So NOW do you understand what I'm talking about??? We are a better team this year.

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HCP said:
We aren't 'better" than last years team.
We had less injuries, that's for sure. We lucked out and had the opposing team we played in the first round lose their two best players, so we advanced.
The west wasn't as solid as in years past.
Last years team would beat this team in a series, no doubt.
This years team would have been swept by last years 1st round opponent, Memphis.

This years team played out of their collective minds! This years team was WAY more fun to watch. This years team was easier to root for with the whole underdog status. I loved this years team way more than last.

That said, we aren't "better", but I would say they had a more successful season considering the low expectations.
Proud of THIS year's team, but they aren't "better"

Hope NEXT year's team is better than THIS one!
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Bullshit.

This team was way better. They didn't quit, they played like a team all year, better effort, better D, and we didn't have players who forgot to show up emotionally half the time. We would have beat the Clippers with or without injuries. Better TEAM.

You're batting .000 this year, give it up. For a guy who spends a lot of time around basketball you're not learning much. And if that isn't enough logic for you, try this: Sinobas and Mediocre Man agree with you!!
 
Sinobas said:
This team might be better than last year's team after the Matthews injury. And last year's team looked like they weren't really interested in being in the playoffs. I've never seen a more uninspired performance than the way Batum, LA, and Lopez lollly-gagged around the floor vs Memphis. This team brougt more heart to the pre-season.
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This year's team would have destroyed memphis in the first round last year
 
HCP said:
You honestly believe this?
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I for one think so. We were going to tie the series 2-2 with or without Paul and Griffin. In fact, they didn't go out until the end of the 3rd and we never trailed in that game against them.

So yes they would have home court in a best of 3 series from that point but at worst it was going to game 7 if they didn't get hurt and Dame and the team would have had no fear in that game. In fact, Griffin was getting worse and worse. He was already injured before the series so it wasn't like he magically got hurt. He was going to be in-affective the longer the series went.
 
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HCP said:
You honestly believe this?
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Yeah I do; we'd figured them out. Maybe they do some super-cool coaching adjustment and make it harder for us, but I think we still win in 6. Blake was hampered even if he continued to play, and that changes everything. If both lineups are 100% healthy, that's different, but totally hypothetical.
 
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KeepOnRollin said:
I for one think so. We were going to tie the series 2-2 with or without Paul and Griffin. In fact, they didn't go out until the end of the 3rd and we never trailed in that game against them.

So yes they would have home court in a best of 3 series from that point but at worst it was going to game 7 if they didn't get hurt and Dame and the team would have had no fear in that game. In fact, Griffin was getting worse and worse. He was already injured before the series so it wasn't like he magically got hurt. He was going to be in-affective the longer the series went.
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I would have liked to have seen that, but that Clipper team was too talented to lose 2 out of 3 to us. Sorry.
 
HCP said:
I would have liked to have seen that, but that Clipper team was too talented to lose 2 out of 3 to us. Sorry.
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It's weird watching the court jester trying to be the voice of reason.
 
HCP said:
I would have liked to ha

I would have liked to have seen that, but that Clipper team was too talented to lose 2 out of 3 to us. Sorry.
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You did see it. You saw them lose 2 in a row with Paul and Griffin. So only reason to be sorry is because you are wrong.

It is just like the GSW series. We get killed in game 1. In Game 2-5 we lead more quarters then they did. If we played GSW in another 7 game series tomorrow then it easily goes 7. We figure teams out the longer the series goes.
 
HCP said:
I think that is what we were debating. I said we would NOT have gotten passed a HEALTHY Clippers team.
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We would have had a Lillard with no plantar fasciitis, and a Meyers Leonard, though... if everyone is 100% healthy.
 
HCP said:
I think that is what we were debating. I said we would NOT have gotten passed a HEALTHY Clippers team.
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That is the hypothetical. We never got to play a healthy Clippers team. Blake was hurt before the series started. It got worse cus he played period when he shouldn't have not because we purposely injured him.

So we can only go with the freak injury that happened. If Paul gets hurt but Blake keeps playing we still beat the Clippers in that series.
 
Last year's team was 10-10 in last 20 games BEFORE the injury to Matthews. They completely collapsed then even having 2 All Stars. They finished 21-27 overall including playoffs. We finished 34-20 including playoffs. As for the Clippers series, injuries happen every year. They got hurt, we won the series. Are the Warriors champs since the Cavs didn't have Love and Kyrie? And I'll post this composition for people who didn't understand my thinking. This is why I knew we were better this year:

First, our two best players from the playoffs series vs the Grizzlies- CJ McCollum and Meyers Leonard- were still on the team. And of course, we still had Dame. Second, the additions were underrated. We got a Team USA center for our draft pick so right off the bat while everyone focused on whom we had lost, we had improved at SG and C. Third, Batum was coming off a horrible year while Aminu was coming off a year in which he, like CJ, had exploded during the playoffs. Adding Ed Davis and Henderson, Olshey significantly improved our bench. Then we had three unknown talents with potential in Harkless, Vonleh, and Crabbe. Two of them became very good NBA players this season though we didn't know that at the time. Crabbe showed signs during summer league though. The only problem with our starting lineup was PF but we had Leonard, Vonleh, and Harkless to compete for time at that position. We were obviously not going to have an All Star at this position though. Then there were intangibles. It was revealed that everyone in the organization including Dame had to tip toe around Aldridge's fragile ego and there was a reported "sigh of relief" when he left. Dame was excited to take over the leadership role and he demonstrated that right away by getting the whole team together in San Diego in September.

Knowing all of this, I decided to do what I rarely do: watch preseason basketball games. I was curious about all these new players and roles. So I watched our game against the Warriors. The Warriors played all of their starters and they were competing hard but we completely destroyed them nonetheless, scoring more than 70 points in the first half. Many people in this forum thought we'd struggle to score this season but the early evidence was proving them wrong. Then I watched us play the Clippers. Again, the Clippers were playing their stars and clearly competiting but we blitzed THEM too. We ended up blowing our 30 point lead and losing that game, but our potential based on the fact that we got that big lead was very encouraging.

I told everyone it was clear that we were a better, faster, more athletic, deeper team than last year and I was mocked and just told "it's just preseason" when it was clear there were very positive signs we'd be a good team. Nonetheless, HCP picked 23 wins, MM 24 wins, Nate 32 wins, and Vegas 26 wins. But then opening night happened. Now, no one could use the "it's just preseason" excuse." We destroyed a New Orleans team led by everyone's presumptive MVP Anthony Davis. We scored 40+ in the first quarter and CJ looked like the guy we saw in the playoffs vs Memphis. The offensive powerhouse I saw against GS and LAC in the preseason was on display in an official regular season game. And that's when I had my "NOW do you understand" moment and was still mocked. Nothing and I mean nothing surprised me about this season.
 
KingAlbertoJrSpeed said:
Last year's team was 10-10 in last 20 games BEFORE the injury to Matthews. They completely collapsed then even having 2 All Stars. They finished 21-27 overall including playoffs. We finished 34-20 including playoffs. As for the Clippers series, injuries happen every year. They got hurt, we won the series. Are the Warriors champs since the Cavs didn't have Love and Kyrie? And I'll post this composition for people who didn't understand my thinking. This is why I knew we were better this year:

First, our two best players from the playoffs series vs the Grizzlies- CJ McCollum and Meyers Leonard- were still on the team. And of course, we still had Dame. Second, the additions were underrated. We got a Team USA center for our draft pick so right off the bat while everyone focused on whom we had lost, we had improved at SG and C. Third, Batum was coming off a horrible year while Aminu was coming off a year in which he, like CJ, had exploded during the playoffs. Adding Ed Davis and Henderson, Olshey significantly improved our bench. Then we had three unknown talents with potential in Harkless, Vonleh, and Crabbe. Two of them became very good NBA players this season though we didn't know that at the time. Crabbe showed signs during summer league though. The only problem with our starting lineup was PF but we had Leonard, Vonleh, and Harkless to compete for time at that position. We were obviously not going to have an All Star at this position though. Then there were intangibles. It was revealed that everyone in the organization including Dame had to tip toe around Aldridge's fragile ego and there was a reported "sigh of relief" when he left. Dame was excited to take over the leadership role and he demonstrated that right away by getting the whole team together in San Diego in September.

Knowing all of this, I decided to do what I rarely do: watch preseason basketball games. I was curious about all these new players and roles. So I watched our game against the Warriors. The Warriors played all of their starters and they were competing hard but we completely destroyed them nonetheless, scoring more than 70 points in the first half. Many people in this forum thought we'd struggle to score this season but the early evidence was proving them wrong. Then I watched us play the Clippers. Again, the Clippers were playing their stars and clearly competiting but we blitzed THEM too. We ended up blowing our 30 point lead and losing that game, but our potential based on the fact that we got that big lead was very encouraging.

I told everyone it was clear that we were a better, faster, more athletic, deeper team than last year and I was mocked and just told "it's just preseason" when it was clear there were very positive signs we'd be a good team. Nonetheless, HCP picked 23 wins, MM 24 wins, Nate 32 wins, and Vegas 26 wins. But then opening night happened. Now, no one could use the "it's just preseason" excuse." We destroyed a New Orleans team led by everyone's presumptive MVP Anthony Davis. We scored 40+ in the first quarter and CJ looked like the guy we saw in the playoffs vs Memphis. The offensive powerhouse I saw against GS and LAC in the preseason was on display in an official regular season game. And that's when I had my "NOW do you understand" moment and was still mocked. Nothing and I mean nothing surprised me about this season.
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Damn, if you were wrong we wouldn't have seen you for 12 hours.
 
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