REFUSES TO TAKE DNA TEST.

Republican Scott Brown made Elizabeth Warren’s claims of Native American heritage a campaign issue when he ran against her in the 2012 Massachusetts Senate race, said The Washington Post. He suggested that Warren take a DNA test to settle the claims, The Post said. Brown revived the criticisms in 2016; there is no evidence that Warren has taken such a test.

http://www.businessinsider.com/donald-trump-elizabeth-warren-pocahontas-history-2017-11

 

[rasheedfan2005]

You voted for a racist and you don't care. Funny...

Ive actually never voted if we are being honest. I'm a principaled person and refuse to vote for idiot scum bags, thus i dont vote, because all politicians are idiot scum bags. Sure, i think trump was the lesser of 2 evils, but that's never been motivation for me to vote.

 

[rasheedfan2005]

I think it's time to retire the snowflake insult, dude. We're not the ones chucking coffee machines out our windows like babies. How a republican can call a dem a snowflake without seeing the insane hypocrisy is amazing. Par for the course I guess. I've never seen bigger hypocrites than republicans. So glad I left the party. Disgraceful.

Look mommy i caught a snowflake on my tongue

 

[The Professional Fan]

Look mommy i caught a snowflake on my tongue

Well she caught my dick so it’s only fair

 

[tlongII]

So would it be racist if the president with disdain referred to me as "Jerome"?

Figure it the fuck out...

Would it be racist if he referred to you as Denzel Washington? That's a more apt comparison.

 

[jonnyboy]

PROVE IT FALSE.

And shame on all of you. Racism is ok in y'alls book... Calling someone Pocahontas is RACIST through and through....

Dude, how about you PROVE IT TRUE. We're 3 pages into YOUR thread and you haven't managed to do so.
And shame on anyone who arbitrarily throws around accusations of racism to prove a point. It seems the list of racist sympathizers on this forum is ever- expanding the longer this thread gets. Sorry but I'm not buying it.

 

[jonnyboy]

Uhm, he did. See post #14.

barfo

A quote of Trump talking about the subject in question, after the fact? Wow. Bombshell. If you willfully ignore the context of something it makes it hard to have any type of honest discourse.

 

[BrianFromWA]

Just to add info to the thread without jumping in, Snopes took a look at the question dviss is asking. (Caveat: I generally don't go to snopes, b/c I have found them biased in certain questions, but it's the first one I found in a limited lookup of my recollections) https://www.snopes.com/politics/politicians/warren.asp

I don't know that anything PROVES SHE IS or PROVES SHE ISN'T (b/c as someone pointed out, she either hasn't taken or hasn't released a DNA test), but in her own words she identified as "white" on her college admissions and then as a Native American while applying for a professor position (and after she earned one).

The legitimacy of Warren’s claims to Native American heritage has certainly been challenged by many critics, and it is true that while Warren was at U. Penn. Law School she put herself on the “Minority Law Teacher” list as Native American) in the faculty directory of the Association of American Law Schools, and that Harvard Law School at one time promoted Warren as a Native American faculty member...
The Globe obtained a portion of Warren’s application to Rutgers, which asks if prospective students want to apply for admission under the school’s Program for Minority Group Students. Warren answered “no.”For her employment documents at the University of Texas, Warren indicated that she was “white.”
But Penn’s 2005 Minority Equity Report identified her as the recipient of a 1994 faculty award, listing her name in bold to signify that she was a minority.

 

[barfo]

A quote of Trump talking about the subject in question, after the fact? Wow. Bombshell. If you willfully ignore the context of something it makes it hard to have any type of honest discourse.

Uhm, what the hell are you talking about? The Trump quote in my post was from 1993.

barfo

 

[barfo]

Just to add info to the thread without jumping in, Snopes took a look at the question dviss is asking. (Caveat: I generally don't go to snopes, b/c I have found them biased in certain questions, but it's the first one I found in a limited lookup of my recollections) https://www.snopes.com/politics/politicians/warren.asp

I don't know that anything PROVES SHE IS or PROVES SHE ISN'T (b/c as someone pointed out, she either hasn't taken or hasn't released a DNA test), but in her own words she identified as "white" on her college admissions and then as a Native American while applying for a professor position (and after she earned one).

I'm not sure your link supports the claim in bold. If I missed it let me know.

barfo

 

[BrianFromWA]

I'm not sure your link supports the claim in bold. If I missed it let me know.
barfo

I took the "while Warren was at U. Penn. Law School she put herself on the 'Minority Law Teacher' list as Native American" as identifying as a law student and the "and was promoted at Harvard" as the result of an application. That may be malcomprehension or reading too deeply on my part...

 

[barfo]

I took the "while Warren was at U. Penn. Law School she put herself on the 'Minority Law Teacher' list as Native American" as identifying as a law student and the "and was promoted at Harvard" as the result of an application. That may be malcomprehension or reading too deeply on my part...

I believe that "was promoted at Harvard" would have been better phrased as "in promotional literature Harvard listed her as", given that the very next sentence is "But specific evidence that she gained her position at Harvard (at least in part) through her claims to Native American heritage is lacking."

It's rather poor writing for Snopes considering that the point of the writing was to clear up exactly that subject...

barfo

 

[bodyman5000 and 1]

Let's forget the whole Elizabeth Warren is this or that much native american part and actually look at the meat of this thread.

1. Who says Trump isn't racist?
2. What does this new instance of him saying something he has said before change about anything?

 

[crandc]

@dviss1 , don't you know, it's only racist if the white dudes on a sports chat room say so.

 

[MarAzul]

1. Who says Trump isn't racist?

Don't take the bait. This is dviss. Racist is his word, he uses it when he doesn't know what else to say.
It's harmless if you don't chomp too hard on it. He has called me racist for various post over several years now.
It's what he does. A Sydney wouldn't do it but a dviss does.

 

[bodyman5000 and 1]

@dviss1 , don't you know, it's only racist if the white dudes on a sports chat room say so.

He doesn't want to accept the dictionary so why should we? I've decided you're racist for pointing out we're white. And sexist too. You're 0/2

 

[bodyman5000 and 1]

Don't take the bait. This is dviss. Racist is his word, he uses it when he doesn't know what else to say.
It's harmless if you don't chomp too hard on it. He has called me racist for various post over several years now.
It's what he does. A Sydney wouldn't do it but a dviss does.

I don't know if Trump is a racist or not. If he used to be one or had a change of heart. Maybe he wasn't and now that he's being called one he's become one.

I do know that there are millions of racists in this country and they ain't all white.

I want to know why I should even care at this point.

 

[MarAzul]

why I should even care at this point.

Exactly. It has been over used to the point of rendering the word meaningless.