Sources: Pacers reach out to Cavs about possible Paul George deal

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Love for George would make the Cavs quite a bit better and allow them to match up better with Golden State. But it'd be a huge risk--if George did leave, they'd be without him and Love. Probably be the end of Cleveland's contender status.
 
LeBron leaving in the Summer of '18 will be the end of CLE's contender status. Maybe it's the right answer to throw all-in on PG for a ring next year, then shed PG/LBJ/JR/etc. in 2018 and rebuild.
 
Minstrel said:
Love for George would make the Cavs quite a bit better and allow them to match up better with Golden State. But it'd be a huge risk--if George did leave, they'd be without him and Love. Probably be the end of Cleveland's contender status.
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And Love's salary. KLove is OK but I don't think he is the reason they are a contender. Lebron and Kyrie are their big 2. I don't think they have a big 3. PG is worth the gamble even for 1 year.
 
So what would we give Indiana to get Kevin Love?
 
There is going to some team hung out to dry by the end of draft day. Some team that wanted to make a move and now is desperate. Say Indiana is desperate to move George and gets nowhere with their demands. Olshey needs to make like Robert Redford in The Sting and use the situation to his advantage. Just totally honey dick them. That's how we get from being last playoff seed to being a contender.
 
Pinwheel1 said:
And Love's salary. KLove is OK but I don't think he is the reason they are a contender. Lebron and Kyrie are their big 2. I don't think they have a big 3. PG is worth the gamble even for 1 year.
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They'd be capped out even without Love's salary.

I agree with Brian, though--it does work well for James, since he can bail next off-season if George leaves.
 
I don't see PG in CLE happening, but I guess you never know.
 
Minstrel said:
They'd be capped out even without Love's salary.

I agree with Brian, though--it does work well for James, since he can bail next off-season if George leaves.
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Only for a year. Losing his 24 million per could come in handy. Hard to say now put it could help them be more flexible. Just saying that it would be worth it for a year to get George.
 
Pinwheel1 said:
Only for a year. Losing his 24 million per could come in handy. Hard to say now put it could help them be more flexible. Just saying that it would be worth it for a year to get George.
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Especially if LBJ leaves next summer. Clears a ton of cap space for rebuilding, which makes sense - Love is worthless in Cleveland if LBJ is gone. And if it works in Cleveland this season, they both re-up.
 


If that's at all accurate, it seems like Pritchard's tactic is working. If he rooks the Lakers into giving up the #2 simply by setting up the Cavaliers as a stalking horse, Pritchard deserves the 2018 Executive of the Year award immediately. That would be worse than the Knicks giving up a package of interesting players for Melo ahead of him simply signing with them.
 
Minstrel said:


If that's at all accurate, it seems like Pritchard's tactic is working. If he rooks the Lakers into giving up the #2 simply by setting up the Cavaliers as a stalking horse, Pritchard deserves the 2018 Executive of the Year award immediately. That would be worse than the Knicks giving up a package of interesting players for Melo ahead of him simply signing with them.
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Hahahahha I actually want to see that happen.
 
Scalma said:
Hahahahha I actually want to see that happen.
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I would to, but I will be surprised if it does. They will dangle Randle and Russell and eventually end up with Ingram...... since they play the same position.
 
The only possible deal here is Love for George I guess. Maybe a package of Tristan Thompson plus another piece but it doesn't really make sense for Indiana as TT is not somebodt you build around and they have a better center talent in Myles Turner.

If Lakers give up #2 for him it'll be gross overpay. However, a lot of rumors lately about LA not being that keen on Lonzo Ball, if that is so, I can see this happening.
 
One that makes sense to me is:

Love to Boston
  • They need rebounding awfully bad, love has that in spades
  • Also, they have a ton of young guys on easy contracts to move and draft picks to send out to make it happen (which KP loves to collect)
Handful of picks to Indiana (no 3)
  • KP gets to start a new and play the draft, which is pretty much his favorite game right?
George to Cleveland
  • Cleveland puts all the chips in, Lebron becomes a permanent 4
I guess it's unlikely that Cleveland and Boston help each other out, but on paper each team gets better (or in Indiana's case, more flexible)
 
BrianFromWA said:
LeBron leaving in the Summer of '18 will be the end of CLE's contender status. Maybe it's the right answer to throw all-in on PG for a ring next year, then shed PG/LBJ/JR/etc. in 2018 and rebuild.
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Is it rumored that LeBron is gone next year?
 
Sarni said:
If Lakers give up #2 for him it'll be gross overpay. However, a lot of rumors lately about LA not being that keen on Lonzo Ball, if that is so, I can see this happening.
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It'll be one of the funniest NBA weeks ever if the Lakers trade the #2 for a player they could likely sign for nothing but cash in a year and Lonzo Ball gets drafted by a team like the Kings. Ball will have to learn to fake-smile while smoldering the way Eli Manning did when the Chargers drafted him.
 
Minstrel said:
It'll be one of the funniest NBA weeks ever if the Lakers trade the #2 for a player they could likely sign for nothing but cash in a year and Lonzo Ball gets drafted by a team like the Kings. Ball will have to learn to fake-smile while smoldering the way Eli Manning did when the Chargers drafted him.
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I kinda think Magic is wiser than this.
 
Minstrel said:
It'll be one of the funniest NBA weeks ever if the Lakers trade the #2 for a player they could likely sign for nothing but cash in a year and Lonzo Ball gets drafted by a team like the Kings. Ball will have to learn to fake-smile while smoldering the way Eli Manning did when the Chargers drafted him.
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I won't be surprised at all if they don't draft Ball. I don't think it's as much of a certainty as it appears to be. I will be surprised if they are dumb enough to offer a #2 pick for an expiring player who is said to want to sign for them on a free next season.

They could maybe offer Russell for him though. I am not sure he fits next to Ball although there is chance that he does, with his shooting ability which is probably the only thing he is projecting to become consistently truly good at.
 
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