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What generation do you come from?

  • Boomer

    Votes: 9 30.0%

  • Gen X

    Votes: 7 23.3%

  • Millennial

    Votes: 12 40.0%

  • Gen Z

    Votes: 0 0.0%

  • Traditionalists

    Votes: 0 0.0%

  • Gen K9

    Votes: 1 3.3%

  • Alien

    Votes: 0 0.0%

  • Gen Pirate

    Votes: 1 3.3%
  • Total voters
    30

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UncleCliffy'sDaddy said:
Please excuse my French, but...............Fucking A right!!! Boomer and proud of it. The younger gens can diss us all they want. We got one helluva lotta things right along the way. And did it against an incredible amount of resistance. And anyone expecting us to somehow apologize for trying to truly make the world a little bit better (while admittedly making our share of mistakes) can go......pleasure themselves painfully.
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The people who actually enacted those movements and passed the legislation were born in the 20s and 30s. Women’s suffrage, civil rights. Boomers were young during those times. They lived it, but didn’t DO it.
 
jonnyboy said:
The people who actually enacted those movements and passed the legislation were born in the 20s and 30s. Women’s suffrage, civil rights. Boomers were young during those times. They lived it, but didn’t DO it.
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The Beatles?
The Stones?
The civil rights movement?
The SecondWave of Feminism?
Do you even try to read what you comment on?
That was all boomers.
Might add putting a man on the moon as well.
 
Fairly-Hard said:
The Beatles?
The Stones?
The civil rights movement?
The SecondWave of Feminism?
Do you even try to read what you comment on?
That was all boomers.
Might add putting a man on the moon as well.
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Neil Armstrong was born in 1930.
The boomers neutered the space program.

John Lennon was born in 1940, too old to be a boomer.

Mick Jaggar born 1943, also too old to be a boomer.

Just sayin'...
 
Phatguysrule said:
Neil Armstrong was born in 1930.
The boomers neutered the space program.

John Lennon was born in 1940, too old to be a boomer.

Mick Jaggar born 1943, also too old to be a boomer.

Just sayin'...
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Sorry. Boomers are late 30s and early 40s. WW2
That is exactly why they are called BOOMERS!
War babies. Also the Korean War.
Neil Armstrong was one of many many people needed to get to the moon. One of the most important was JFK! Voted into office by Boomers.
 
Phatguysrule said:
Neil Armstrong was born in 1930.
The boomers neutered the space program.

John Lennon was born in 1940, too old to be a boomer.

Mick Jaggar born 1943, also too old to be a boomer.

Just sayin'...
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Fred Hampton, Martin Luther King, Malcolm X, John and Bobby Kennedy.....yeah...all assassinated...didn't matter when they were born but that happened on our watch as did the Watts riots and Kent State killings.....kids today don't remember the 60s or that the country has been built largely by shell shocked war veterans since the Civil War...the biggest anti war rallies in the 60s and early 70s were led by college students and Viet Nam vets...the biggest environmental impact protests were led by college students and young people...Green peace etc...to only think the elders from WWII did anything to change society is pretty shallow.
 
By the way WW2 started in Europe in the 30s
Both Mick Jagger and John Lennon were born during the war. Baby boomers.
 
riverman said:
Fred Hampton, Martin Luther King, Malcolm X, John and Bobby Kennedy.....yeah...all assassinated...didn't matter when they were born but that happened on our watch as did the Watts riots and Kent State killings.....kids today don't remember the 60s or that the country has been built largely by shell shocked war veterans since the Civil War...the biggest anti war rallies in the 60s and early 70s were led by college students and Viet Nam vets...the biggest environmental impact protests were led by college students and young people...Green peace etc...to only think the elders from WWII did anything to change society is pretty shallow.
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I didn't disagree with any of that. Just stating facts.
 
Fairly-Hard said:
Sorry. Boomers are late 30s and early 40s. WW2
That is exactly why they are called BOOMERS!
War babies. Also the Korean War.
Neil Armstrong was one of many many people needed to get to the moon. One of the most important was JFK! Voted into office by Boomers.
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That's post war
 
Pre war and post war are very new categories. they were never even considered 40 years ago.
They were called boomers.
It’s crazy because what war? WW1, WW2, Korean, or Vietnam? Which war?
 
Fairly-Hard said:
The Beatles?
The Stones?
The civil rights movement?
The SecondWave of Feminism?
Do you even try to read what you comment on?
That was all boomers.
Might add putting a man on the moon as well.
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The boomer generation has a clearly defined and widely accepted definition, with dates to go with it. No, they aren’t called boomers because bombs go boom, that’s laughably stupid.
They are called baby boomers because there was a boom in the population of babies AFTER WW2, not during.

Just take the L dude, you’re wrong.
 
Phatguysrule said:
Baby Boomers were born after the war.
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Every list has been changed from what we as American called boomers 40 years ago. There is a reason for it. Yes i understand if you look at any link right now that the years for "Boomers" are 46-65.
Lets accept that as fact.
Now if you please lets look at what happened in the 80's (Reagan Years if you will) and has been pushed even further by the Moscow Mitch "Entitlement" argument.
First question. Why are boomer dates 46-65 - 20 years and Traditionalists or Silent gen everything before that? Then Gen X 65-76 or 11 years? Then they bump Gen Y 77-95 back to only 17-18 years. Then Gen Z back to 20 years.
These timelines have been changed. They have been changed because politicians didn't want to take benefits from a generation born during war. It was a bad look. So they bumped the numbers and picked 1946 to change the SS benefits and Medicare benefits to save money. Matter of fact the Gen Xers have all changed three times in the last 7 years. Watch what happens next as gen Y starts to get closer to retirement?
These numbers have changed multiple times over the decades and will move again. You can be assured of it.

No the original statement did not call boomers "boomers" because Bombs go boom. That is just the Idiot trying to read again. Boomers are and have always been called Boomers because of the Baby Boom due to the War.
That is Fact.
 
I do know when John Lennon was born. But it was boomers who made Beatles and Stones popular.
 
jonnyboy said:
The boomer generation has a clearly defined and widely accepted definition, with dates to go with it. No, they aren’t called boomers because bombs go boom, that’s laughably stupid.
They are called baby boomers because there was a boom in the population of babies AFTER WW2, not during.

Just take the L dude, you’re wrong.
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You obviously know how to use Google. That is pretty much the first line that comes up. As always you don't know so you ask Siri and start spewing the answer she comes up with. Maybe at some point you would actually do some honest research into something so you actually know what you are talking about.
If you talked to anyone in the 60's,70's or 80's they would have told you baby boomers were baby's born during and after WW2. Today in 2022 you google an answer and it is much different.
I have explained why the changes were made in another post. You are very welcome to expand on that.
It's true. As a matter of fact this was a huge debate during president Reagan's presidency. It fostered some of the biggest debates of the time. In the 80's pretty much every middle aged adult was worried about losing their Social Security when they retired. It spawned the age of the small investor. People with very middle class incomes started finding way to invest for their retirement.
In your lifetime these numbers will change again.. Probably not the "Boomer" timeline as those people are starting to pass. But you can be assured Gen X and Gen Y will be changing.
You can also be assured retirement age will continue to be looked at as a way to make changes.
 
Fairly-Hard said:
Every list has been changed from what we as American called boomers 40 years ago. There is a reason for it. Yes i understand if you look at any link right now that the years for "Boomers" are 46-65.
Lets accept that as fact.
Now if you please lets look at what happened in the 80's (Reagan Years if you will) and has been pushed even further by the Moscow Mitch "Entitlement" argument.
First question. Why are boomer dates 46-65 - 20 years and Traditionalists or Silent gen everything before that? Then Gen X 65-76 or 11 years? Then they bump Gen Y 77-95 back to only 17-18 years. Then Gen Z back to 20 years.
These timelines have been changed. They have been changed because politicians didn't want to take benefits from a generation born during war. It was a bad look. So they bumped the numbers and picked 1946 to change the SS benefits and Medicare benefits to save money. Matter of fact the Gen Xers have all changed three times in the last 7 years. Watch what happens next as gen Y starts to get closer to retirement?
These numbers have changed multiple times over the decades and will move again. You can be assured of it.

No the original statement did not call boomers "boomers" because Bombs go boom. That is just the Idiot trying to read again. Boomers are and have always been called Boomers because of the Baby Boom due to the War.
That is Fact.
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But Gen X ended in 1980.

https://www.statista.com/statistics/797321/us-population-by-generation/

Do you by chance have a source on your claims? I'm not trying to argue, rather just interested in the discussion.

I was always taught in school that baby boomers were born after the war, because that's when the explosion of population started. When the men came home from the war and a period of increasing birth rates was started.

https://www.usatoday.com/story/mone...e-were-born-the-year-you-were-born/111928356/

1933 Births: 2,081,232
1934 Births: 2,167,636
1935 Births: 2,155,105
1936 Births: 2,144,790
1937 Births: 2,203,337
1938 Births: 2,286,962
1939 Births: 2,265,588
1940 Births: 2,360,399
1941 Births: 2,513,427
1942 Births: 2,808,996
1943 Births: 2,934,860
1944 Births: 2,794,800
1945 Births: 2,735,456
1946 Births: 3,288,672
1947 Births: 3,699,940

Overall, birth rates were fairly steady during and before the war. Birth rates dropped from 1943-45. There wasn't the dramatic explosion like you saw after the war.

There is a very clear explosion in birth rate starting in 1946.

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Phatguysrule said:
But Gen X ended in 1980.

https://www.statista.com/statistics/797321/us-population-by-generation/

Do you by chance have a source on your claims? I'm not trying to argue, rather just interested in the discussion.

I was always taught in school that baby boomers were born after the war, because that's when the explosion of population started. When the men came home from the war and a period of increasing birth rates was started.

Birth rates dropped from 1942-45. During the war the dropping birth rates stopped for a couple years.

There is a very clear explosion in birth rate starting in 1946.

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Good conversation for sure. That graph even has those indicators.
My real position here is my life. My parents and pretty much all my friends parents growing up were born just before or during the war. Grandpa fought in the war. There was never “pre war” “war time” precursors on their generation. they were and always called themselves Boomers.
You can even see the way it was manipulated with Gen X. Our government didn’t want a second round of Boomers babies. That’s why Gen X is at 11 years.
There is little on the internet to back this up. We didn’t go to the computer and type things in in 1980 when all this was being looked at and changed.
I can assure you someone born in 1940-44 call’s themselves a Boomer. Not a War baby.
 
Fairly-Hard said:
Good conversation for sure. That graph even has those indicators.
My real position here is my life. My parents and pretty much all my friends parents growing up were born just before or during the war. Grandpa fought in the war. There was never “pre war” “war time” precursors on their generation. they were and always called themselves Boomers.
You can even see the way it was manipulated with Gen X. Our government didn’t want a second round of Boomers babies. That’s why Gen X is at 11 years.
There is little on the internet to back this up. We didn’t go to the computer and type things in in 1980 when all this was being looked at and changed.
I can assure you someone born in 1940-44 call’s themselves a Boomer. Not a War baby.
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And I can assure you there were plenty of people who were in their early 20's in the mid 80's who called themselves Gen-Xers, though they were in fact Baby-Boomers. People's anecdotal misperceptions don't change reality.
 
BTW--being born near the end of '79, I reject both the "Gen X" and "millennial" generation label. I identify as a member of the "Xennial" micro-generation (born between 77-83)--those who are young enough to have had computers around for our adolescence, but also old enough to have grown up in and be able to recall and relate to a mostly analog world.
 
PtldPlatypus said:
BTW--being born near the end of '79, I reject both the "Gen X" and "millennial" generation label. I identify as a member of the "Xennial" micro-generation (born between 77-83)--those who are young enough to have had computers around for our adolescence, but also old enough to have grown up in and be able to recall and relate to a mostly analog world.
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I would be in this category as well based on age. I just follow the official label since there seems to be an accepted consensus.
 
PtldPlatypus said:
And I can assure you there were plenty of people who were in their early 20's in the mid 80's who called themselves Gen-Xers, though they were in fact Baby-Boomers. People's anecdotal misperceptions don't change reality.
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Not necessarily anecdotal misconception.
Here is a link.
Notice the statements at the bottom.
*We occasionally break up Boomers into two different cohorts because the span is so large, and the oldest of the generation have different sensibilities than the younger. In the U.S., Boomers II are just young enough to have missed being drafted into war.

Thinking we’ve got it all wrong? Many people are confused by the labels demographers assign to the generations, and some of them email us to tell us we’ve made a mistake. We haven’t.

In short, the generation names are based on when members of that generation become adults (18-21).

So on this link they don't even go by birth. A generation is defined by when you become an adult.

https://www.beresfordresearch.com/age-range-by-generation/
 
So by that link anyone born in 1940 would be 18-21 in 1958-61. Boomer.
 
Fairly-Hard said:
Not necessarily anecdotal misconception.
Here is a link.
Notice the statements at the bottom.
*We occasionally break up Boomers into two different cohorts because the span is so large, and the oldest of the generation have different sensibilities than the younger. In the U.S., Boomers II are just young enough to have missed being drafted into war.

Thinking we’ve got it all wrong? Many people are confused by the labels demographers assign to the generations, and some of them email us to tell us we’ve made a mistake. We haven’t.

In short, the generation names are based on when members of that generation become adults (18-21).

So on this link they don't even go by birth. A generation is defined by when you become an adult.

https://www.beresfordresearch.com/age-range-by-generation/
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Even in your link, Boomers aren't born until 1946. And this is defined by the US Census Bureau (also per your link). Anyone born in the early 40's calling themselves a Boomer is disagreeing with the US government.
 
PtldPlatypus said:
Even in your link, Boomers aren't born until 1946. And this is defined by the US Census Bureau (also per your link). Anyone born in the early 40's calling themselves a Boomer is disagreeing with the US government.
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Again read the statement at the bottom.
Generation does not start until you are considered adult. Not Birth.
 
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