So who just played their last game as a Blazer? (1 Viewer)

[PtldPlatypus]

Perimeter defense isn't really valuable with the rules of today's game in my opinion.

An understandable opinion, but I might counter that the massive impact that Roberson's absence has had on OKC's defense suggests otherwise.

 

[Minstrel]

Perimeter defense and rim protection are the most valuable defensive assets in today's era. In past eras, you could argue for post defense but not really these days. Having four (five, ideally, but that's usually a pipe dream) players who can switch and defend on the perimeter is pretty essential to a top tier defense.

I could perhaps see the argument that, if you have perimeter switchability among four or five of your players on the floor, a wing defense ace is not crucial. That's quite possibly true. The loss of Roberson may be hurting Oklahoma City so much not because they lost a top wing defender but that they lost a wing defender at all, leaving them with only one. Westbrook and Anthony aren't exactly great perimeter defenders and they've struggled to field an adequate defensive replacement.

 

[daddylogan]

To answer the original topic question...I really think and hope Aminu played his last game as a Blazer. Good defender and that is all. His scoring and shooting is way to inconsistent, has no finesse what-so-ever in handling the ball or finishing at the rim and seems to have no emotional drive in him...he looks like he is moping along. Sure, he has had a few bright moments and there was a few games he was actually getting to the rim and put the ball in the cup....but once again, that was short lived and in my opinion his spot is the weakest spot on the team...actually the 3 and the 4 both. I like the idea of keeping Mo around for 2nd rotation. He defends pretty good, can shoot the 3 and has finesse around the rim. If I had money to bet and the Blazers do make any moves I believe Chief and Evan (either one) are for sure in a deal and being they brought "Biggie" up just before the trade deadline they might package him into a deal as well. We somehow need to lose Leonard's contract but not sure that will happen for the same reason he sits on the bench...he just did not develop. I still think he has potential and "could have" been something really good for the team but I truly believe he is one of those players that allows his mind to dictate his play rather then overall skill and muscle memory. With that body you would think he could have been a great post up player...but once again it is in the game smarts that is where a player really excels.... 2 days away!!!

 

[KingSpeed]

To answer the original topic question...I really think and hope Aminu played his last game as a Blazer. Good defender and that is all. His scoring and shooting is way to inconsistent, has no finesse what-so-ever in handling the ball or finishing at the rim and seems to have no emotional drive in him...he looks like he is moping along. Sure, he has had a few bright moments and there was a few games he was actually getting to the rim and put the ball in the cup....but once again, that was short lived and in my opinion his spot is the weakest spot on the team...actually the 3 and the 4 both. I like the idea of keeping Mo around for 2nd rotation. He defends pretty good, can shoot the 3 and has finesse around the rim. If I had money to bet and the Blazers do make any moves I believe Chief and Evan (either one) are for sure in a deal and being they brought "Biggie" up just before the trade deadline they might package him into a deal as well. We somehow need to lose Leonard's contract but not sure that will happen for the same reason he sits on the bench...he just did not develop. I still think he has potential and "could have" been something really good for the team but I truly believe he is one of those players that allows his mind to dictate his play rather then overall skill and muscle memory. With that body you would think he could have been a great post up player...but once again it is in the game smarts that is where a player really excels.... 2 days away!!!

Outside of maybe Meyers, Aminu is the most consistent shooter we have.

 

[Chris Craig]

Harkless played his last game as a Blazer

 

[calvin natt]

Lol. Roberson is a great defender. One of the best in the league. All-Defense. Who cares what he does at the other end.

 

[hoopsjock]

An understandable opinion, but I might counter that the massive impact that Roberson's absence has had on OKC's defense suggests otherwise.

Like I said in the rest of my comments, I think the lack of depth from all the trades this summer is a factor too.

I just don't think in today's game a perimeter defender who has no shooting ability at all is worth that much. At least develop a corner three shot like Bowen had to where you had some use on offense.

 

[hoopsjock]

Perimeter defense and rim protection are the most valuable defensive assets in today's era. In past eras, you could argue for post defense but not really these days. Having four (five, ideally, but that's usually a pipe dream) players who can switch and defend on the perimeter is pretty essential to a top tier defense.

I could perhaps see the argument that, if you have perimeter switchability among four or five of your players on the floor, a wing defense ace is not crucial. That's quite possibly true. The loss of Roberson may be hurting Oklahoma City so much not because they lost a top wing defender but that they lost a wing defender at all, leaving them with only one. Westbrook and Anthony aren't exactly great perimeter defenders and they've struggled to field an adequate defensive replacement.

This is exactly my point. A good one on one defender is fine but if he gets screened and there is a switch it takes him out of the play pretty easily. Having multiple good perimeter defenders IS very valuable. One guy by himself, not so much.

 

[PtldPlatypus]

Like I said in the rest of my comments, I think the lack of depth from all the trades this summer is a factor too.

I just don't think in today's game a perimeter defender who has no shooting ability at all is worth that much. At least develop a corner three shot like Bowen had to where you had some use on offense.

And of course, the Thunder had to play in such a manner tonight as to completely contradict my point. Ah, such is life.

 

[hoopsjock]

And of course, the Thunder had to play in such a manner tonight as to completely contradict my point. Ah, such is life.

Yeah, I don't really count any game against the Warriors as far as defense or stats are concerned though.

 

[LayneStaley]

Lol. Roberson is a great defender. One of the best in the league. All-Defense. Who cares what he does at the other end.

Man, where were you guys earlier when I was getting killed for suggesting Hark for Roberson? Lol

 

[LayneStaley]

According to David Aldridge OKC has considered Harkless or Tony Allen, the problem for OKC is figuring a way not to take on more salary, I guess they haven’t thought of my Roberson trade yet.

 

[BonesJones]

Man, where were you guys earlier when I was getting killed for suggesting Hark for Roberson? Lol

Because he's still not enough to be worth it to help OKC out as well as potentially help their chances of retaining PG... why would we help out OKC in order to swap Harkless for a severely injured Roberson...?

 

[BonesJones]

According to David Aldridge OKC has considered Harkless or Tony Allen, the problem for OKC is figuring a way not to take on more salary, I guess they haven’t thought of my Roberson trade yet.

That's not a problem with Tony Allen, he's getting cut.

 

[LayneStaley]

Because he's still not enough to be worth it to help OKC out as well as potentially help their chances of retaining PG... why would we help out OKC in order to swap Harkless for a severely injured Roberson...?

Because Harkless doesn’t play for us and Roberson could be a defensive stopper the next couple years for us and we aren’t winning an NBA championship this year nor are the Thunder so who gives a shit.

 

[BonesJones]

Because Harkless doesn’t play for us and Roberson could be a defensive stopper the next couple years for us and we aren’t winning an NBA championship this year nor are the Thunder so who gives a shit.

Because Harkless makes us better than Roberson does, and we can find ways out of Harkless' contract.

 

[LayneStaley]

Because Harkless makes us better than Roberson does, and we can find ways out of Harkless' contract.

How does Harkless make us better? At least with Roberson he would have a role to play in the future, shutting down the other teams best backcourt or wing player for stretches. What is Harkless’s role moving forward? Taking more pics at Timbers games? Making Meyers feel like he’s got a friend on the team? What is it exactly?

 

[kjironman1]

Wednesday morning and still no trade?
Wonder who is suiting up on Thursday?

 

[LayneStaley]

It’s gonna be the same guys who suited up against Detroit and got abused. Then we will hear some talk about how the team didn’t wanna mess up the chemistry during the season and is gonna wait till the offseason to piss us off with a shitty trade.

 

[LayneStaley]

Lack of intel on the trade front is getting to me.

 

[PtldPlatypus]

According to David Aldridge OKC has considered Harkless or Tony Allen, the problem for OKC is figuring a way not to take on more salary, I guess they haven’t thought of my Roberson trade yet.

Because he's still not enough to be worth it to help OKC out as well as potentially help their chances of retaining PG... why would we help out OKC in order to swap Harkless for a severely injured Roberson...?

I still like the idea of a 3-way deal with OKC/WAS with Porter (and Roberson) coming to us, Mahinmi/Harkless going to OKC, and various salary reducing pieces and a pick going to WAS. Of course, if OKC doesn't want to take on more salary, then the notion is moot, but still...

 

[BonesJones]

I still like the idea of a 3-way deal with OKC/WAS with Porter (and Roberson) coming to us, Mahinmi/Harkless going to OKC, and various salary reducing pieces and a pick going to WAS. Of course, if OKC doesn't want to take on more salary, then the notion is moot, but still...

I'd rather have Oubre. Harkless, Davis and a 2md for Oubre and Mahinmi makes a lot of sense. For WAS. They shed $21M in going from Mahinmi to Harkless, who replaces Oubre. Davis is a cheap expiring.

 

[PtldPlatypus]

I'd rather have Oubre. Harkless, Davis and a 2md for Oubre and Mahinmi makes a lot of sense. For WAS. They shed $21M in going from Mahinmi to Harkless, who replaces Oubre. Davis is a cheap expiring.

Help me out here--I haven't watched a ton of Wizards games, so why is everyone so high on Oubre? Just youth and "potential"? Or has he actually shown something worthy of putting us further into the luxury tax? The advanced metrics show progression, but are still pedestrian. What am I missing?

 

[illmatic99]

Help me out here--I haven't watched a ton of Wizards games, so why is everyone so high on Oubre? Just youth and "potential"? Or has he actually shown something worthy of putting us further into the luxury tax? The advanced metrics show progression, but are still pedestrian. What am I missing?

He played really well when given minutes and an increased role. And his defense has been stellar when I've watched him so he projects as a two way player.

He's also got a decent enough face up game with an increasingly consistent shot. You could say he's due for a breakout season if given the opportunity.

Stats are identical to PG's in year 2 (Oubre in year 3). I wouldn't hesitate in throwing our first round pick for him.

 

[CupWizier]

Hmm...so a player who was an important piece of a rotation on a team that is ahead of us in the standing is less valuable than a guy who only gets to play if someone is injured? The Harkless experiment is over. Like I said OKC wouldn’t do the trade anyway but if I’m overvaluing Roberson a few of you are really overvaluing Harmless.

I have no problem with upgrading Harkless, but Roberson isn;t that player. Not even sure why this is even a discussion as Roberson is injured now.

 

[Wizard Mentor]

Lack of intel on the trade front is getting to me.

Chill out. Watch some porn, or something.
Many of Neil's trades are made without advanced knowledge by the public, i.e. we won't know about it until it
happens. Furthermore, it's usual for Neil's deadline trades to take place on the day of the deadline. We can hope,
but it's very likely that we'll have to wait to see what tomorrow brings.

 

[UKRAINEFAN]

Help me out here--I haven't watched a ton of Wizards games, so why is everyone so high on Oubre? Just youth and "potential"? Or has he actually shown something worthy of putting us further into the luxury tax? The advanced metrics show progression, but are still pedestrian. What am I missing?

One thing I have noticed is that he always gets a lot of minutes. He must be doing something that his coach likes.

 

[calvin natt]

Oubre is really good. Wash knows it. Blazers can’t get him with throwing a mishmash of players together that’s for sure

 

[Scalma]

Chill out. Watch some porn, or something.
Many of Neil's trades are made without advanced knowledge by the public, i.e. we won't know about it until it
happens. Furthermore, it's usual for Neil's deadline trades to take place on the day of the deadline. We can hope,
but it's very likely that we'll have to wait to see what tomorrow brings.

Yeah, most trades don’t happen until deadline day. I remember couple years ago there were something like 7 trades announced within 30 minutes.

I’m still preparing for Portland either not doing anything, or doing something dumb. And then I’ll explode.

 

[tlongII]

Yeah, most trades don’t happen until deadline day. I remember couple years ago there were something like 7 trades announced within 30 minutes.

I’m still preparing for Portland either not doing anything, or doing something dumb. And then I’ll explode.

If they do something dumb I'll explode. If they do nothing I can't really fault them.