Sorting out the SF position

[Mr. Robot]

obviously, the biggest problem on this team (nevermind Stotts) is a lack of scoring at SF position... now, theres some options of what Blazers can do, so I put them into the pool and I would like to hear what you guys are thinking about that, but youre welcome to post your own one

I consider Nurk (yeah, take that Nurk haters) & Collins players who are the future of the franchise and to me they are untradeable, nevermind Dame, hes the leader and the face of the franchise, rest of the team is tradeable as far as Im concerned


a) trade CJ & assets (excluding Dame, Nurk & Collins) for SF and draft SG

without good SF, this team doesnt work, so its only logical, for all Im concerned, to break that backcourt and bring good SF here and have more balanced team... then use our pick to draft SG

b) keep CJ, draft SF, stay competitive, but also build for the future (with Nurk, Collins and SF)

this personally is my favorite option, staying competitive with players like Dame, CJ & Nurk, but also building for the future with Nurk, Collins and drafted SF

when I say "competitive", I mean playoff team, we would probably still lose in the 1st round (were that team right now, but without one talented guy on the roster, who we could get at the draft and who could make our future better)

c) trade assets (excluding Dame, CJ, Nurk & Collins) for solid SF and then draft another SF (long term solution)

this is a great option, we improve our roster now and draft SF for the future

d) trade assets and picks (excluding Dame, CJ, Nurk & Collins) for SF

I didnt put this option in the pool, cause obiously it isnt doable, we cant bring good SF here without giving CJ, but that surely looks like the best option to me... I wrote this so you wouldnt lol

 

[kjironman1]

Started a new thread to go over what everyone has been going over for the last year?

Okay i'll play along. Trade CJ and Assets for a SF and let Pat Con take the SG for this year. If he continues to progress then keep him there. If not draft a bigger SG that can score.

 

[riverman]

I'm ready to either sell high on CJ for a two way guard or make him a 6 man

 

[e_blazer]

I'm hoping for c). I'd only trade CJ under option a) if it brought back a certified All Star caliber SF. If you don't get that, it's likely a net loss if you get a journeyman-type SF and draft a mid-lottery SG. There just aren't that many of those players that actually pan out. C) isn't going to get an All-Star SF, but if we can just get someone who can space the floor with some decent outside shooting, that's all you need from that position when you've got Dame and CJ for the primary perimeter scoring. Drafting an SF should be a goal, but I don't see waiting for one to develop as a viable option for the Dame-CJ window.

 

[Mr. Robot]

I'm ready to either sell high on CJ for a two way guard or make him a 6 man

CJ as the 6th man doesnt work, neither he would be happy to come of the bench
our starting five wouldnt do well...

 

[riverman]

CJ as the 6th man doesnt work, neither he would be happy to come of the bench
our starting five wouldnt do well...

we seriously need bench scoring....like it or not...I think it would snap him out of his funk...I don't care if it makes him happy...he doesn't seem real happy now

 

[PtldPlatypus]

You also missed option D: trade CJ for expirings and a high pick, and draft both a SG and SF. Mikal/Miles Bridges, Gary Trent Jr., Troy Brown, Jarred Vanderbilt all could be good prospects for the Blazers' wing positions.

 

[Mr. Robot]

I'm hoping for c). I'd only trade CJ under option a) if it brought back a certified All Star caliber SF. If you don't get that, it's likely a net loss if you get a journeyman-type SF and draft a mid-lottery SG. There just aren't that many of those players that actually pan out. C) isn't going to get an All-Star SF, but if we can just get someone who can space the floor with some decent outside shooting, that's all you need from that position when you've got Dame and CJ for the primary perimeter scoring. Drafting an SF should be a goal, but I don't see waiting for one to develop as a viable option for the Dame-CJ window.

how about trading for SF (someone who can space the floor with some decent outside shooting) and then draft for SF as the long term solution
I tought about this option too, bud didnt put it in the pool

 

[Mr. Robot]

You also missed option D: trade CJ for expirings and a high pick, and draft both a SG and SF. Mikal/Miles Bridges, Gary Trent Jr., Troy Brown, Jarred Vanderbilt all could be good prospects for the Blazers' wing positions.

mods are free too put other options in the pool

 

[Mr. Robot]

how about trading for SF (someone who can space the floor with some decent outside shooting) and then draft for SF as the long term solution
I tought about this option too, bud didnt put it in the pool

yeah, I like this option too...

 

[kjironman1]

mods are free too put other options in the pool

Be careful what you wish for around here.... Some Mods are a little furry.

 

[Mr. Robot]

we seriously need bench scoring....like it or not...I think it would snap him out of his funk...I don't care if it makes him happy...he doesn't seem real happy now

I guess that means starting ET with Chief coming of the bench to provide some defense, but also scoring
bench with CJ, Napier & Chief, theres some points there

 

[dviss1]

CJ as the 6th man doesnt work, neither he would be happy to come of the bench
our starting five wouldnt do well...

I completely disagree with this notion. The only reason why it doesn't work is salary IMO.

And for the record, I question the BBIQ of anyone who says CJ is a better defender than Dame.

 

[Mr. Robot]

I completely disagree with this notion. The only reason why it doesn't work is salary IMO.

And for the record, I question the BBIQ of anyone who says CJ is a better defender than Dame.

its hilarious to argue whos better at defense, when they both suck

 

[Mr. Robot]

c) trade assets (excluding Dame, CJ, Nurk & Collins) for solid SF and then draft another SF (long term solution)

yeah, this option should be in the pool

 

[dviss1]

its hilarious to argue whos better at defense, when they both suck

I guess. But when posters like you post idiotic shit like "let's trade Dame" and use Defense as a reason....

It's like:

 

[Mr. Robot]

I guess. But when posters like you post idiotic shit like "let's trade Dame" and use Defense as a reason....

It's like:

at this point I dont know if youre joking or not, but I never said we should trade Dame
I said we shouldnt trade him, but Im not opposed to trading CJ, not cause of his defense, but cause hes not a good fit, al least without SF

 

[Gronk Brady]

c) trade assets (excluding Dame, CJ, Nurk & Collins) for solid SF and then draft another SF (long term solution)

yeah, this option should be in the pool

That’s a joke... some of you want to get a good player without giving up anything. Also, the biggest problem with this team is McLillard backcourt... they take like half the teams shots and kill any flow to offense, hence dead last in NBA in assists... not to mention the defensive liability they create. How much more do some of you need to see?!? We are .500 team having played easiest schedule in NBA... if u take emotion out and think logically, trading CJ is only solution

 

[stampedehero]

I'm the lone vote for #2. Since the blow it up threads are coming, we need tasty material for a forum player and or coach gorging.

 

[Mr. Robot]

That’s a joke... some of you want to get a good player without giving up anything. Also, the biggest problem with this team is McLillard backcourt... they take like half the teams shots and kill any flow to offense, hence dead last in NBA in assists... not to mention the defensive liability they create. How much more do some of you need to see?!? We are .500 team having played easiest schedule in NBA... if u take emotion out and think logically, trading CJ is only solution

Im afraid you dont understand, look at the pool in the case you didnt
theres difference between good and solid SF, Im sure we dont have to trade CJ for a solid SF who would improve the roster

both options are doable, it depends what options are better...

 

[Mr. Robot]

I'm the lone vote for #2. Since the blow it up threads are coming, we need tasty material for a forum player and or coach gorging.

I didnt vote for any option, but option #2 was my favorite too, until I put in the option #3
the only difference is that option #3 has trading for solid SF

 

[Mr. Robot]

option #3 would probably have more votes if it was there from the start (6 or 7 posters already voted)
but you can change your vote, so...

 

[SportsAndWhine]

I'm ready to either sell high on CJ for a two way guard or make him a 6 man

Yep I wasn’t there last year but I’m ready now.

 

[stampedehero]

I didnt vote for any option, but option #2 was my favorite too, until I put in the option #3
the only difference is that option #3 has trading for solid SF

My question is: Can the solid SF play defense, passes well, does not get injured often and guarantees 12-15 pts a game without fouling out. Guys like that cost too much. Yes?

 

[Mr. Robot]

My question is: Can the solid SF play defense, passes well, does not get injured often and guarantees 12-15 pts a game without fouling out. Guys like that cost too much. Yes?

I dont know how much it costs, but I guess you can do it with our assests and picks, you dont have to trade CJ for that quality SF
I like the solid SF player until drafted SF becomes ready to play... our SF options literally suck

I like Neil Olshey, but if he doesnt do anything about SF position, maybe even something about scoring from the bench, I want him gone...

I guess that Nurk trade was a bit of luck and bit of smart business, he can draft, but Im yet to see something outside of that

 

[blue9]

Crowder has not been playing well in CLE, but was highly coveted by many in here last season. Thomas is still injured. Rose is MIA. I'd pitch CLE some sort of Turner for Crowder+filler. Sell them on Turner being a good EC player, defender, and ball-handler to play alongside LBJ - a jack-of-all-trades to help handle GSW. If needed, up the ante.

 

[Boob-No-More]

That’s a joke... some of you want to get a good player without giving up anything. Also, the biggest problem with this team is McLillard backcourt... they take like half the teams shots and kill any flow to offense, hence dead last in NBA in assists... not to mention the defensive liability they create. How much more do some of you need to see?!? We are .500 team having played easiest schedule in NBA... if u take emotion out and think logically, trading CJ is only solution

#FakeNews

POR has not played the easiest schedule. That distinction belongs to DEN who has the lowest SOS by a wide margin.

The Blazers have played the 8th easiest schedule to date.

BNM

 

[Boob-No-More]

#FakeNews

POR has not played the easiest schedule. That distinction belongs to DEN who has the lowest SOS by a wide margin.

The Blazers have played the 8th easiest schedule to date.

BNM

For the record, at this time, every team in the NW Division has played an easier than average (SOS = .500) schedule. In terms of strength of schedule, in our division, the Blazers are closer to the to the toughest schedule than the easiest - so far.

Here's how the NW Division teams currently rank in SOS:

UTA, 18th, .495
OKC, 21st, .489
POR, 23rd, .485
MIN, 25th, .482
DEN, 30th, .470

BNM

 

[Fez Hammersticks]

Dario Saric!

He'll cost a lot but he won't reach his potential in Philly due to the fact that Simmons, and rightfully so, has taken his role. Saric now mostly plays off the ball, he needs the ball. He's a shot-creator.

 

[santeesioux]

Dario Saric!

He'll cost a lot but he won't reach his potential in Philly due to the fact that Simmons, and rightfully so, has taken his role. Saric now mostly plays off the ball, he needs the ball. He's a shot-creator.

He usually sucks, but Bill Simmons said we should trade CJ for Saric and Fultz.