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I'm fine with the Ducks switching to Ty Thompson. I do not believe today will be their last loss, so I don't think they have a lot to lose by making the change

I've been told that both Thompson and Butterield will have good practices, and then have bad ones. They are inconsistent in practice and make progression mistakes. So, expecting the young guy to come in and have a lot of success does not seem realistic. Thompson isn't much of a runner either
 
I'm fine with the Ducks switching to Ty Thompson. I do not believe today will be their last loss, so I don't think they have a lot to lose by making the change

I've been told that both Thompson and Butterield will have good practices, and then have bad ones. They are inconsistent in practice and make progression mistakes. So, expecting the young guy to come in and have a lot of success does not seem realistic. Thompson isn't much of a runner either

Brown is just a worse version of Darron Thomas. Thomas had his limitations, but he was pretty good for what he was. He wasn't a Mariota, but he was fine. Brown reminds me of him a little bit, but he doesn't seem to stand out on anything.
 
They just aren’t very good. Loads of talent, great recruiters. Need coaches. Same old story. Zero business losing to Stanford. Refs bad but Ducks absolutely didn’t deserve to win. Cristobal always looks like he’s coaching his first game.

The fact that Herbert looked very ho-hum in his senior season and now looks like the best young QB in the NFL says quite a bit.
 
Well how many times do I tell ya this.

Mario Cristobal is a great recruiter maybe the best one out there but his X and Os coaching in game is terrible. Very vanilla and boring
 
Another take I have is why the fuck are we playing this 10 year senior? Play your fucking 5 star freshman qb and use this year as the development year experience. Just wasting precise time everybody knew this wasn’t a playoff team anyways. Develop the kid
 
Does anyone else think maybe the Stanford curse is due to Eugene being favorable to tree huggers?! :dunno:
 
1) Coaches need to be able to accurately evaluate their players and determine who gives the team the best chance to win. Strike 1 for the Ducks.
2) Coaches need to be able to put together a game plan that maximizes strengths and covers for weaknesses. Strike 2.
3) Coaches need to have their players physically and mentally ready to play. This is doubly true of college coaches. Strike 3.
4) At some point even the most loyal Duck fans will need to accept that those great recruiting classes they have been hearing about just aren't anything special.
 
1) Coaches need to be able to accurately evaluate their players and determine who gives the team the best chance to win. Strike 1 for the Ducks.
2) Coaches need to be able to put together a game plan that maximizes strengths and covers for weaknesses. Strike 2.
3) Coaches need to have their players physically and mentally ready to play. This is doubly true of college coaches. Strike 3.
4) At some point even the most loyal Duck fans will need to accept that those great recruiting classes they have been hearing about just aren't anything special.
I don’t think it’s the recruits.
 
AB isn't accurate as a downfield passer which really limits the offense. Opponents are loading up on the run and rightfully not fearing the deep ball. Even his completions often feature big adjustments from the receivers.

STOMP
He's not a very accurate thrower often times behind the receiver and he was way long on the one long ball with receiver wide open.
 
about Anthony Brown: his career completion% is 55%. That's not good at all, and it's only 56.5% this season. Now, if you just gauged by this season you might think that a big reason for that low completion percentage is him making 'sure' that only his targets had a chance at the ball. But his career TD/Int ratio is 2.33. For comparison: Mariota had a TD/int ratio of 7.5 and a completion rate of 67%; Herbert's marks were 4.13 and 64%; Darron Thomas was at 3.88 and 61%; Jeremiah Masoli's marks at Oregon were 2.54 and 58%

but Masoli was great at making reads after the snap (he was also a QB in a RB's body). Brown is terrible at that and it cost the Ducks the game last night. It's time for a change, IMO. I think that's especially true with CJ Verdell out. The Ducks have to be able to get the ball in the hands of the WR's and TE's now and Brown has shown that he's not accurate enough to do that consistently. Too many empty possessions last night because of AB's reads and inaccuracy

but that also likely means growing pains. The Duck record after they went with freshman Justin Herbert was 2-5

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about Cristobal: I think you can kind of toss out last year because of Covid. The year before that, the Ducks went 12-2 winning both the Pac-12 championship and the Rose Bowl. In MC's 1st year they went 9-4 and beat Michigan State in the bowl game. A poor game manager couldn't have posted those records. Just like a poor game manager wouldn't have beat tOSU in their stadium. He's won 2 pac-12 championships in 3 years. A bad coach wouldn't have done that

Cristobal has had to replace both his offensive coordinator and defensive coordinator over the last 12 games. MC's record as the Oregon coach, including the Covid year, is 29-10. That's a .744 winning percentage. His post-season record is 4-1

compare Cristobal to a couple of great coaches: Mike Bellotti at Oregon and Chris Peterson at Washington

overall winning percentage: Cristobal .744....Peterson .679....Bellotti .678

post-season record: Cristobal 4-1....Peterson 4-4....Bellotti 6-6

Cristobal didn't inherit a very talented roster like Chip Kelly did, or Mark Halfrich did. He had to build a culture and recruit talent like Bellotti and Peterson did. And so far, even counting yesterday, he has registered better marks than either of those long-time coaches.

it's just off-base to slam him for being a bad game manager or for poor coaching. He wouldn't have that record if he was either.

It may be a legitimate criticism to say he's too stubborn. He really seems intent on Oregon establishing an identity as a physical team, and sometimes I think that's yielded conservative play calls. And it might be why Anthony Brown is the QB. He also might have fucked up by hiring Tim Deruyter as the defensive coordinator. I have been unimpressed with the bend-don't-break defense of the Ducks this year. It hasn't been effective at all
 
The results lately though do bring up the question as to whether they are recruiting more for "talent" rather than heart, desire, determination.

Right now, OSU is playing with more heart and pride than the Ducks. On paper the Ducks have more talent...but results matter. There's not much value in "talent" that doesn't translate to performance on the field.
 
Why are the ducks so overrated? They beat Ohio St by a touchdown, barely beat a Fresno team which lost to Hawaii.

The AP should have them at like 21. But I bet they will end up sitting at 11

Also, haha duck fans
 
Hubris. This team is filled with players who think they are the shit. They make stupid stupid mistakes. Zero discipline. I put a lot of that on coaching.
 
I read that the Ducks have lost 4 of the last 5 OT games they’ve played. Not a good stat for the program.
 
I read that the Ducks have lost 4 of the last 5 OT games they’ve played. Not a good stat for the program.

you have to reach all the way back to Chip Kelly for that stat

Cristobal is 1-2 with both losses coming to Stanford. He's also 29-10 as a coach at Oregon and 4-1 in the post-season
 
MSN had an article blasting PAC-12 officiating and the missed false start at the end of Q4. Ref had his flag pulled and ready to toss, the Ducks line was calling the false start, Stanford’s line stopped as if they were also expecting the flag. And then Stanford’s QB made an easy completion to make it first-and-goal.

But that’s why you play through the whistle….
 
MSN had an article blasting PAC-12 officiating and the missed false start at the end of Q4. Ref had his flag pulled and ready to toss, the Ducks line was calling the false start, Stanford’s line stopped as if they were also expecting the flag. And then Stanford’s QB made an easy completion to make it first-and-goal.

But that’s why you play through the whistle….

the targeting call really needs to be shit-canned, or at least adjusted to eliminate ejections for inadvertent helmet contact.

Stanford won because of 3 Duck penalties on their last drive....and that doesn't count that non-called false start. The targeting on Thibodeaux was questionable but I guess you could justify it. The roughing call on Dorlus was bullshit, and the PI in the last timed down was total bullshit

Pac-12 official are the worst. I looked at the numbers yesterday, and out of 130 NCAA teams, 6 pac-12 teams are in the most 27 penalized teams. 8 pac-12 teams are among the most 50 penalized. And that is how it's been for years. They blow their fucking whistles way too much. There were 20 penalties in that Duck game yesterday
 

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