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MarAzul, would you do me a favor and address the original post and the "situations" he highlighted. tell me what you think of them. Very curious....... Earlier I posted that I wondered how long until this president no longer represents your morals and beliefs or actions. Are you still on the same page with him on the above?
 
MarAzul, would you do me a favor and address the original post and the "situations" he highlighted. tell me what you think of them. Very curious....... Earlier I posted that I wondered how long until this president no longer represents your morals and beliefs or actions. Are you still on the same page with him on the above?

Dammit Curtain, I wish you would make your own account instead of using HCPs. You're making HCP look intelligent.
 
- They can't write an executive order that passes muster, because the intent of the order is admittedly unconstitutional.
>>> I see nothing unconstitutional about his EO. I expect the the SC to uphold the Chief executive's authority on who can enter the country. It has to be this way, no where what so ever
has it been given to the courts.

- Alienating our closest allies

>> I do not know what this entry refers to.

- A pathological liar

>> Sounds like liberal slander many in this forum are given to express. Rather childish, I expect it makes them feel big.

- A budget that is DOA, let alone abusive

>>> More mindless comment from local liberals. But what is the bitch? Sesame Street?


- Health care bill fiasco - especially as Ryan has had 8 years to craft something better than this slapdash bill

>>> I am disappointed that the Republicans were not ready to trot out a new plan for Health Care. And I am even more concerned that they do not get it, that they are imposing a government
wish for the out come on the business model of an industry. Neither of which can work. Health insurance is a business and it has to operate on a model that can be profitable or we will not have it available to the public. Forcing government mandates on this industry for the purpose of creating the desired out come can not work.
They should address the reasons for the escalating healthcare costs and I don't mean Insurance costs, but the cost people see from their providers. Some of the major reasons for these high costs are created by the government over the last 50 years. It is time to address this intrusions and correct the issues.

- A wall Mexico certainly won't pay for

The wall was authorized by congress years ago. But I don't how that opinion about Mexico not paying came about. Quite a number of ways to extract the cost from Mexico.

- Wiretap!

>>> Well it is obvious one of Trumps people were listened in on(wiretap) and unmasked and leaked to the media, which is a criminal offense. Who is going down for this remains to be determined.

- Russia love

>>> Not sure what this means. It does seem the liberals or Democrats are obsessed with Russia. This mystifies me. I can understand wanting to place blame for losing and election but this
is bazaar.

- Most unpopular new president ever

>>> Well not with me. It doesn't really matter either since he obtain more than enough electoral votes to win the job.

So what winning is going on here?

>>>The classical liberal whine.

Maybe this should have been filed under "What a Buffoon" except that that could also apply to the people who fell for his BS.

>>> Sounds like a liberal puke working his jaw, the easy way, tickling the keyboard.

MarAzul, would you do me a favor and address the original post and the "situations" he highlighted. tell me what you think of them. Very curious....... Earlier I posted that I wondered how long until this president no longer represents your morals and beliefs or actions. Are you still on the same page with him on the above?

Ok, see embedded above. I assume this is the post you wanted.
 
my microwave is spying on me bro. It's all real.

My parents just downsized and gave me their fairly new high efficiency front load washer. I foolishly accepted it and now I don't know if just unplugging it will save me or if I have to actually get it back up the basement stairs and out of the house. It's super heavy too... I should've known.
 
My parents just downsized and gave me their fairly new high efficiency front load washer. I foolishly accepted it and now I don't know if just unplugging it will save me or if I have to actually get it back up the basement stairs and out of the house. It's super heavy too... I should've known.

Wash a few bags of charcoal briquettes in it. Trump is really into clean coal so that will prove to him you're one of the good guys.
 
The problem is that Obama is the one controlling the appliances.

You especially have to watch out for the Obamana brand (the Ob is silent, and you'd better be too).

barfo
 
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Reporting Stevenson to immigration ^
 
Starting to think Trumpies' amazement and joy when Trump won is going to look a lot like our amazement and joy when we got the #1 pick and knew we were getting Oden.
 
Starting to think Trumpies' amazement and joy when Trump won is going to look a lot like our amazement and joy when we got the #1 pick and knew we were getting Oden.

What you mean Trump isn't the Center of the Future?
 
Starting to think Trumpies' amazement and joy when Trump won is going to look a lot like our amazement and joy when we got the #1 pick and knew we were getting Oden.


not at all. What you do not take into account is that many of us realize the futility of making any argument to those opposed that would change any opinions.

Thus, I read, laugh and go on.
 
- They can't write an executive order that passes muster, because the intent of the order is admittedly unconstitutional.
- Alienating our closest allies
- A pathological liar
- A budget that is DOA, let alone abusive
- Health care bill fiasco - especially as Ryan has had 8 years to craft something better than this slapdash bill
- A wall Mexico certainly won't pay for
- Wiretap!
- Russia love
- Most unpopular new president ever

okay. Yes, dude is a liar. health care bill is debatable, some like it, some don't. Highly doubt any wall gets built but that's also crazy. The wiretap allegation is certainly possible. Regardless of what these agencies says, why believe them now after they have been apart of so much crooked shit? russia love? no evidence there. Most unpopular president? I mean yeah sure, among young people and people who live in New york, california, portland, any very left wing state. I am not a trump supporter, rather I just don't really let CNN give me my news or any other major media. I do the research myself and sort it out as should everybody else. I think Trump has gotten unfair treatment. It's fair to cal him a liar but all this nonsense about Russia needs to stop. There is no evidence. You understand that the DNC wasn't hacked. Wikileaks got it straight from the source. The only form of any hacking was done with Podestas emails in the form of phishing. It's crazy to me how people can just ignore all that, all the emails, Hillarys proven ties with russia https://www.nytimes.com/2015/04/24/...s-pressed-for-control-of-uranium-company.html

How the DNC fucked Bernie sanders over and he sold out shortly after supporting Hillary. Yeah, Trump is not a good president but he isn't the worst. This whole Nazi talk is fucking absurd. People who scream fascist don't even know what it is. And yeah, the right was absurd too when Obama won twice. I mean, this whole left and right thing needs to stop if you wanna advance society. If you truly want to be progressive, you would look at shit objectively. I can't recall the last president that wasn't lying or doing crooked shit. The only difference with Trump is that he is not a politician. He is an egomaniac who lies and is good at manipulation. Obama was great at being popular and showing you how hip he was and everybody was just obsessed because he would dance on ellen and speak so great. Meanwhile, during his presidency, he completely let the NSA and CIA just gather all the data on citizens they could. They can spy on you through your smart tv's. Real nice huh? or what about all the drone strikes under his administration that killed thousands of innocents. That drone striking is a whole different kind of evil. Something Bradley manning revealed and also went to prison under obamas administration. Obama said he would protect whistleblowers. Snowden and Manning, not protected. You people are just selective. What, you thought Hillary would be better? a life long politician, Benghazi? standing behind Bill clinton and denouncing the sexual abuse victims of his. Back when she was a lawyer defending a 41 year old man who raped a 12 year old, this is the woman you wanted to be president? it's a show. Welcome to politics. They have you all sucked in. You sit and argue over it, families destroyed over politics and opinions. You are falling into the trap. Need I remind you about bush, weapons of mass destruction? you ever wonder why we have been in the middle east fucking shit up for 16 years? constantly in war, making the rich even richer and you guys wanna defend more greedy corrupt fucks. Makes sense
 

I would sort of like to believe this post. But I don't know... This board, this state is way left. It embarrasses the hell out of me to see my state join in on the lawsuit against the executive order.
Just another case of people that will not read the Constitution, have never read the Koran, never heard a Muslim call a hostage a Kafir and demand payment for him/her.

It may take bad things happening among this crew, to enlighten this crew.
 
MarAzul, just because we don't agree with you does not mean we are ignorant of the law, or the Koran, etc. It might be easier to think that, but it's not true.

The executive order is a perfect example: The 1st amendment forbids the government from favoring one religion over another. That's the law. But the executive who made the order is on record saying that the intent of it was to block one religion, Muslims. On it's face then it was unconstitutional. Why do you think it the first executive order wasn't appealed? Because it was not even a close call. I mean, it's Constitutional law 101.

The one who does not know or read the Constitution appears to be you.
 
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not at all. What you do not take into account is that many of us realize the futility of making any argument to those opposed that would change any opinions.

Thus, I read, laugh and go on.

I guess ignorance is bliss...
 
Most of the conservatives are sick of this shit, they are gone.
Actually, I imagined they melted away because they can no longer (at least with any kind of legitimacy) defend their choice of president. Time to cut their losses and run while they can. Also, after carpet bombing those who disagree with them via incessant insults (losers, snowflakes, libtards, et al) they got their feelings all hurt when the "compliments" were returned. Their retreat only underscores their gullibility, culpability and insecurities in this whole mess.....
 
MarAzul, just because we don't agree with you does not mean we are ignorant of the law, or the Koran, etc. It might be easier to think that, but it's not true.

The executive order is a perfect example: The 1st amendment forbids the government from favoring one religion over another. That's the law. But the executive who made the order is on record saying that the intent of it was to block one religion, Muslims. On it's face then it was unconstitutional. Why do you think it the first executive order wasn't appealed? Because it was not even a close call. I mean, it's Constitutional law 101.

The one who does not know or read the Constitution appears to be you.

Take another run at it.

You will find that Congress has the power to regulate who comes to this country and they have done their work. In 1952 and modified that in 1965. In this law, they gave this specific power to the President;

"Section 212(f), states: "Whenever the President finds that the entry of any aliens or of any class of aliens into the United States would be detrimental to the interests of the United States, he may by proclamation, and for such period as he shall deem necessary, suspend the entry of all aliens or any class of aliens as immigrants or nonimmigrants, or impose on the entry of aliens any restrictions he may deem to be appropriate."

Quite straight forward I should think.

But let us look at what you said specifically;

"The 1st amendment forbids the government from favoring one religion over another." Oh Gee! Ouch, that is a foil!

But let us take one more look, specifically at what the !st amendment says about religion;

"Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof;

Now I am sure you can see, what the first amendments says is not what you said. The Presidents order has nothing to do with establishing a religion. It is doing exactly what Congress has delegated to the President, for such a period as he deem necessary, suspending the entry of aliens from a list of countries.

The first amendment is often misquoted and misconstrued.

BTW, Carter, Reagan, and Obama have all used this exact power authorized by Congress.

We could go into the Koran and differences between Religions that complicate the hell out of this but perhaps another day.
 
Or at least, going soon:

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That time line seem a little dated. It doesn't reflect the latest significant data.

"Clinton received notably less support from young voters (18-29) than Barack Obama did in 2008 and 2012, particularly in the crucial battleground states she lost to Donald Trump."
 

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