So what do we have to do to beat boston and detroit?
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<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Ed the Decider @ Jan 9 2008, 01:40 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>If you score more points then Boston, then you will beat them 100% of the time.</div>
We could only do this is if we sign a low-post scoring threat. We should try Malone or Kemp. Those guys will make our frontline tough. Also they could teach Sean and Boone the tricks of the trade.
We could only do this is if we sign a low-post scoring threat. We should try Malone or Kemp. Those guys will make our frontline tough. Also they could teach Sean and Boone the tricks of the trade.
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<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (herox42 @ Jan 9 2008, 03:33 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Ed the Decider @ Jan 9 2008, 01:40 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>If you score more points then Boston, then you will beat them 100% of the time.</div>
We could only do this is if we sign a low-post scoring threat. We should try Malone or Kemp. Those guys will make our frontline tough. Also they could teach Sean and Boone the tricks of the trade.
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We could only do this is if we sign a low-post scoring threat. We should try Malone or Kemp. Those guys will make our frontline tough. Also they could teach Sean and Boone the tricks of the trade.
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Don't forget about Charles Oakley
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I don't really think the Nets can beat them. The Celtics are on a completely different level than the Nets are. They'd need to find a way to slow down at least part of the big three, and even when that happens the other two pick up the slack for them or the role players contribute more. They'd have to find a way to score as well. And quite frankly, no team has been able to do that. The Celtics are a committed defensive team and it shows it. They lock down the paint better than any team out there, and seeing as how the Nets, aside from a couple exceptions, are a bad jump shooting team, that doesn't really bode well for them. In reality, I think they could gameplan for the Celtics as much as they want, but in the end, the Celtics are too good and the Nets just aren't good enough.
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<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Dumpy)</div><div class='quotemain'>--They've had NO injuries to speak of. Their top eight players have missed a total of 11 games. Their 9th and tenth guys have played 25 games each, and it's possible that a couple of those absences were coach's decisions. Can this continue?
--It's not just their big there I'm talking about, either. They have very little depth in the frontcourt. They have basically four guys: Garnett, Perkins, Glen Davis, and Scalabrine. What if Perkins breaks down and Glen Davis wears down from the long season? There'd be a nick in their armor.</div>
Well, let's revisit this. Celtics, without Ray Allen or Glen Davis. Injuries. Loss against Bobcats. Hmm...
--It's not just their big there I'm talking about, either. They have very little depth in the frontcourt. They have basically four guys: Garnett, Perkins, Glen Davis, and Scalabrine. What if Perkins breaks down and Glen Davis wears down from the long season? There'd be a nick in their armor.</div>
Well, let's revisit this. Celtics, without Ray Allen or Glen Davis. Injuries. Loss against Bobcats. Hmm...
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<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (ly_yng @ Jan 8 2008, 10:40 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Dumpy @ Jan 8 2008, 09:37 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>obviously I'd rather be where they are then where we are but still, it's just the regular season and we're not even half way through yet. Anyway, it's vital that the Nets get the #4 or #5 seed, and hopefully won't face Cleveland.</div>
I think we're in a vastly better position to beat Cleveland this year than we were last year, especially if Krstic ends up coming back. The biggest issue was our weak frontcourt, but the Boone-Williams tandem is not only a pretty decent match-up against Z-Gooden, but they also will be able to consistently beat them down the court.
Also, I tend to think RJ plays LeBron better than pretty much anyone else in the league. He's just got the right body type for it.
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yes, I can't disagree with you . . . I just think that Cleveland is a HUGE wildcard and could beat anyone if they (i.e., LBJ) have a good week. Same with Washington, if Arenas comes back and regains his old level of play. I think with the development of Boone and Sean Williams, though, the Nets would now have the advantage over Washington. Toronto, Atlanta, Indiana, Chicago are all better matchups, I think, because they don't have a guy who is likely to score 40 every night in a seven-game series. A lot can happen between now and then, though.
I think we're in a vastly better position to beat Cleveland this year than we were last year, especially if Krstic ends up coming back. The biggest issue was our weak frontcourt, but the Boone-Williams tandem is not only a pretty decent match-up against Z-Gooden, but they also will be able to consistently beat them down the court.
Also, I tend to think RJ plays LeBron better than pretty much anyone else in the league. He's just got the right body type for it.
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yes, I can't disagree with you . . . I just think that Cleveland is a HUGE wildcard and could beat anyone if they (i.e., LBJ) have a good week. Same with Washington, if Arenas comes back and regains his old level of play. I think with the development of Boone and Sean Williams, though, the Nets would now have the advantage over Washington. Toronto, Atlanta, Indiana, Chicago are all better matchups, I think, because they don't have a guy who is likely to score 40 every night in a seven-game series. A lot can happen between now and then, though.
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<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Jizzy @ Jan 8 2008, 03:14 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Dumpy @ Jan 7 2008, 10:44 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Not to take anything away from Boston, who have been playing out of their minds, but:
--They've had NO injuries to speak of. Their top eight players have missed a total of 11 games. Their 9th and tenth guys have played 25 games each, and it's possible that a couple of those absences were coach's decisions. Can this continue?
--It's not just their big there I'm talking about, either. They have very little depth in the frontcourt. They have basically four guys: Garnett, Perkins, Glen Davis, and Scalabrine. What if Perkins breaks down and Glen Davis wears down from the long season? There'd be a nick in their armor.
--They may be burning all their energy to try to finish first. Sometimes that backfires.
--Rajon Rondo has been playing poorly recently. Will he bounce back or he settling into his talent level?
--Could they be caught napping by, say, a Wizards team in the first round with a retuning Gil Arenas?
What about the Pistons?
--well, you could say the same thing about Piston injuries. They haven't had any. Their top seven players have missed a total of nine games.
--The Pistons have a solid core, but this is the same core they've had for the past few years and they've stalled out. Obviously, they can be beaten.
--the tandem of Antoine Wright and Bobby Jones can shut them down for short periods and exhaust them.</div>
i think your optimism is cute but the nets have no chance against detroit or boston
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Jizzy, you know I love you bro, but man, you need to work on that reading stuff. I never estimated the PROBABILITY that the Nets could beat those teams, which the way things stand today is clearly less than 50%. But we're not playing a seven game series today--that would be four months from now. Anything can happen bettween now and then--injuries, trades, suspensions, flubber, murder.
--They've had NO injuries to speak of. Their top eight players have missed a total of 11 games. Their 9th and tenth guys have played 25 games each, and it's possible that a couple of those absences were coach's decisions. Can this continue?
--It's not just their big there I'm talking about, either. They have very little depth in the frontcourt. They have basically four guys: Garnett, Perkins, Glen Davis, and Scalabrine. What if Perkins breaks down and Glen Davis wears down from the long season? There'd be a nick in their armor.
--They may be burning all their energy to try to finish first. Sometimes that backfires.
--Rajon Rondo has been playing poorly recently. Will he bounce back or he settling into his talent level?
--Could they be caught napping by, say, a Wizards team in the first round with a retuning Gil Arenas?
What about the Pistons?
--well, you could say the same thing about Piston injuries. They haven't had any. Their top seven players have missed a total of nine games.
--The Pistons have a solid core, but this is the same core they've had for the past few years and they've stalled out. Obviously, they can be beaten.
--the tandem of Antoine Wright and Bobby Jones can shut them down for short periods and exhaust them.</div>
i think your optimism is cute but the nets have no chance against detroit or boston
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Jizzy, you know I love you bro, but man, you need to work on that reading stuff. I never estimated the PROBABILITY that the Nets could beat those teams, which the way things stand today is clearly less than 50%. But we're not playing a seven game series today--that would be four months from now. Anything can happen bettween now and then--injuries, trades, suspensions, flubber, murder.
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Pistons are beatable...Celtics aren't if healthy...but thats a big IF.
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Didn't the Nets start 7-2 at a point once they went to the Violent Bros. line up? I haven't seen an updated record since then, but we definitely have started to turn this ship around, and have ended the obligatory slow start (knock on wood). If we keep with this lineup and build chemistry and then hopefully consistency with player expectations and roles...well I guess we'll get a first taste tomorrow!
