Some gun supports are out of their freaking minds

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The Iowa Army National Guard has dropped plans for urban warfare training in the western Iowa town of Arcadia after being deluged by nearly 100 e-mails and phone calls from gun-rights advocates nationwide.

The four-day event in April would have involved between 90 and 100 combat troops arriving in the Carroll County community in a convoy with a Blackhawk military helicopter flying overhead.

Troops would have gone door to door, asking the town's 443 residents about a suspected arms dealer and conducting searches of homes if property owners volunteered in advance to cooperate.

There was no opposition to the Guard's plans from city leaders. But gun-rights advocates were outraged, and news about the exercise became a hot topic nationally on radio talk shows and the Internet.
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One e-mail from a Texas resident said, "I am appalled the Iowa National Guard does not know what the Constitution of the United States says. ... How dare you?"

A man who described himself as a "Nevada citizen" wrote that it was good the exercise was called off: "It is possible that there would have been some dead Iowa Guardsmen."

Arcadia City Clerk Nancy Schmitz said she had 14 messages when she arrived at work Monday. All were apparently from listeners of Jones' show, she said.

"They all basically left the same message; they talked about it being like the Nazis and having the troops coming into our homes and confiscating weapons. It was very different from what was actually going to take place," Schmitz said.
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http://www.desmoinesregister.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20090224/NEWS10/902240390

This has to be one of the stupidest things I have ever read, people are actually outraged about an exercise that could save troops lives? It's not like they where going to actually confiscate the guns, they were simply going to go door to door and due routine searches with permission of the property owners. What happened to supporting the troops? In Iraq troops went door to door and searched for people or arms pretty regularly (in fact they might still do that), and being able to train for a situation like that would probably save a lot of lives of both troops and civilians.
 
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If you don't recognize that this is meant to be practice for a martial law takeover and dis-arming of citizens, then you're not very perceptive.
 
its kind of random that they would search people's houses for weapons. if you had them, why would you consent to the search?

shit, what if they had a bag of weed?
 
AgentDrazenPetrovic said:
its kind of random that they would search people's houses for weapons. if you had them, why would you consent to the search?

shit, what if they had a bag of weed?
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Then they'd have some new friends?

I'm guessing that most people who have bags of weed lying around don't volunteer to participate.

barfo
 
I'd think that if they had some just cause during this "routine" exercise, they would do whatever they want. What if they saw a shifty looking arab dude with what appeared to be a weapons stack? then it doesn't become voluntary now, does it?
 
Gun supports?

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AgentDrazenPetrovic said:
I'd think that if they had some just cause during this "routine" exercise, they would do whatever they want. What if they saw a shifty looking arab dude with what appeared to be a weapons stack? then it doesn't become voluntary now, does it?
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In Iowa?

barfo
 
MARIS61 said:
If you don't recognize that this is meant to be practice for a martial law takeover and dis-arming of citizens, then you're not very perceptive.
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It was the Iowa National Guard. It's appropriate for state national guard troops to perform law enforcement duties (and practice doing same).

I can understand people being concerned about US troops on the streets here in the US. US Active Duty Personnel performing law enforcement duties within the borders of the US was illegal until Bush/Cheney got The Posse Comitatas Act revoked a couple of years ago.

"Brigade homeland tours start Oct. 1

3rd Infantry’s 1st BCT trains for a new dwell-time mission. Helping ‘people at home’ may become a permanent part of the active Army
By Gina Cavallaro - Staff writer
Posted : Tuesday Sep 30, 2008 16:16:12 EDT

The 3rd Infantry Division’s 1st Brigade Combat Team has spent 35 of the last 60 months in Iraq patrolling in full battle rattle, helping restore essential services and escorting supply convoys.

Now they’re training for the same mission — with a twist — at home.

Beginning Oct. 1 for 12 months, the 1st BCT will be under the day-to-day control of U.S. Army North, the Army service component of Northern Command, as an on-call federal response force for natural or manmade emergencies and disasters, including terrorist attacks.

It is not the first time an active-duty unit has been tapped to help at home. In August 2005, for example, when Hurricane Katrina unleashed hell in Mississippi and Louisiana, several active-duty units were pulled from various posts and mobilized to those areas.

But this new mission marks the first time an active unit has been given a dedicated assignment to NorthCom, a joint command established in 2002 to provide command and control for federal homeland defense efforts and coordinate defense support of civil authorities.

After 1st BCT finishes its dwell-time mission, expectations are that another, as yet unnamed, active-duty brigade will take over and that the mission will be a permanent one.

“Right now, the response force requirement will be an enduring mission. How the [Defense Department] chooses to source that and whether or not they continue to assign them to NorthCom, that could change in the future,” said Army Col. Louis Vogler, chief of NorthCom future operations. “Now, the plan is to assign a force every year.”

The command is at Peterson Air Force Base in Colorado Springs, Colo., but the soldiers with 1st BCT, who returned in April after 15 months in Iraq, will operate out of their home post at Fort Stewart, Ga., where they’ll be able to go to school, spend time with their families and train for their new homeland mission as well as the counterinsurgency mission in the war zones...."

http://www.armytimes.com/news/2008/09/army_homeland_090708w/
 
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