So in 3 years when whatever whackocrat is running for president says

[SlyPokerDog]

they don't have to release their taxes because Trump didn't we're going to be fine with that right?

That's what I thought.

 

[SlyPokerDog]

I will be because I dont care. the average person has no idea what the tax return is even showing or what it means.

If people saw trumps return, they would shit their pants about things that they dont even understand.

Tax avoidance is not a bad thing. Tax evasion is a bad thing.

Interesting answer but as one of the few people who would understand them you still don't want to see them?

But more importantly, just because average Joe doesn't understand something should that mean our elected representatives don't have to disclose it?

 

[JfizzleBlazer]

Interesting answer but as one of the few people who would understand them you still don't want to see them?

But more importantly, just because average Joe doesn't understand something should that mean our elected representatives don't have to disclose it?

Not really. I know already what it would look like. I have prepared many returns in my life so I have a good idea of what I would see.

He is gonna have major losses from real estate (very common). People will shit their pants. But with most real estate transactions the tax bill doesnt come due until they sell these massive properties. Thats at least one guess for what you would see.

The problem for me is the media are morons. So they will talk about this and that on a return when they have no idea what it even means. I have seen the oregonian try to talk about tax stuff and completely misstate things. Cpas comment and say they are morons,but the damage is already done and people think the oregonian is truth.

I dont really care to see politician tax returns. What matters to me is if they can do the job and make sure america is healthy financially, safe, secure and free. Along with other social issues (like everyone should be able to marry, or i dont give a fuck where transgender people piss).

 

[theprunetang]

Not really. I know already what it would look like. I have prepared many returns in my life so I have a good idea of what I would see.

He is gonna have major losses from real estate (very common). People will shit their pants. But with most real estate transactions the tax bill doesnt come due until they sell these massive properties. Thats at least one guess for what you would see.

The problem for me is the media are morons. So they will talk about this and that on a return when they have no idea what it even means. I have seen the oregonian try to talk about tax stuff and completely misstate things. Cpas comment and say they are morons,but the damage is already done and people think the oregonian is truth.

I dont really care to see politician tax returns. What matters to me is if they can do the job and make sure america is healthy financially, safe, secure and free. Along with other social issues (like everyone should be able to marry, or i dont give a fuck where transgender people piss).

I appreciate your last sentence. But, remember the 1st amendment......

 

[JfizzleBlazer]

I appreciate your last sentence. But, remember the 1st amendment......

What about the first amendment?

 

[EL PRESIDENTE]

They should release their internet search history.

 

[Sedatedfork]

Would have liked to have seen Gary Johnson's internet search history on Aleppo.

 

[theprunetang]

What about the first amendment?

Haha. Maybe read something that will enlighten you about the 1st ammendment.

 

[blue32]

Well said JFizz

 

[JfizzleBlazer]

Haha. Maybe read something that will enlighten you about the 1st ammendment.

I know what the 1st amendment is. I am asking you what you meant by that.

 

[Rastapopoulos]

I will be because I dont care. the average person has no idea what the tax return is even showing or what it means.

With all due respect, that's a really stupid reason.
"I don't understand nuclear science so there's no point in Iran opening its nuclear facilities to inspection"
"I don't understand food science, so there's no reason to make public what's in food ingredients..."

"Make public" means that PEOPLE WHO DO understand the taxes can see them TOO. And explain to you in words of one syllable what matters and what doesn't.

 

[EL PRESIDENTE]

Trump doesn't even do his taxes lol. he just hires a bunch of accountants to try to minimize his costs.

 

[theprunetang]

I know what the 1st amendment is. I am asking you what you meant by that.

You decry the media and don't understand that the 1st ammendment allows for free press. And Trump's administration unfortunately feels the same way. It's just funny to me that right wingers get butthurt about the second ammendment, but blindly turn their cheek when their hero challenges the first amendment.

 

[JfizzleBlazer]

With all due respect, that's a really stupid reason.
"I don't understand nuclear science so there's no point in Iran opening its nuclear facilities to inspection"
"I don't understand food science, so there's no reason to make public what's in food ingredients..."

"Make public" means that PEOPLE WHO DO understand the taxes can see them TOO. And explain to you in words of one syllable what matters and what doesn't.

Why do you care what is on his taxes? Why don't we start there. What pleasure would you get from seeing his returns?

 

[theprunetang]

Why do you care what is on his taxes? Why don't we start there. What pleasure would you get from seeing his returns?

Full disclosure? Like every president for the last 40 years.

 

[blue32]

Why do you care what is on his taxes? Why don't we start there. What pleasure would you get from seeing his returns?

It doesn't even matter. It's just a tool to use to drive their anti trump narrative. If he or anyone honestly cares they would put more investigation into where clintons money came from for example.

 

[blue32]

Full disclosure? Like every president for the last 40 years.

It's not law....

 

[JfizzleBlazer]

Full disclosure? Like every president for the last 40 years.

That's fine. That is a fine argument. But why do we even care? That is my point. I don't care to see any presidents tax returns. I seriously will not care to see any tax return of any president going forward.

But if you wanna see it, more power to you.

 

[Sedatedfork]

Why do you care what is on his taxes? Why don't we start there. What pleasure would you get from seeing his returns?

I would very much like to know how in bed he is with Russia financially. I just assume he hasn't paid taxes in years based on the earlier leaked tax return.

 

[theprunetang]

That's fine. That is a fine argument. But why do we even care? That is my point. I don't care to see any presidents tax returns. I seriously will not care to see any tax return of any president going forward.

But if you wanna see it, more power to you.

I just appreciate full disclosure. Especially from someone who blasts a lot of people. Trump should put up or shut up if he wants to keep on being who he is.

 

[SlyPokerDog]

That's fine. That is a fine argument. But why do we even care? That is my point. I don't care to see any presidents tax returns. I seriously will not care to see any tax return of any president going forward.

But if you wanna see it, more power to you.

I want to see because he doesn't want to release it.

It's similar to boobs, I've seen Mrs HCPs but I haven't seen your wife's. Guess whose I want to see.

 

[JfizzleBlazer]

I would very much like to know how in bed he is with Russia financially. I just assume he hasn't paid taxes in years based on the earlier leaked tax return.

Real estate business people have many years they pay no taxes, then they sell a massive property and make a shit ton. But some of that shit ton gets eaten up by NOLs.

 

[EL PRESIDENTE]

Should that go for every public official then? Its highly more likely they have more vested interest by local businesses and factions versus Trump and his spooky russian connects. Plus on a day by day scale, public officials probably have a more direct effect on your life.

 

[Sedatedfork]

Real estate business people have many years they pay no taxes, then they sell a massive property and make a shit ton. But some of that shit ton gets eaten up by NOLs.

No. I get that. Or he could die. And give step up basis to his kids.

 

[SlyPokerDog]

What if it's because he claims the Melinabot 3000 is a depreciating asset?

 

[JfizzleBlazer]

What if it's because he claims the Melinabot 3000 is a depreciating asset?

Could be. It looks like if he wasn't president he would already be looking to trade for a newer model.

At this point he would probably be willing to sell her at a loss to get the tax write off

 

[Sedatedfork]

Could be. It looks like if he wasn't president he would already be looking to trade for a newer model.

At this point he would probably be willing to sell her at a loss to get the tax write off

I kind of think he wants to 1031 Melania for his daughter.

 

[JfizzleBlazer]

I kind of think he wants to 1031 Melania for his daughter.

Gross to think about since he is Ivanka's dad.

But as a non related party, I totally would give Ivanka the business.

 

[riverman]

I want to know if there's any substance to his made in America schpiel...want to see where he's kept tax havens offshore, how he's dodged paying any taxes for decades...etc...I'm not blindly assuming there's nothing to see in his disclosure mainly because he won't disclose it....if he showed transparency, then people propably would find it boring....create a mystery behind it and makes the public wonder why

 

[Denny Crane]

Not really. I know already what it would look like. I have prepared many returns in my life so I have a good idea of what I would see.

He is gonna have major losses from real estate (very common). People will shit their pants. But with most real estate transactions the tax bill doesnt come due until they sell these massive properties. Thats at least one guess for what you would see.

The problem for me is the media are morons. So they will talk about this and that on a return when they have no idea what it even means. I have seen the oregonian try to talk about tax stuff and completely misstate things. Cpas comment and say they are morons,but the damage is already done and people think the oregonian is truth.

I dont really care to see politician tax returns. What matters to me is if they can do the job and make sure america is healthy financially, safe, secure and free. Along with other social issues (like everyone should be able to marry, or i dont give a fuck where transgender people piss).

It's a little more complicated. The media will hire biased accountants to dig through the thousands of pages looking for anything that can be twisted into a rasta tweet.