Steve Adams Calls Warriors Monkeys

[blue32]

I think that's the fundamental difference. It's not a problem in their brain, or a chemical imbalance. And certainly not a disease.

Sure. And on the flip side, do people with mood disorders think they have a problem, imbalance, disorder, or disease? Most would say no, but professionals would say otherwise.

People with MPD, DID, Bi-Polar, all have a disorder that is well documented.

We try not to let people with these mood disorders enable it further or go unchecked, so why would we do that with the Transgender people? Again just my opinions on the matter.

 

[Mediocre Man]

How do we know? Has someone uncovered the biological drivers/indicators for gender identity? There is much we don't know about how the brain works.

Fair, we don't know, so to say it is is incorrect also

 

[blue32]

Maybe we'll all be gray sexless aliens in the future...

 

[Denny Crane]

I heard a sports announcer call Curry a "machine" today. It was clearly a compliment, but still dehumanizing.

 

[rasheedfan2005]

Millennials seem to have a need to feel oppressed, i think they figure if enough people feel bad for them then some entity will give them money and they wont have to work. They gave birth to the "emo." They focus on racial traits and now gender traits. We've been socially programed to argue over issues that shouldnt really matter so that government and corporations can do all the corrupt things they like to do without falling under the telescope. Then weve been programmed to label anyone who sees the big picture as a conspiracy theorist. I find the social programming fascinating, and sometimes depressing. Thats why god gave us alcohol.

 

[Denny Crane]

Obviously "monkey" is taboo because there's a long history of abuse of "science" to assert people with dark skin are inferior and ape-like.

 

[rasheedfan2005]

Sure. And on the flip side, do people with mood disorders think they have a problem, imbalance, disorder, or disease? Most would say no, but professionals would say otherwise.

People with MPD, DID, Bi-Polar, all have a disorder that is well documented.

We try not to let people with these mood disorders enable it further or go unchecked, so why would we do that with the Transgender people? Again just my opinions on the matter.

Bi polar is fucking bullshit!

 

[rasheedfan2005]

Obviously "monkey" is taboo because there's a long history of abuse of "science" to assert people with dark skin are inferior and ape-like.

Well to be fair the father of evolution charles darwin in his book "evolution and the preservation of favored races through natural selection" clearly shows that blacks and jews are less evolved and closer to out great grandparents the ape. Im thankful i dont believe in evolution or support the works of that racist nut job.

 

[BlazerCaravan]

Pro tip: during the off season of an election year, people are FUCKING ASSHOLES to each other.

 

[PtldPlatypus]

Pro tip: during the off season of an election year, people are FUCKING ASSHOLES

To each their own, I guess. I prefer the traditional method.

 

[BlazerCaravan]

To each their own, I guess. I prefer the traditional method.

Remember that traditions vary from dickhead to dickhead.

 

[crandc]

Well to be fair the father of evolution charles darwin in his book "evolution and the preservation of favored races through natural selection" clearly shows that blacks and jews are less evolved and closer to out great grandparents the ape. Im thankful i dont believe in evolution or support the works of that racist nut job.

That's funny, I actually read Origin of Species and Descent of Man - I don't recall seeing those comments about blacks and Jews. Nor do I recall seeing Darwin commit the scientific atrocity of saying apes are our "great grandparents". Can you quote me which chapter of which book says that? Seems like something that would be copied/pasted from some creationist web site, not Darwin. Ever read Darwin?

Had you read Darwin you might have learned the word "race" in evolutionary biology does not mean "race" in the modern social sense at all. Go find out. Don't copy/paste, learn something from the source.

Evolution is inherently anti-racist as it shows all humans are clearly unmistakably one species and that so-called racial differences are tiny, biologically. Unfortunately for various historical reasons certain differences have become big, socially.

 

[crandc]

The only reason he apologized was because he's in America where the PC police and Butt-hurt is real.

And the only reason people like myself are speaking out about it, is not because we are 'victims' but because we disagree with the popular sentiment. Transgenders got brought up as an example of another PC Police/Butt-hurt/social justice warrior shit going on in America.

I am sorry you can't debate about something without getting so emotional.

Maybe, just maybe, he apologized because he realized he had unintentionally given offense? Have you ever thought that is possible? Has it occurred to you that some people, when they make a mistake, say "I'm sorry" and mean it? That they don't say "the problem is you"?

You are sure suffering, aren't you? It really makes you suffer that some "other" people want the same civil rights you take for granted? Like being left alone to go take a leak in a public restroom without men like you checking us out to see if we fit YOUR definition of "real" women or "real" men? Because you assume the right to define other people while being furious if someone questions you.

Of course, you talking about nonexistent PC police, using words like butt-hurt, forced conformity, that is not emotional because you're male. Only women get emotional. Men just are righteously angry.

 

[PtldPlatypus]

Of course, you talking about nonexistent PC police, using words like butt-hurt, forced conformity, that is not emotional because you're male. Only women get emotional. Men just are righteously angry.

You don't think it's unfair to automatically attribute discussion about emotional responses to sexism?

 

[dviss1]

We all got it before the thread was created and my attempt at showing how silly it is to compare humans to animals was to put it in persepective. One can read George Orwell or watch Sesame Street and see it. Monkey's are crazy athletic...deer are fast...pigs eat a lot...etc.....get it now? It's not racist...it's common...native americans often identified with spirit animals and even named children after them....literature is full of humanized animals...the whole concept that what he said was racist was ridiculous. If anything it was a compliment about how hard they were to guard...I'm the last guy you want to lecture about racism dviss

WTF are you talking about? No one is lecturing you about anything. I took your quote simply because it illustrated what I was trying to relay to the whole forum that what SA said was not racist.

 

[blue32]

Maybe, just maybe, he apologized because he realized he had unintentionally given offense? Have you ever thought that is possible? Has it occurred to you that some people, when they make a mistake, say "I'm sorry" and mean it? That they don't say "the problem is you"?

You are sure suffering, aren't you? It really makes you suffer that some "other" people want the same civil rights you take for granted? Like being left alone to go take a leak in a public restroom without men like you checking us out to see if we fit YOUR definition of "real" women or "real" men? Because you assume the right to define other people while being furious if someone questions you.

Of course, you talking about nonexistent PC police, using words like butt-hurt, forced conformity, that is not emotional because you're male. Only women get emotional. Men just are righteously angry.

I'll answer your questions in order:

1. Maybe he did apologize for that reason, but more than likely he didn't.
2. Did I think about it? Yes.
3. Do I know people say "im sorry" when they make mistakes? Yes.
4. Am I Suffering? No, but stay emotional please.
5. Does it make me suffer that 'other' people want the same civil rights as me? No, because they already have them. They are trying to get special unique snowflake ones.
6. I assume the right to define people? No. I don't. Men are men, Women are Women, check their genes.

And your last bit, is just ramble. So carry on.

 

[blue32]

Pro tip: during the off season of an election year, people are FUCKING ASSHOLES to each other.

If having a debate about two differing opinions is being assholes, then call me one

 

[dviss1]

Yeah, exactly. Like I said above. If you don't fall in line, you are labeled.

Bullshit. I completely dispelled this notion earlier. Saying black people look monkeys is racist however the context in which SA used it was not.

 

[riverman]

deleted the last one...sorry dviss if I misunderstood your post...I've now had a second cup of coffee

 

[riverman]

Obviously "monkey" is taboo because there's a long history of abuse of "science" to assert people with dark skin are inferior and ape-like.

monkeys aren't apes...learn the game then post

 

[Denny Crane]

monkeys aren't apes...learn the game then post

http://www.theroot.com/articles/cul...e_to_monkeys_it_s_worse_than_you_thought.html

 

[dviss1]

I think it was the tag you wrote...get it now...that was it...I got it in 1965...maybe you just misunderstood my post or disagreed with my sense of humor about animal comparisons....they are not highly intellectual examples...just the stuff of children's movies...it's ok...nowhere did I see looks like a monkey or cops shooting a monkey...I think you were baiting me a bit my friend and that's just unnecessary. It's probably me who is reading this the wrong way and that happens

I wasn't even talking to you specifically. You were quoting adverbs describing actions of animals that were not racist. I simply pointed out one that was. I want to say that cartoon was ran (about Obama) in the Times? It was simply to illustrate the difference between what's really racist and how what SA said was not.

 

[blue32]

Bullshit. I completely dispelled this notion earlier. Saying black people look monkeys is racist however the context in which SA used it was not.

You keep thinking "You" speak for everyone.

Clearly you do not. Thus why this Adams shit made news headlines.

 

[dviss1]

You keep thinking "You" speak for everyone.

Clearly you do not. Thus why this Adams shit made news headlines.

HILARIOUS...

Even the yahoo story made light of it:

"It’s certainly an uncomfortable moment, but it qualifies as a gaffe rather than anything more sinister. Adams, as you may be able to tell from his accent, is from New Zealand, and while playing basketball in the United States for four years has been enough to get him acclimated professionally, it’s not enough time to internalize the endless idioms of American culture."

This article simply gave you license to go on some phony outrage PC police rant. When the truth of the matter is the no one cares about what he said and no one thinks he's racist for saying it.

Where are these PC police? Who is publicly indicting and admonishing him?

 

[blue32]

HILARIOUS...

Even the yahoo story made light of it:

"It’s certainly an uncomfortable moment, but it qualifies as a gaffe rather than anything more sinister. Adams, as you may be able to tell from his accent, is from New Zealand, and while playing basketball in the United States for four years has been enough to get him acclimated professionally, it’s not enough time to internalize the endless idioms of American culture."

This article simply gave you license to go on some phony outrage PC police rant. When the truth of the matter is the no one cares about what he said and no one thinks he's racist for saying it.

Where are these PC police? Who is publicly indicting and admonishing him?

The fact that it made news in the first place is all the evidence I need (google it, its everywhere), as it spawned tons of complaints elsewhere. Hence the PC Police. It was subtle, but it's there.

Thanks, try again.

 

[dviss1]

Go to the comment section of the story (normally filled with some of thr most vile, hateful words). The only negativity is people complaining about these non existent PC police.

 

[blue32]

Go to the comment section of the story (normally filled with some of thr most vile, hateful words). The only negativity is people complaining about these non existent PC police.

You're missing the point dude. The mere fact that it was even brought up across media outlets, in of itself, is the PC Police trying to start something. Like I said, it was a very clever subtle way of pushing agenda.

 

[dviss1]

The fact that it made news in the first place is all the evidence I need (google it, its everywhere), as it spawned tons of complaints elsewhere. Hence the PC Police.

Thanks, try again.

Cool story bro. But that doesn't prove your point like you think it does.

He literally referred to black people playing basketball as resembling monkeys. He then apologized. Historically referring to black people in that manner has been racist. That's the reason why it made news. Not because some PC police was coming out chastising him about it because that simply didn't happen. I didn't miss the point.

Now if that was done with a Southern accent as opposed to and New Zealand Australian accent then maybe there would have been some uproar. Most everyone knows he was not being racist.

 

[dviss1]

Now let's ask ourselves a different question:

Where is the uproar coming from?

The only uproar is coming from people complaining about imaginary PC police.

 

[blue32]

Cool story bro. But that doesn't prove your point like you think it does.

He literally referred to black people playing basketball as resembling monkeys. He then apologized. Historically referring to black people in that manner has been racist. That's the reason why it made news. Not because some PC police was coming out chastising him about it because that simply didn't happen. I didn't miss the point.

Now if that was done with a Southern accent as opposed to and New Zealand Australian accent then maybe there would have been some uproar. Most everyone knows he was not being racist.

Certainly does make my point.. If most everyone knew he wasn't being racist, then it should have been a non-story. The whole reason it was published was because people are trying to make something out of nothing and he had to apologize to quiet down the media bullshit.