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Well first of all, does the time ever start exactly when a player touches the ball? The clock is operated by a human, and there is going to be a delay. But I think it's pretty clear that the shot was made in time anyway. But how can they even have the audacity to complain after the refs gave them the ball back on that bullshit Lillard out of bounds call??
 
Well first of all, does the time ever start exactly when a player touches the ball? The clock is operated by a human, and there is going to be a delay. But I think it's pretty clear that the shot was made in time anyway. But how can they even have the audacity to complain after the refs gave them the ball back on that bullshit Lillard out of bounds call??

They're angry, upset, frustrated and maybe even a little hurt by the loss. They're looking for something to help them cope. Blazer fans have done that too, and I bet if the situation was reversed, a lot of us would say the same thing.
 
I'm surprised the refs didn't call traveling or offensive foul on Lillard.
 
I'm surprised the refs didn't call traveling or offensive foul on Lillard.

I expected to hear that the NBA issued an apology that the shot shouldn't have counted, and Parsons should have been granted FTs.
 
I'm surprised the refs didn't call traveling or offensive foul on Lillard.

He did technically travel. But I take it since it should have been our ball on the other end of the floor anyway. Plus lin took 4 steps everytime he laid it up.
 
He did technically travel. But I take it since it should have been our ball on the other end of the floor anyway. Plus lin took 4 steps everytime he laid it up.
It happens all the time. Hardly ever gets called.

BTW, what are the rules for traveling in that kind of situation? Here's a slow-motion video: Link. You can even make it go slower in the Youtube options. It seems like he's still in the process of receiving the ball as he takes those steps.
 
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It happens all the time. Hardly ever gets called.

BTW, what are the rules for traveling in that kind of situation? Here's a slow-motion video: Link. You can even make it go slower in the Youtube options. It seems like he's still in the process of receiving the ball as he takes those steps.

Not sure if it makes a difference, but I do know the houston tears taste yummy and sweet. Im ready to wash them down with some san antonio tears.
 
If I truly believed in the conspiracy that is the NBA (I'm starting to believe in it more every single day), those story lines far outweigh those of the Rockets' i.e. Howard's redemption, Harden's superstardom, The Chandler Parsons' Experience, etc. And when the storyline is more appealing for one team, that team is probably going to get the most calls and win the series in the NBA

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There is also precedent for getting off a shot in less than 0.9 seconds. The NBA did an analysis and came to the conclusion that the minimum time required to catch and shoot is 0.4 seconds. So, that gave Lillard half a second cushion.

Playing Devil's Advocate, the NBA has to say that you can get a shot off in 0.4, since Derek Fisher did it against the Spurs. But even allowing for a 0.4 second delay in Lillard's shot, he still got it off in time.
 
Playing Devil's Advocate, the NBA has to say that you can get a shot off in 0.4, since Derek Fisher did it against the Spurs. But even allowing for a 0.4 second delay in Lillard's shot, he still got it off in time.

What's really weird is I climaxed 0.4 second after Lillard made that shot.

I'm not sure if that is a good or bad thing.
 
What's really weird is I climaxed 0.4 second after Lillard made that shot.

I'm not sure if that is a good or bad thing.

So, you did not get your shot off in time, but it sounds like there was some hand checking.
 
I have heard daily since it happened about this. "The clock started late" I say the same thing to all of them. Yes, you are right, but had it started as soon as he touched the ball, he still would have got that shot off. The ball was half way to the basket when the clock went off.
 
I have heard daily since it happened about this. "The clock started late" I say the same thing to all of them. Yes, you are right, but had it started as soon as he touched the ball, he still would have got that shot off. The ball was half way to the basket when the clock went off.

Do they realize that it's a human being pushing the button to start the clock? We are human. There is going to be a slight delay between when someone actually touches the ball and when the clock starts. It's not going to be instantaneous.
 
Do they realize that it's a human being pushing the button to start the clock? We are human. There is going to be a slight delay between when someone actually touches the ball and when the clock starts. It's not going to be instantaneous.

They realize it's a Portland clock operator. Most claim had it been in Houston he would not have got the shot off.
 
They realize it's a Portland clock operator. Most claim had it been in Houston he would not have got the shot off.

The only way he would not have gotten the shot off is if they started the clock before he touched it, so I guess they're right. If it was in Houston, I'm sure we wouldn't have gotten a favorable clock operator.
 
They realize it's a Portland clock operator. Most claim had it been in Houston he would not have got the shot off.

Maybe it's not true anymore (I doubt it though) but in years past, shot clock operators in the playoffs are neutral, and not Portland or Houston folks, precisely to prevent this sort of home cooking.
 
many Houston fans also believe that the Rockets would've still won the titles in 94 and 95 even if Jordan hadn't retired.

So..
 
re: the travel accusation. Don't you get a little lee-way to 'gather' the ball?
 
Do they realize that it's a human being pushing the button to start the clock? We are human. There is going to be a slight delay between when someone actually touches the ball and when the clock starts. It's not going to be instantaneous.


Even if it was instant. He would have got the shot off anyway. Like MM said, it was half-way to the basket when the clock hit 0.
 
They're still in the first stage of the Kubler-Ross model: Denial.

They have a way to go.
 
re: the travel accusation. Don't you get a little lee-way to 'gather' the ball?
Well, there's the 'jump stop', and yes, he's allowed to move before he has control of the ball. But seriously, I can't count the number of times I saw players travel above the circle gathering themselves in this and every other playoff game, many times before shooting a three. Harden does it every single time. It's part of the game at this point.
 
Again: The clock does not lose a tenth of a second the instant the player touches the ball. A tenth of a second has to go by before the clock goes from 0.9 to 0.8, not before. SMH

Funny we're still responding to this. It has been imperically proven by a half a dozen posters and other non partisan observers that he got the shot off in under 0.7 seconds.

We should let it go. ;)
 
We're frankly a really insecure fan base and the habit is not to rest until our opinion is accepted by everyone. Usually that opinion is that we were robbed, but in this case it's that we didn't cheat to win.

The true winner's attitude is "tough shit."
 
We're frankly a really insecure fan base and the habit is not to rest until our opinion is accepted by everyone. Usually that opinion is that we were robbed, but in this case it's that we didn't cheat to win.

The true winner's attitude is "tough shit."

I think to build on that, many of us have felt that the NBA is rigged on some level, so it is extremely offensive when another fanbase accuses us of benefiting from biased officiating or in this case time keeping.
 

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