OT So, That's Your Generation

[Phatguysrule]

I simply used one as an example of a great many I can list. Civil Rights is only one issue as well. Many people fought for and died for that issue alone.
The transformation of the Willamette River was huge in Portland. SOLV, GreenPeace, NASA, Women's Rights, Need i bring up Abortion? The list goes on and on.

But nobody is denying any of those things... Boomers are also killing abortion rights for future generations right now... Boomers also neutered NASA. And women's rights has been a decades long battle started long before the boomers.

The boomers like to take credit for a lot, but really, about the best thing they did was have kids. And their kids have the responsibility of being the responsible generation.

 

[Phatguysrule]

And I don't take it personally (at least not from you). But you just literally described my working life. Early on we (barely) scraped by on my low(er) paying job, supplemented by the GI Bill, so my wife could stay home and be a mother until my sons reached school age. I worked a full time job and then went to school for 3-18 hours a term in an effort to get ahead professionally. It was brutal. How my wife balanced our budget still awes me to this day. If it wasn't for credit we would have went under. When my wife finally joined the work force we still struggled, because kids get more costly as they get older. We were fortunate to have supportive parents, but it was still a struggle. And in the mid '70's inflation was rampant and the job market sucked. Home loan interest rates were in the high teens (we thought we had died and gone to heaven when a momentary "glitch" in 1986 allowed us to finance a home for "only" 9.5% interest!!) Every generation had its road blocks that the previous generations are at least partially responsible for. Not making excuses, just pointing out the reality. And I wish I was going to be around when the generations following yours comes into their own.....just so I can know how you folks "failed".......

And I agree wholeheartedly on the cell phone thing. I did not succumb until just 10 years ago. And in general I'm sorry I did. I love having a computer in my pocket, but if only I could totally disable the telephone part........

You'll be happy to learn that you can definitely buy a smartphone which will allow you to disable the telephone part!

 

[Fairly-Hard]

Never go full Nixon.

I wish we could put current politicians under the same scrutiny.

 

[Fairly-Hard]

But nobody is denying any of those things... Boomers are also killing abortion rights for future generations right now... Boomers also neutered NASA. And women's rights has been a decades long battle started long before the boomers.

The boomers like to take credit for a lot, but really, about the best thing they did was have kids. And their kids have the responsibility of being the responsible generation.

Your facts are a little sketchy here again.
Boomers are not the one's killing abortion rights. That is a political issue that is being supported by the very youngest republicans.
Boomers did not neuter NASA. That again was done in 2013 as a restructuring plan because Congress and the Senate (Both republican controlled) would not fund it. They felt space exploration could be better served from the private sector. Now we have Billionaires flying in space but very little actual research being done.
The ERA was pretty much a Boomer movement. Of course eventually it was struck down but a number of big strides were made for equality.

 

[Phatguysrule]

Your facts are a little sketchy here again.
Boomers are not the one's killing abortion rights. That is a political issue that is being supported by the very youngest republicans.
Boomers did not neuter NASA. That again was done in 2013 as a restructuring plan because Congress and the Senate (Both republican controlled) would not fund it. They felt space exploration could be better served from the private sector. Now we have Billionaires flying in space but very little actual research being done.
The ERA was pretty much a Boomer movement. Of course eventually it was struck down but a number of big strides were made for equality.

NASA was neutered in the 70s and 80s. It hasn't been the same since.

And the largest voting block for Republicans or democrats is the boomers... But most boomers vote republican. And are turning more republican by the year...

 

[Fairly-Hard]

NASA was neutered in the 70s and 80s. It hasn't been the same since.

And the largest voting block for Republicans or democrats is the boomers... But most boomers vote republican. And are turning more republican by the year...

I really dislike having conversations with people who obviously have no recollection of the facts.
You obviously have missed the entire Space Shuttle program.
Go to any MAGA Trump rally and tell me those people are Boomers? Those people are not 60-80 years old. They are Gen X and younger.
Just accept you are wrong again.

 

[jonnyboy]

wish I was going to be around when the generations following yours comes into their own.....just so I can know how you folks "failed".......

You could ask my daughter, I bet she’s already got a pretty decent list started…

 

[Phatguysrule]

I really dislike having conversations with people who obviously have no recollection of the facts.
You obviously have missed the entire Space Shuttle program.
Go to any MAGA Trump rally and tell me those people are Boomers? Those people are not 60-80 years old. They are Gen X and younger.
Just accept you are wrong again.

The space shuttle was a huge waste for political gain and cost many lives. That was part of the neutering of NASA.

I couldn't care less about MAGA rallies. Far more people of that age vote Democrat than republican.

You keep telling me I'm wrong, yet your claims aren't supported by any statistics or historical evidence.

You realize I'm not wrong just because you say I am, correct?

 

[Fairly-Hard]

The space shuttle was a huge waste for political gain and cost many lives. That was part of the neutering of NASA.

I couldn't care less about MAGA rallies. Far more people of that age vote Democrat than republican.

You keep telling me I'm wrong, yet your claims aren't supported by any statistics or historical evidence.

You realize I'm not wrong just because you say I am, correct?

I'm an Alien. I'm always right.
Why is that so hard to understand?

 

[santeesioux]

I'm a millennial, so that's probably what's wrong with me

 

[barfo]

There he's included

I appreciate it!

barfo

 

[barfo]

if only I could totally disable the telephone part........

You can, you know.

barfo

 

[riverman]

I'm one of the last two americans to own a cell phone...held out until retirement to get one....it sits on my desk where my landline used to be unless I'm driving...I didn't know you could put it in your pocket without getting cancer of the testicles....call me paranoid!

 

[UncleCliffy'sDaddy]

I'm one of the last two americans to own a cell phone...held out until retirement to get one....it sits on my desk where my landline used to be unless I'm driving...I didn't know you could put it in your pocket without getting cancer of the testicles....call me paranoid!

How can you get testicular cancer if your wife is keeping them in her purse??? Asking for a friend.......

 

[Fairly-Hard]

How can you get testicular cancer if your wife is keeping them in her purse??? Asking for a friend.......

Begs the question. Does she also put her phone in her purse?

 

[riverman]

How can you get testicular cancer if your wife is keeping them in her purse??? Asking for a friend.......

you're lucky...mine prefers the back pocket for the ultimate crushing power

 

[crandc]

I'm a boomer who has been marching and organizing for abortion and women's rights generally for more than 50 years. Match that record before you say we are destroying abortion rights.

 

[Phatguysrule]

I'm a boomer who has been marching and organizing for abortion and women's rights generally for more than 50 years. Match that record before you say we are destroying abortion rights.

That's not how it works. The largest number of people who vote for the people who remove rights are most responsible for the removal of those rights.

Regardless of what individuals of these groups do, they cannot take credit for something as a group on one hand, then disavow it on the other.

Yes, you yourself have done much for abortion rights, I have no doubt. And much respect to you for that.

But I didn't make any claims about you personally.

Ignoring the facts just to say "rah rah, we good" is no different than the MAGA tards and their delusions... And boomers in general are among the worst offenders. Hence the "Okay Boomer" meme...

Just my humble opinion.

 

[crandc]

I am not saying all boomers are good. I went to high school with plenty of assholes and bigots.

 

[Hoopguru]

What are the primary generations today?

• Gen Z, iGen, or Centennials: Born 1996 – 2015.
• Millennials or Gen Y: Born 1977 – 1995.
• Generation X: Born 1965 – 1976.
• Baby Boomers: Born 1946 – 1964.
• Traditionalists or Silent Generation: Born 1945 and before.

 

[Fairly-Hard]

What are the primary generations today?

• Gen Z, iGen, or Centennials: Born 1996 – 2015.
• Millennials or Gen Y: Born 1977 – 1995.
• Generation X: Born 1965 – 1976.
• Baby Boomers: Born 1946 – 1964.
• Traditionalists or Silent Generation: Born 1945 and before.

And like i have said and will say again. Those lines have changed and will change again. Just because that is what you get now when you type it into google doesn't mean that is what it was a generation ago or what it will be next generation. I also find it weird that they simply clumped hundreds of years of this countries history into "Traditionalists" and have Gen X as 12 years?

 

[crandc]

[QUOTE="Hoopguru, post: 5357141, member: 2843

• Traditionalists or Silent Generation: Born 1945 and before.

[/QUOTE]
Perfect description of John Lennon, Bob Dylan, Malcolm X....

 

[Hoopguru]

And like i have said and will say again. Those lines have changed and will change again. Just because that is what you get now when you type it into google doesn't mean that is what it was a generation ago or what it will be next generation. I also find it weird that they simply clumped hundreds of years of this countries history into "Traditionalists" and have Gen X as 12 years?

I was born in 50 and never recall my folks generation referred to anything other than "the greatest generation". War babies/boomers were the first segment designation I heard of growing up till GX.

 

[Phatguysrule]

And like i have said and will say again. Those lines have changed and will change again. Just because that is what you get now when you type it into google doesn't mean that is what it was a generation ago or what it will be next generation. I also find it weird that they simply clumped hundreds of years of this countries history into "Traditionalists" and have Gen X as 12 years?

I would gladly accept a scanned page from an old book as evidence.

Popular opinion is not evidence, IMO.

I can find no record that these designations have changed.

And anything before traditionalists have no impact on the economy today, so they weren't mentioned.

A generation isn't set at a predetermined date range, it's based on the size of that population and their impact on the economy. That's why boomers are like 20 years and some others are so short.

 

[Fairly-Hard]

And anything before traditionalists have no impact on the economy today, so they weren't mentioned.

Do you honestly believe this? Seriously?
I'll give you two names to look up. Charles Schwab and Andrew Carnegie for starters. If you honestly believe that dribble you just posted i have lost all respect for anything you post. You no longer have a leg to stand on.

 

[YamTastic]

Gen X. Late Gen X.

I'm late Gen X (1977) but because it took five years to get my degree, my experience after college (being almost instantly laid off as the tech market crashed in 2001 and being unable to find another steady job until 2006, no 401k until 2008 right when the financial crisis hit, etc.) is early millennial.

 

[YamTastic]

By the way WW2 started in Europe in the 30s
Both Mick Jagger and John Lennon were born during the war. Baby boomers.

Baby Boomers are post-ww2, soldiers coming home and starting families. Everyone born during the war would be part of a micro generation, though you could make the case that, socially, people who are born within 5 years of the generation boundary on either side get to pick which side they're on. So yeah, in that regard, all those rockers are Boomers.

 

[Phatguysrule]

I'm late Gen X (1977) but because it took five years to get my degree, my experience after college (being almost instantly laid off as the tech market crashed in 2001 and being unable to find another steady job until 2006, no 401k until 2008 right when the financial crisis hit, etc.) is early millennial.

Yes, this hit most people our age hard.

 

[YamTastic]

Yes, this hit most people our age hard.

I like the term Millenial Falcons for the micro generation born 1977-1983; our experience of the culture and economy as we aged really felt like we were stuck between the couch cushions. I had a home computer at age 6, but the internet didn't really get going until I was a junior in college. I was slightly too old for grunge to hit me because I was already in high school, but slightly too young to enjoy new wave because I didn't have an older sibling.

 

[Phatguysrule]

Do you honestly believe this? Seriously?
I'll give you two names to look up. Charles Schwab and Andrew Carnegie for starters. If you honestly believe that dribble you just posted i have lost all respect for anything you post. You no longer have a leg to stand on.

I am giving you the reasoning that they didn't list those generations. I'm not sure how many times I have to tell you that generations are not specific to individuals. It is the sum impact of that generation, their purchasing and labor impact as it relates to their economic impact. There aren't many people of that generation alive, so they are not considered to be a generation worth much economic consideration any longer.

Speaking of losing respect, you are taking this far too personally.