Solar has won. Even if coal were free to burn, power stations couldn't compete

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Last week, for the first time in memory, the wholesale price of electricity in Queensland fell into negative territory – in the middle of the day.
For several days the price, normally around $40-$50 a megawatt hour, hovered in and around zero. Prices were deflated throughout the week, largely because of the influence of one of the newest, biggest power stations in the state – rooftop solar.
“Negative pricing” moves, as they are known, are not uncommon. But they are only supposed to happen at night, when most of the population is mostly asleep, demand is down, and operators of coal fired generators are reluctant to switch off. So they pay others to pick up their output.

That's not supposed to happen at lunchtime. Daytime prices are supposed to reflect higher demand, when people are awake, office building are in use, factories are in production. That's when fossil fuel generators would normally be making most of their money.

The influx of rooftop solar has turned this model on its head. There is 1,100MW of it on more than 350,000 buildings in Queensland alone (3,400MW on 1.2m buildings across the country). It is producing electricity just at the time that coal generators used to make hay (while the sun shines).

The impact has been so profound, and wholesale prices pushed down so low, that few coal generators in Australia made a profit last year. Hardly any are making a profit this year. State-owned generators like Stanwell are specifically blaming rooftop solar.

http://www.theguardian.com/commenti...burn-power-stations-couldnt-compete?CMP=fb_gu
 
Oh Australia, you fickle mistress. I hope one day, this will be about the US.
 
This is such a bullshit article.

"The answer is no. Just the network charges and the retailer charges alone add up to more than 19c/kWh, according to estimates by the Australian energy market commissioner. According to industry estimates, solar ranges from 12c/kWh to 18c/kWh, depending on solar resources of the area,"

Wow! they have to be whacking the hell out of those people to get them to spring for the capital investment to install solar on the roof. Wonder how they come up with the estimate of the cost of solar at 18 cents a KWH? The picture show some solar panels on a roof. Hell that's not enough to do squat! Well run light bulb, sure isn't going to start my planer.

You can dump 30K into a solar system and support very modest electrical needs if you have the room and the sun shine. I don't have room for a $30k system on my boat, only enough room for about a $10k system if I wanted to cover the thing with the damn panels and then I still need a Diesel Genset to get enough power.

Pacific Power supplies my place with power for about 8.5 cents/KWH. Note they project solar to come down to near that at 12 cents. Bull! they are not counting the capital investment, they are using the capital equipment the users bought, the power going back into the grid when the sunshines is significant, but it is on the users dime for the equipment. No one is going to setup a solar power station and sell you electricity at less than Pacific Power does today, it ain't even going to be close. Here or in Australia.

https://www.pacificpower.net/about/rr/rpc.html
 

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