Spurs coaches Gregg Popovich, Becky Hammon stand during anthem

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Let's keep the politics in OT
 
As background, I'm someone who completely supported Kaepernick's decision to kneel and his reasons for doing so, and I appreciated players who did the same over the intervening years.

As such a person, I never had a problem with people who didn't kneel. What I had a problem with was those who vilified players (or coaches) who did kneel.

So, in other words, not only is this not disqualifying, it's not even concerning.
Ya see, there's two kinds of people in this whirled. Them that gets vilified when they kneel; and them that gets vilified when they stand. That's just the natural order of things.
 
So, this a dirt on Becky Hammon thread?
Yeah, but all anybody has been able to come up with is she stood up during the anthem. She looks clean, so far. But we'll be watching. Oh, yes. Always watching....
 
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Let's keep the politics in OT

when you think about it...saying "no politics" is actually a political statement itself

that's right CC...I'm asking you to think real real hard about your insistence on making things political around here. Tyranny is politics. You should lighten up. Vodka helps
 
when you think about it...saying "no politics" is actually a political statement itself

that's right CC...I'm asking you to think real real hard about your insistence on making things political around here. Tyranny is politics. You should lighten up. Vodka helps

Vodka? Tyranny? You saying I'm Putin? You better watch out then.
 
Hammond getting more hate for standing during the anthem from some than Kidd got for hitting his wife and drinking and driving


Many such instances of hypocrisy exist. Daniel Shaver's wife's go fund me was a pittance and embarrassment compared to George Floyd's and the justice system did nothing but mock her plight. Crickets amongst the likes of Pops and Hammon and kneeling players. Those whom most profess to stand for equality these days are most often the most discriminatory. The white man in Phoenix(not Daniel Shaver), who was shot dead answering his apartment door in an instant was killed not even a week before George Floyd. I saw the video, he didn't do anything wrong. He wasn't even accused of a crime. He's dead, not a one of you cares.


Edit: White woman was killed in Arkansas by police two weeks after George Floyd. No gun found in car. No body cam footage. No further questions. No further political gain. Erased. Not a name.

https://www.wsws.org/en/articles/2020/09/17/sand-s17.html
 
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Many such instances of hypocrisy exist. Daniel Shaver's wife's go fund me was a pittance and embarrassment compared to George Floyd's and the justice system did nothing but mock her plight. Crickets amongst the likes of Pops and Hammon and kneeling players. Those whom most profess to stand for equality these days are most often the most discriminatory. The white man in Phoenix(not Daniel Shaver), who was shot dead answering his apartment door in an instant was killed not even a week before George Floyd. I saw the video, he didn't do anything wrong. He wasn't even accused of a crime. He's dead, not a one of you cares.
Everyone doesn't respond to every situation the same.

The changes that would have saved Floyd would likely save Shaver and the other guy as well.
 
Everyone doesn't respond to every situation the same.

The changes that would have saved Floyd would likely save Shaver and the other guy as well.


No shit, that's why it's hypocrisy. Also, what changes are you even talking about? Is there some of kind of change in reality now where people actually care about Daniel Shaver? Last I saw his wife was posting on tiktok that she without a car and was soon going to be losing her home(two small children they had together). The police department allowed the killer to buy back the gun used to kill him. The killer was allowed to be rehired so that he could retire on medical disability related to the PTSD he claims to have gotten from shooting Daniel Shaver. He lives on taxpayer dime for the rest of his life while Daniel Shaver's wife can't even fill a go fund me that has been up for years to bring a civil trial.
 
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No shit, that's why it's hypocrisy. I have every intention of understanding why crandc would appreciate this post.
It's not hypocrisy. It's unreasonable to expect people to respond to all 3 situations the same.

It's not a competition. Floyd's death was far more public and brutal than the other two so it received more attention.

But the attention it received could help prevent all 3 situations from happening again. You can't expect different instances to be received equally by society, and getting angry about that is just being unrealistic.
 
I think we could point out a lot of cases where a POC was killed or mistreated by police/the law and it went unknown at a significantly higher rate than that of a white person experiencing a similar fate.

Doesn't mean one death is acceptable, and the other isn't.
 
No shit, that's why it's hypocrisy. Also, what changes are you even talking about? Is there some of kind of change in reality now where people actually care about Daniel Shaver? Last I saw his wife was posting on tiktok that she without a car and was soon going to be losing her home(two small children they had together). The police department allowed the killer to buy back the gun used to kill him. The killer was allowed to be rehired so that he could retire on medical disability related to the PTSD he claims to have gotten from shooting Daniel Shaver. He lives on taxpayer dime for the rest of his life while Daniel Shaver's wife can't even fill a go fund me that has been up for years to bring a civil trial.
Have you not seen the public demonstrations demanding police accountability and advocating for improved training and higher employment standards. Pleading for expanded use of non-lethal expertise?

These kinds of efforts (if successful) can help prevent future Shaver and Floyd tragedies. Keep the pressure on.

But the two camps competing against each other is just the kind of ignorance which will maintain the status quo.
 

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