Speaking of no talent U.S. born white centers

[blue9]

That's right - I was trying to figure out a way to finagle a draft pick away from HOU to give us 3 picks.

 

[Wizard Mentor]

Leonard is not a stereotypical Big White Stiff who really knows the game....

he's a Skilled Superathletic Big who has no clue about the game.

Hopefully, it'll all work out in the end, but I'm not taking that for granted.

 

[VanillaGorilla]

There seems to be a lot of bashing going on, and I'm not sure why? You all like Leonard, and I hope he blows up and becomes a great defensive center that we need. I just think we should have taken Lamb, who I thought was the BPA at the time

What's your point? You said you wanted Lamb before, during, and after the draft. If he ever amounts to anything, you can say "I told you so" til the cows come home. He hasn't done shit, what's the point of you spewing your opinion about him over and over. Just shut up, seriously.

 

[VanillaGorilla]

It's all opinions, so I'm not hating anyone else's opinion. Except MM's "he's a white American center."

That's an idiotic and racist opinion, so it's okay to hate it.

 

[RR7]

What's your point? You said you wanted Lamb before, during, and after the draft. If he ever amounts to anything, you can say "I told you so" til the cows come home. He hasn't done shit, what's the point of you spewing your opinion about him over and over. Just shut up, seriously.

Yes, let's all sit here on a message board in silence.

 

[Mediocre Man]

What's your point? You said you wanted Lamb before, during, and after the draft. If he ever amounts to anything, you can say "I told you so" til the cows come home. He hasn't done shit, what's the point of you spewing your opinion about him over and over. Just shut up, seriously.

I think you are taking this a tad out of context. I was asked who I would have taken instead of Leonard and I answered Lamb.

And don't all of us spew our opinions with most every post?

 

[VanillaGorilla]

Yes, let's all sit here on a message board in silence.

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[VanillaGorilla]

I think you are taking this a tad out of context. I was asked who I would have taken instead of Leonard and I answered Lamb.

And don't all of us spew our opinions with most every post?

I feel like someone is singing Mary Had a Little Lamb over and over again and it's starting to drive me insane.

 

[Mediocre Man]

I feel like someone is singing Mary Had a Little Lamb over and over again and it's starting to drive me insane.

It was simply asked of me, so I answered. I didn't bring it up

 

[RR7]

best thing to do would be to whine about it some more. Racist? psh.
If I ask you to name the top 10 players in the league, and you name nothing but black guys, are you being racist by not including any whites in the list? If I ask you to go top 25, and your list is over 90% black, are you a racist for those opinions?

 

[BLAZINGGIANTS]

Yes, let's all sit here on a message board in silence.

Denny Crane does NOT approve of this message.

 

[RR7]

Denny Crane does NOT approve of this message.

shhh, quiet time.

 

[VanillaGorilla]

best thing to do would be to whine about it some more. Racist? psh.
If I ask you to name the top 10 players in the league, and you name nothing but black guys, are you being racist by not including any whites in the list? If I ask you to go top 25, and your list is over 90% black, are you a racist for those opinions?

No.. But if I were to say I picked them partly because they were black, it would be racist, yes.

 

[RR7]

No.. But if I were to say I picked them partly because they were black, it would be racist, yes.

Does noticing that all of those top players are black make you racist?

 

[VanillaGorilla]

Does noticing that all of those top players are black make you racist?

Nope

 

[3RA1N1AC]

if you said "we should never draft black people in the lotto", would that be racist?

 

[MickZagger]

We need mo knikkaz in tha lottoz!

 

[MickZagger]

Are Shane Battier and Jason Kidd more white than black? Or if you have a hint of black in you we cat you as a knikka?

 

[VanillaGorilla]

Are Shane Battier and Jason Kidd more white than black? Or if you have a hint of black in you we cat you as a knikka?

Not to mention Blake Griffin..

 

[RR7]

if you said "we should never draft black people in the lotto", would that be racist?

I think if you felt you noticed a trend of blacks primarily sucking at basketball, then no.

 

[MickZagger]

Griffin looks more white to me. He's a whitey.

 

[magnifier661]

I think if you felt you noticed a trend of blacks primarily sucking at basketball, then no.

US test scores
Main article: Achievement gap in the United States
Rushton & Jensen (2005) write that, in the United States, self-identified blacks and whites have been the subjects of the greatest number of studies. They state that the black-white IQ difference is about 15 to 18 points or 1 to 1.1 standard deviations (SDs), which implies that between 11 and 16 percent of the black population have an IQ above 100 (the white mean). The black-white IQ difference is largest on those components of IQ tests that best represent the general intelligence factor g.[21] The 1996 APA report "Intelligence: Knowns and Unknowns" and the 1994 editorial statement "Mainstream Science on Intelligence" gave more or less similar estimates.[7][46] Roth et al. (2001), in a review of the results of a total of 6,246,729 participants on other tests of cognitive ability or aptitude, found a black-white gap of 1.1 SD. Consistent results were found for college and university application tests such as the Scholastic Aptitude Test (N = 2.4 million) and Graduate Record Examination (N = 2.3 million), as well as for tests of job applicants in corporate sections (N = 0.5 million) and in the military (N = 0.4 million).[47]
A 2006 study by Dickens and Flynn estimated that the black-white gap closed by about 5 or 6 IQ points between 1972 and 2002,[48] which would be a reduction of about one-third. However this was challenged by Rushton & Jensen who claim the gap remains stable.[49] In a 2006 study, Murray agreed with Dickens and Flynn that there has been a narrowing of the gap; "Dickens' and Flynn's estimate of 3–6 IQ points from a base of about 16–18 points is a useful, though provisional, starting point". But he argued that this has stalled and that there has been no further narrowing for people born after the late 1970s.[50] Murray found similar results in a 2007 study.[51]
The IQ distributions of other racial and ethnic groups in the United States are less well-studied. The Bell Curve (1994) stated that the average IQ of African Americans was 85, Latino 89, White 103, Asian 106, and Jews 113. Asians score relatively higher on visuospatial than on verbal subtests. The few Amerindian populations who have been systematically tested, including Arctic Natives, tend to score worse on average than white populations but better on average than black populations.[47]
According to several studies, Ashkenazi Jews score 0.75 to 1.0 standard deviations above the general European average. This corresponds to an IQ of 112–115. Other studies have found somewhat lower values. During the 20th century, this population made up about 3% of the total US population, but won 27% of the US science Nobel Prizes and 25% of the Turing Awards. They have high verbal and mathematical scores, while their visuospatial abilities are typically somewhat lower, by about one half standard deviation, than the European average.[52] See also Ashkenazi Jewish intelligence.

Would it be racist to hire whites over blacks because of this study?

 

[PapaG]

Griffin looks more white to me. He's a whitey.

Griffin's a straight-up ginger.

 

[Nikolokolus]

Would it be racist to hire whites over blacks because of this study?

Pretty much. (Go look up the term "ecological fallacy" to find out why.)

 

[BBert]

There was this one Martin Luther King guy I heard about that said something about judging people on their individual merits not on the color of their skin. I don't know if he said anything about where they were born. Anyway, it sounded pretty compelling at the time. I don't know if he did any studies though. Maybe he was full of it? It seems like a pretty reasonable position, but it does require more effort, work and brain power to figure out someone's individual merits than going by a general rule of thumb like say, Japanese gardeners are more detail oriented than HCP, and are less likely to bang your wife. Anyway...what were we talking about?