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[GMJ]

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and that "acid trip induced..." thing. Pretty cool.</p>

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Hey! </p>

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[ly_yng]

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Without havning seen this game--thank goodness for blackouts--there's some I agree with and some I don't.</p>

--Richard Jefferson can not carry a winning team. Sorry, absent another scorer, upfront or in the backcourt, he can't do it. Sure, he averaged 28.1 ppg in the 10 game stretch between Jason Kidd's return and Vince Carter's arrival in 2004, and sure he is averaged 25 ppg now, but in both those cases, the team sucked.</p>

Agree, and I think everyone has understood this since then. I think RJ helps MAKE you a winning team, but he can't CREATE one.</p>

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Similar players include Rip Hamilton, Manu Ginobli, Josh Howard and Shawn Marion. Just because RJ can't carry an offense doesn't mean he's not an elite player.</p>

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--Nenad Krstic won't be ready til January and not January 1. There will be good games followed by bad games, then setbacks, then a good game. Somewhere in the middle there will be some revelation about his condition.</p>

Agree, and I'm not sure I want him back next year, anyway.</p>

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I agree with Dumpy on this point - Nenad's a very good player, but he's not a great fit for a Jason Kidd led team. That's fine when he's on a rookie contract, but not at 10 million a year.</p>

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--Jason Collins days as a starter are numbered. His days as a significant member of the team are numbered. His skill set is much less valuable in a league going smaller. </p>

Disagree with your assessment, but I don't know what you mean by a "significant member." Collins can be effective when used with the right personnel, and that starts with Kidd and RJ. I thought that a Kidd-Wright-RJ-Collins unit would be effective, but now it is becoming clear that it isn't the case. Collins does some things very well, but his deficiencies are really exposed unless the nets have the right people on the floor with him, and that seems to now include Carter or someone of his ilk. I'm happy, though, with Kidd-Carter-RJ-Collins--I think that is pretty effective, depending on the fifth member . . . who should be someone who can mesh with both Kidd and someone who can score in the post and rebound. Hence, the Kidd-Carter-RJ-Sean-Collins unit. I think it would be tremendous, although obviously Sean will make a ton of mistakes at this point. If that isn't successful, I'll jump right on the "Collins is useless" wagon. Anyway, in my world, Collins would just play 15-20 minutes a night anyway, so not sure if that makes him not "significant." I do think, though, that if you use him with a unit of reserves he would be completely worthless.</p>

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We'll see what happens when his contract expires. He's still a great deal at 1-2 mil a year for a shut-down defender off the bench.</p>

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--Jamaal Magloire needs an extended stretch to see what, if anything, he can do. If not, he joins the pantheon of Thornski free agent busts thatincludes Chris Childs, Rodney Rogers, Jeff McInnis, Ron Mercer, etc., etc. Thorn and Stefanski are great at trades, big and small. They are mostly very good at the draft. At free agency, they are D-League level.</p>

To me, it's not so much their failure at the free agent game (which is for suckers), but their inability or refusal to look for longer-term projects in young unsigned free agents. Other GMS find players like Udoka and matt barnes and Diawara, etc., but the Nets don't try, instead signing some random vet to a one-year deal, and then doing it again the next year. There's no continuity, they can't improve, and it just doesn't work. As for magloire, he is a bust. he is terrible. He's made somthing like two FGs on the season, can't hit his free throws, and plays poor defense--minus 15 in less than ten minutes yesterday, after Collins held Howard in check. </p>

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Do any teams play free agency well? I agree with Dumpy here too - they should be going for up and coming players, rather than band-aids.</p>

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--Boki Nachbar started slowly last year. This represents my only hope in this category. He has lost confidence and he wasn't even hitting his long shots in preseason. </p>

Wondering whether his summer off has had any affect. Maybe his conditioning isn't as good as it was.</p>

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The curse of John Hollinger.</p>

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--Sean Williams may very well lead the league in blocks. He leads in blocks per minute already and is in 5th place overall, first among rookies. However, everyone should remember he started playing basketball when he was 16 years old and has played only one year of high school ball, three (suspension-shortened) years of college ball and seven games in the NBA. He is going to make a lot of mistakes...and all this adulation of him could have an effect on his personality.</p>

He's fun to watch and that's all that I care about. No one else is entertaining.</p>

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I'm on the bandwagon.</p>

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--This team misses Marcus Williams, or at least the Marcus Williams we saw in summer league.</p>

Well, I prefer to say that Armstrong hasn't been very good, even though he tries hard. He seems to commit a turnover on every other possession and the offense bogs down when he's in the game. For this we passed on Robert Hite? [see my comment above]</p>

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Marcus Williams + Sean Williams + Pick and Roll = OWZAMAHGAWD!</p>

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--Until Krstic looks better, they will have to keep Malik Allen. At the first sign that Krstic is fully ready, he should be dropped and a shooter (Allan Houston?) signed. The Nets are unbalanced.</p>

Obviously Allen is around solely as Krstic insurance. Why the Nets think they need a jump-shooting bigin the starting lineup (when Carter is healthy, at least) is beyond me.</p>

--Lawrence Frank will not be back next season.</p>

I'd rather Thorn and Stefanski aren't back next year. You can't build a team by switching the complimentary parts every year.</p>

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As long as Thorn's around, Frank's sticking around. If Thorn gets fired, I'd hope our new GM has the common sense to keep Frank.</p>

 

[jarkid]

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<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (bling890)</div><div class='quotemain'></p>

i never have any idea wut this guy is saying lol. but still, the nets started off amazingly without colling in the lineup</p>

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Please bling, have some respect. That's very rude and ignorant to act that way. Jarkid is a Nets fan thru and thru, from
Taiwan, so you must understand that English is not his first language, so he doesn't have complete understanding of it.</p>

Just think about if you were an English-speaking person on a message board full of people from Taiwan. And that you had to learn their language, and attempt to speak their language, with their slang, without full understanding. Might not be all that easy to communicate, now, would it?</p>

Please, have some patience with him, and some respect for him.</p>

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peg182, thank u !</p>

 

[jarkid]

ghoti you mean when I am getting emotional, my English would be very strange ? Haha...</p>

 

[ghoti]

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (GMJigga)</div><div class='quotemain'></p>

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (ghoti)</div><div class='quotemain'></p>

and that "acid trip induced..." thing. Pretty cool.</p>

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Hey! </p>

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Really? My apologies!</p>

I really thought I read that from jarkid first.</p>

He must have been quoting you.</p>

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[ghoti]

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ghoti you mean when I am getting emotional, my English would be very strange ? Haha...</p>

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I think if Jason Collins misses one more layup, you might just make up your own new language.</p>

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[jarkid]

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (ghoti)</div><div class='quotemain'></p>

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (GMJigga)</div><div class='quotemain'></p>

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (ghoti)</div><div class='quotemain'></p>

and that "acid trip induced..." thing. Pretty cool.</p>

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Hey! </p>

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Really? My apologies!</p>

I really thought I read that from jarkid first.</p>

He must have been quoting you.</p>

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Haha, my first thought is Poorman's Poorman's Kobe Bryant, but he suggested that he should be Poorman's acid trip induced version of KB.</p>

Yeah, he invented that, but Ialso enhance and glorify that sentence.</p>

 

[jarkid]

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (ghoti)</div><div class='quotemain'></p>

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (jarkid)</div><div class='quotemain'></p>

ghoti you mean when I am getting emotional, my English would be very strange ? Haha...</p>

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I think if Jason Collins misses one more layup, you might just make up your own new language.</p>

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Hum, sometimes when I am mad, I would use Chinese-English to bash someone, haha...</p>

Since I join your discussion, I think I have improved my English ability .</p>

I don't live in America, so I don't know what youguys will talk in life. But I can learn it from the internet by a little.</p>

Thank you Everybody.</p>

 

[GMJ]

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (jarkid)</div><div class='quotemain'></p>

Yeah, he invented that, but Ialso enhance and glorify that sentence.</p>

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haha this is true.</p>

I would enjoy seeing Jarkid's new anti-collins language. There would only be one adjective: sausage liped; one adverb: triple-zero; one noun: cowlins.</p>

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[#1_War_Poet_ForLife]

And I think... who was it? peg?, made up the message board part.</p>

My choice to throw it up there.</p>

 

[jarkid]

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (mynetsforlife)</div><div class='quotemain'></p>

And I think... who was it? peg?, made up the message board part.</p>

My choice to throw it up there.</p>

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Welcome to the warm and fragrant Nets board of S2.</p>

 

[#1_War_Poet_ForLife]

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<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (mynetsforlife)</div><div class='quotemain'></p>

And I think... who was it? peg?, made up the message board part.</p>

My choice to throw it up there.</p>

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Welcome to the warm and fragrant Nets board of S2.</p>

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You are a cute boy, jarkid.</p>

 

[ly_yng]

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (jarkid)</div><div class='quotemain'></p>

Welcome to the warm and fragrant Nets board of S2.</p>

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Now THAT's a slogan!</p>

 

[Dumpy]

I think there's an "r" where there should be an "l."</p>

 

[pegs]

Actually, I agree with the "r". This board does smell pretty good. That is, until Ashy Larry comes around.</p>

 

[jarkid]

Haha... Fragrant and Flagrant, why are they so similar?</p>

 

[bling890]

o god look at what i created lol. damn</p>