Socialism in France

[PapaG]

He's barely paying attention to you because the thread is about France and Europe, not you and Obama.

http://sportstwo.com/threads/213328-Socialism-in-France?p=2787535&viewfull=1#post2787535

Hi

 

[jlprk]

His 8-word post, probably a trivial diversion to him while he was busy washing his socks, provoked you into a series of posts that hijacked the thread. He's probably done hanging his socks outside on the clothesline, so you may now resume.

 

[MARIS61]

I don't think there will be chaos... there might be continued bleeding of the French economy, there might be another step taken towards political extremism... but rich folks won't march in the streets over it. They'll change their habits, up to and including leaving the country (as you know).

I heard something on NPR this AM (I rarely hear it, but my gf had it going) about how "immigrants build the country" of France. I let out a very hardy guffaw. That sort of thing holds some water in the US, but unless you're going back to the times of the Romans, I think it's hard to really believe immigrants built France.

Ed O.

So you think France has not evolved at all since the times of the Romans?

 

[jlprk]

France is now 10% Muslim. The country feels that it owes Algeria like Germany feels it owes Israel, so they even lessen prison sentences for Algerian immigrants who get convicted of something.

 

[MARIS61]

France is now 10% Muslim. The country feels that it owes Algeria like Germany feels it owes Israel, so they even lessen prison sentences for Algerian immigrants who get convicted of something.

That whole scenario seems vaguely familiar.

 

[Denny Crane]

So you think France has not evolved at all since the times of the Romans?

Do they have indoor plumbing yet?

 

[Denny Crane]

completely, no. I didn't see them directly called socialists. As far as I know, socialism is when government sponsors financial programs. I do believe nobody doubts the USA has aspects of socialism (post office). So, what is your point? Obama has ties to a party that seems socialist? The French President is a member of the socialist party and calls himself a socialist.

Not a very good definition of socialism. You describe something closer to fascism.

It's not about government sponsoring anything, it's about common ownership of the means of production.

Ownership being the key word.

 

[jlprk]

So you oppose conservatives 99% of the time when they use the word.

 

[Eastoff]

Not a very good definition of socialism. You describe something closer to fascism.

It's not about government sponsoring anything, it's about common ownership of the means of production.

Ownership being the key word.

I thought fascism was political ideology like the Jingos.

 

[Denny Crane]

Fascism is rigid control of industry by govt.

 

[ehizzy3]

Oh, got it. Clearly Obama has socialistic roots, at least in terms of his political career. Nothing wrong with that, just not my thing.

at least you can say nothing is wrong with that. Unlike many talking heads who act like you're the devil if you even lean a little socialist

 

[blazerboy30]

at least you can say nothing is wrong with that. Unlike many talking heads who act like you're the devil if you even lean a little socialist

Depends what your goals are. If you want a sustainable nation that can grow and prosper, then there is something wrong with socialism. If you like the theory and idea of something that isn't realizable and sustainable in practice, then there is nothing wrong with it.

 

[oldguy]

As Margaret Thatcher would say, The problem with socialism is that eventually you run out of other people's money [to spend].

Go Blazers