So why did we suck last year?

[AldoTrapani]

Lol I am no where near a Homer around these parts. I'd be leaning more to pessimist than anything. But I will call bs on either side lol.

My man

 

[bobf]

It’s not a mystery. We had really bad players playing significant minutes.
Carmelo BPM -3.6
Simons BPM -4.5
Bazemore BPM -3.2
Mario BPM -2.9
Tolliver -3.3
Swannigan -5.6

We still have bad players (Hood, Simons, Melo) but not as many and they’re not as bad (Hood is worse but he’s one guy).

 

[wizenheimer]

It’s not a mystery. We had really bad players playing significant minutes.
Carmelo BPM -3.6
Simons BPM -4.5
Bazemore BPM -3.2
Mario BPM -2.9
Tolliver -3.3
Swannigan -5.6

We still have bad players (Hood, Simons, Melo) but not as many and they’re not as bad (Hood is worse but he’s one guy).

just a quibble, but the median/generic BPM on a team 7 games over .500 is going to be higher than on a team 4 games under .500

I'm not sure how you'd normalize the BPM's between the two Blazer teams

something else: last year, 4 players (Dame-Whiteside-Nurk-CJ) had positive BPM's. This year, only two players (Dame-CJ) have positive BPM's. On the other hand, this year, only 4 players have BPM's lower than -3.0. Last year, 9 players were worse than -3.0

 

[Orion Bailey]

Because we weren't as good? Because we didn't have as good of players?

 

[bobf]

just a quibble, but the median/generic BPM on a team 7 games over .500 is going to be higher than on a team 4 games under .500

I'm not sure how you'd normalize the BPM's between the two Blazer teams

something else: last year, 4 players (Dame-Whiteside-Nurk-CJ) had positive BPM's. This year, only two players (Dame-CJ) have positive BPM's. On the other hand, this year, only 4 players have BPM's lower than -3.0. Last year, 9 players were worse than -3.0

Do you mean because a player’s BPM is in part based on a team’s plus minus? I don’t see any reason to want to normalize that away. It’s meant to be there. Or maybe you are referring to something else.

If we’re talking about regular season success (WL record) I would say 3 positive players last year given that Nurk didn’t play much.

All in all last year’s team could be predicted to suck based on overall BPM’s from prior years including the positive players. So it was not surprising at all that we sucked. This year’s team could be predicted to be way above 0.500 based on the last few years BPM’s, though I’m sure, given the injuries to Nurk and CJ, we have overachieved by a lot so far. This 21-14 is more like how we “should” have performed without injury, not taking our weak SOS into account.

 

[RoseCityRebel]

Also, a stat that is sobering this year is looking at our losses to "good" teams.

Utah -20
Clippers -23
Milwaukee -28
Phoenix -32
SAS -21
Indiana -23

Getting destroyed by the teams you are going to face in the playoffs is not a good sign. Of course some of these games are without CJ/Nurk. You have to be ecstatic that our record gives us some breathing room considering the injuries, but they better hope to put together some good performances when CJ/Nurk are actually back. The hope is that we are playing good basketball by the time the playoffs arrive.

They also swept the 1 seed in the East without CJ and Nurkic.

This place is so fucking negative. I don’t get it.

 

[RoseCityRebel]

I bag on you a lot... but the playoff success (or lack there of) will rear it's ugly head. It's like a friend's with benefits... in the moment it's fun as hell but the moment it becomes serious it's over.

It’s not you, it’s him.

 

[Phatguysrule]

I bag on you a lot... but the playoff success (or lack there of) will rear it's ugly head. It's like a friend's with benefits... in the moment it's fun as hell but the moment it becomes serious it's over.

I can't wait to get back to the type of playoff success we enjoyed before Olshey, Stotts and Dame...

 

[kjironman1]

I can't wait to get back to the type of playoff success we enjoyed before Olshey, Stotts and Dame...

No Green Font Needed!

 

[Strenuus]

I can't wait to get back to the type of playoff success we enjoyed before Olshey, Stotts and Dame...

Take out olshey and stotts and we have playoff success again.

Your green font lost.

 

[KSF-ERIC]

Take out olshey and stotts and we have playoff success again.

Your green font lost.

How can we have playoff success “again” when we didn’t have it before? When Olshey and Stotts joined the organization, the Blazers hadn’t won a playoff series in TWELVE YEARS. Anfernee Simons was 1 years old.

 

[kjironman1]

How can we have playoff success “again” when we didn’t have it before? When Olshey and Stotts joined the organization, the Blazers hadn’t won a playoff series in TWELVE YEARS. Anfernee Simons was 1 years old.

Exactly.

 

[wizenheimer]

How can we have playoff success “again” when we didn’t have it before? When Olshey and Stotts joined the organization, the Blazers hadn’t won a playoff series in TWELVE YEARS. Anfernee Simons was 1 years old.

Blazers made the playoffs for 21 consecutive years, and 27 of 28 years (the coaches in that period included Mo Cheeks, Mike Dunleavy, PJ Carlesimo, and Mike Schuller). Those teams won 3 western conference finals and a championship. Those teams won 21 games in the conference finals and NBA finals. The Olshey/Stotts teams haven't won a single game past the semi's in 9 years, and they have a .357 record in the playoffs. Normalize that winning percentage to a season and they win 29 of 82 games

gauging the Olshey/Stotts teams by the worst period in Blazer history is cherry-picking deflection

 

[KSF-ERIC]

Blazers made the playoffs for 21 consecutive years, and 27 of 28 years (the coaches in that period included Mo Cheeks, Mike Dunleavy, PJ Carlesimo, and Mike Schuller). Those teams won 3 western conference finals and a championship. Those teams won 21 games in the conference finals and NBA finals. The Olshey/Stotts teams haven't won a single game past the semi's in 9 years, and they have a .357 record in the playoffs. Normalize that winning percentage to a season and they win 29 of 82 games

gauging the Olshey/Stotts teams by the worst period in Blazer history is cherry-picking deflection

TWELVE YEARS