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Never good when a player plays through the period, but then sits out after the break...usually means they found something.

Figure that is 4 weeks +/-. Miller/Etem need to step up now (know it won't be Kreider). Says he has some broken ribs. Not the end of the world in late November. Sure he will be back by the new year +/- (5 weeks from today is Jan 1).

BTW...saw Julien said Hank acted on the interference call. That is comical to me. Are all these French Canadian coaches whiny bit*hes? I mean Marchand CLEARLY skated right into Hanks head in the crease. Whether Hank went down or not doesn't matter...it was a clear ZERO debate penalty. I hate whiny bitc*es. That's why I like AV...he never whines.
 
Sadly the Rangers play like frightened children against this team. It had been going on for years.
 
59 games left. Hopefully they will get their act back together. Figure Stepan misses 15 or so games. Time to get our sh*t together.
 
chuckd3534 said:
59 games left. Hopefully they will get their act back together. Figure Stepan misses 15 or so games. Time to get our sh*t together.
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Depends on how bad the ribs are broken, what ribs are broken, etc. Could be 4 weeks could be 8 weeks.
 
Yep. Just got back from a wedding and saw the replay. A couple of broken ribs on absolute cheap shot with no call well after stepan got rid of puck. Doesn't seem possible none of the 4 blind mice out there saw this and the asshole ref compounds it with the god damn instigator penalty and misconduct instead of just patting dylan on the back after he kicked the shit out of the cheap shot artist. Kreider makes that hit and its 5 and a game misconduct. Absolute joke with these refs already. Dylan did absolutely the right thing and only too bad dylan only gave him a black eye instead of breaking his fucking jaw. Sather if he's got any juice left with this league better be on the phone raising hell with the league office and this god damn instigator penalty and addl misconduct that only penalizes the team of the player that gets crushed needs to be eliminated.
 
chuckd3534 said:
Never good when a player plays through the period, but then sits out after the break...usually means they found something.

Figure that is 4 weeks +/-. Miller/Etem need to step up now (know it won't be Kreider). Says he has some broken ribs. Not the end of the world in late November. Sure he will be back by the new year +/- (5 weeks from today is Jan 1).

BTW...saw Julien said Hank acted on the interference call. That is comical to me. Are all these French Canadian coaches whiny bit*hes? I mean Marchand CLEARLY skated right into Hanks head in the crease. Whether Hank went down or not doesn't matter...it was a clear ZERO debate penalty. I hate whiny bitc*es. That's why I like AV...he never whines.
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Yeah, AV never whines. Great. AV just stands there chewing his gum while his team gets the worst of every whistle. Someone needs to wake his ass up before Nash is next out on a cheap shot. He needs to start going after these fucking refs same as the other coaches or he's going to start losing his teams respect.
 
I would be surprised if he missed 8 weeks with a couple of broken ribs, but we'll see. I would expect 15-20 games tops. Shouldn't be a huge issue in late November, but who knows. Can Miller or Etem step up?

The rule is what it is mel. They should allow the ref on the ice some discretion regarding the misconduct, but that's the rule. Is what it is.
 
Okay mel, you can whine and think the Rangers get jobbed by the refs, and AV will be a man and know that at the end of the day things usually even out, despite the fact that fans living in the moment never see it.

How would we all have felt if Kreider was on the Habs and knocked Hank out of the ECF...yeah we all know that answer.
 
Funny i thought the mear fact that dylan was in the game, NEVER MIND ACTUALLY ON THE ICE, that these types of hits wont happen anymore....the deterent didnt deter a fucking bullshit late hit and now our top or 1a center is out weeks.....

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That's funny Al. If Mac wasn't playing today and that happened we would get post after post about how the hit doesn't happen if Mac was playing.

Injuries are part of sports. If we cannot survive 15 regular season games +/- without Stepan we have bigger issues, especially since we are currently in 1st place.
 
Actually relieved with that diagnosis. Was thinking head injury for sure.

This team has the fewest man games lost to injury in the entire league, so it was bound to happen eventually. He'll be ok by mid Jan id say.
 
chuckd3534 said:
Okay mel, you can whine and think the Rangers get jobbed by the refs, and AV will be a man and know that at the end of the day things usually even out, despite the fact that fans living in the moment never see it.

How would we all have felt if Kreider was on the Habs and knocked Hank out of the ECF...yeah we all know that answer.
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I agree and disagree. There comes a time where you DO have to rip into the refs and point out a bad call or a missed call. This will typically get you a make up call later. There's also nothing wrong with, after a hit like this, calling out the NHL and the refs in the media. It was a blatantly late hit that resulted in an injury. Should be a 5 game suspension. Difference with the Kreider play is he gets tripped making a hockey play, but then does nothing to avoid the goalie after getting tripped. Stepan gets hit when he has already released the puck and there is no hockey play being made there, just a cheap shot that leads to injury.
 
Then you have idiots like Pierre Mcguire blaming Stepan for admiring his pass. There's nothing a player who gets blindsided can do in that situation. To me it's the same as a hit from behind.
 
I agree with that 94. But that isn't whining about refs, that is saying something like "to me that looks like an illegal hit. The refs made the call and we need to live with it, but it looked illegal to me and IMO something the league should look at. Plays like that are the types of plays we are trying to get out of this league".

That is very fair and smart.

And no shot that is a 5 game suspension. We need to keep it in context. Late hit for sure, but not a head shot or a slew foot. I could see a good fine or maybe 1 game...maybe 2...but no way is that a 5 game suspension.
 
Just looked at the schedule. If Step is back on Jan 1 he misses 15 games. He misses 19 games if he is back Jan 14 against the Isles.

I say he misses 16 games +/- unless we hear something crazy about the injury.
 
chuckd3534 said:
I agree with that 94. But that isn't whining about refs, that is saying something like "to me that looks like an illegal hit. The refs made the call and we need to live with it, but it looked illegal to me and IMO something the league should look at. Plays like that are the types of plays we are trying to get out of this league".

That is very fair and smart.

And no shot that is a 5 game suspension. We need to keep it in context. Late hit for sure, but not a head shot or a slew foot. I could see a good fine or maybe 1 game...maybe 2...but no way is that a 5 game suspension.
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But see, that the problem. It's a hit that the NHL needs to take out of the game. I'm still waiting to see Malkin or Subban suspended for a slew foot. It'll never happen. Hitting a guy, blindsided, late and causes injury should 100 be a 5 game suspension. That's why the NHL is a joke. He won't even get a fine. But Kreider got a suspension for a "boarding" hit when he was 5 feet from the boards. CONSISTENCY. Welcome to the NHL, where this word does not exist.
 
Well said by AV. Pretty much what I said.

Vigneault said on ESPN Radio, "In our opinion it was a late hit, more than a second and he was a couple of feet away from the boards. I remember in this building, Aaron Rome .6 seconds late getting suspended four games in the SCF. Step broke some ribs so he will be out indefinitely."

Still don't see that long of a suspension, but who knows.

That is direct and to the point and not whiny.
 
Ribs usually heal quick. I doubt they're that bad considering he played afterwards. Will miss some time sure but it's usually not a 6-8 week thing. Steve Smith Sr. of the Ravens was back in two weeks earlier this year.
 
chuckd3534 said:
Well said by AV. Pretty much what I said.

Vigneault said on ESPN Radio, "In our opinion it was a late hit, more than a second and he was a couple of feet away from the boards. I remember in this building, Aaron Rome .6 seconds late getting suspended four games in the SCF. Step broke some ribs so he will be out indefinitely."

Still don't see that long of a suspension, but who knows.

That is direct and to the point and not whiny.
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I think it's a great response. Also I LOVE that he referenced an example of discipline that the NHL already gave out for a similar hit. Now let's see what the gutless NHL does. I'm betting not even a fine.
 
I do agree they are not consistent with their punishment. To me WAY too much emphasis is placed on injury or not. I think that is ridiculous. If a guy gets hurt does it make the actual hit worse or the message the NHL should be trying to teach any different. I hate that they put so much focus on injury or not.

To me that makes it about fair play like you lost your guy so now we'll make the other team lose their guy...and that should NOT be the message behind suspensions.
 
Messiah717 said:
Ribs usually heal quick. I doubt they're that bad considering he played afterwards. Will miss some time sure but it's usually not a 6-8 week thing. Steve Smith Sr. of the Ravens was back in two weeks earlier this year.
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I agree Mess. That is my thinking as well. That's why I say 16 games +/-. Which would be 5 weeks (5 weeks from today is Jan 1). If he is back Jan 2nd at Florida he missed 15 games.
 
Messiah717 said:
Ribs usually heal quick. I doubt they're that bad considering he played afterwards. Will miss some time sure but it's usually not a 6-8 week thing. Steve Smith Sr. of the Ravens was back in two weeks earlier this year.
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Depends what ribs and how bad the break is. Can't risk rushing back and the ribs haven't healed completely, takes a hit and the rib punctures a lung. Believe it or not, it easier for Steve Smith to come back because he can go 6 straight days with no contact and then get a shot for Sunday to numb the pain. NHL doesn't have that luxury. Step will have to play every other day and take hits in all those games.
 
And it isn't even middle of the season yet, so it isn't a crusher if he waits a few extra days to be 100% healed. Missing games 24-40 or so isn't a huge crusher.
 
Better than the Tony Romo collar bone. Then your definately out a while.
 
Yeah, and clearly he came back too soon as we saw yesterday. So to 94's point, let Step be 100% for sure before he comes back. No matter how you cut it he will be back by the mid point of the season +/-, so a TON of hockey left to play when he returns...months.
 
chuckd3534 said:
Yeah, and clearly he came back too soon as we saw yesterday. So to 94's point, let Step be 100% for sure before he comes back. No matter how you cut it he will be back by the mid point of the season +/-, so a TON of hockey left to play when he returns...months.
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Yep. And with ribs he can keep skating and staying in shape too. Better than a concussion or lower body.
 
Last thing I'll say about the Stepan injury, the Rangers are in 1st place right now. If they can't stay near the top of the Met over 15 games +/- without Step, then they weren't that great anyway.

With games in hand they are 4 over Pitt for 3rd and 7 over the Devs/Isles for 4th. No excuse not to be worst case 3rd when Stepan returns, but I'd bet on 2nd after the Caps.
 
He's sucked all year anyway. To moron Chuck. McIlrath beat the crap out of the guy who did it. If he wasn't there, the rest of the pussies would have done nothing and then McDonagh would have gotten run at later in the game. God you're a moron. You just can't admit you are wrong about anything.
 
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