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CupWizier said:
So typical of you. As long as it is statistical small that you or anyone you know might get shot in a school shooting it's a non issue then. Remember the other day you claimed if I met you I would like you? That statistically happening is smaller than .0001% which means you have a bigger chance of being shot at a school. :crazy:
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No, to implement something like this based on cost, putting it in every school, assuming the children will be in a position to use this and taking into account the likelihood of a school shooting, this is a really dumb concept that appeals to emotions and hype rather than common sense and practicality.
 
CupWizier said:
Rivereman can hold his own just fine.
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He even went so far as to call out Bonesjones for not making a post in his thread about having health issues, like it was some kind of deliberate slight on the part of Bones. To me, that was WAY worse than anything Bones has ever said to him. To insinuate that Bones wished him bad health or something to that effect. Just debate the topic.
 
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EL PRESIDENTE said:
No, to implement something like this based on cost, putting it in every school, assuming the children will be in a position to use this and taking into account the likelihood of a school shooting, this is a really dumb concept that appeals to emotions and hype rather than common sense and practicality.
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It wouldn't be something that would be implemented in every school; it would be something individual schools (private) and districts (public) would analyze and evaluate the feasibility, and potentially implement ad hoc.

And were they to do so, its greatest effect would not be to repel bullets or to deter a would-be shooter, but to provide a degree of comfort to students who might otherwise be negatively impacted by fear of a possible shooting at their school. It's like life insurance; you don't purchase it for the payout, but for the peace of mind.
 
Natebishop3 said:
And when was that? You guys keep talking about schools and most of you are in your 60s or older. What's your most recent experience with the current situation in our education system?
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I am 33. I am a teacher
 
This thread is ripe for a Whitney Houston song.
 
Chris Craig said:
You don't think our kids are our future?
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I think it's a catchy sound byte that gets thrown around a lot. I think kids are molded by a lot more than just school. They are indirectly affected by a myriad of other factors that aren't directly mentioned when people wax poetic about how kids are the future.

My grandparents grew up during the great depression, and then immediately went into World War II. This had a profound effect on how they viewed society and life as a whole. My grandmother was very frugal, even into the twilight of her life. By comparison, we have all lived very sheltered lives. We haven't known disease or famine or war like that generation did. Those things shape children. The baby boomers grew up in single income families (for the most part). They didn't have the internet or video games. They were able to afford to buy homes and go to college with minimal student debt. And from that the boomers have given us some of the most corrupt and greedy government in the history of this country. The Iraq and Afghanistan wars. The ability to patent life and the rise of Monsanto. The housing crash of 2008. Soaring housing prices and national deficit. And now Trump..... this is all from a generation that was raised by what many consider to be the greatest generation.

So now the millennials are coming into power, and we were raised by the boomers. We got a mix of single and double family incomes. We have a ton of student debt. Many of us can't buy homes. Many of us served in those wars. We were told we needed a college education to be successful, but a lot of people have degrees that they can't pay for. We were told to buy property, but many of us can't even afford to pay rent in our cities. We see the environment failing because of horrible regulations by past generations. We see corruption, blatant corruption, from our government. And all the while we have our children growing up in this mess.

So while I think school is vital, I think the issue is much larger than investing in our future. The children of today are being molded by the world that was created by their grand parents and their great grandparents etc etc etc. Will they be able to even attend college? Will they be able to buy homes? What kind of jobs will there be when they get out of school? Will we see a rise in infections because people have built up a resistance to strains of bacteria from over prescribing antibiotics? There are so many things that are looking bleak, and it's just not as simple as investing in our future. We need to invest in the now. Immediately.
 
riverman said:
didn't say it as an excuse...schools can hardly keep their budgets to complete a school year as it is...fact...money is the reason they don't have bullet proof walls right now...also why we don't all have bullet proof cars....I'm not disagreeing that it could help...I'm saying the money is just not there..computers are needed in schools too...thanks to Bill Gates our local small school and library have computers from the Gates foundation...maybe the NRA could bulletproof our schools but the tax levy for public schools sure won't afford to do it. Good to see a student using original thought to come up with the idea though.
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The money is there. It's just been appropriated for war. Why didn't trump spend more federal money on schools instead of adding 78 billion to an already over bloated 611billion in "defense" spending?

It's cause he's a dirty trash can full of poop.
 
Natebishop3 said:
I think it's a catchy sound byte that gets thrown around a lot. I think kids are molded by a lot more than just school. They are indirectly affected by a myriad of other factors that aren't directly mentioned when people wax poetic about how kids are the future.

My grandparents grew up during the great depression, and then immediately went into World War II. This had a profound effect on how they viewed society and life as a whole. My grandmother was very frugal, even into the twilight of her life. By comparison, we have all lived very sheltered lives. We haven't known disease or famine or war like that generation did. Those things shape children. The baby boomers grew up in single income families (for the most part). They didn't have the internet or video games. They were able to afford to buy homes and go to college with minimal student debt. And from that the boomers have given us some of the most corrupt and greedy government in the history of this country. The Iraq and Afghanistan wars. The ability to patent life and the rise of Monsanto. The housing crash of 2008. Soaring housing prices and national deficit. And now Trump..... this is all from a generation that was raised by what many consider to be the greatest generation.

So now the millennials are coming into power, and we were raised by the boomers. We got a mix of single and double family incomes. We have a ton of student debt. Many of us can't buy homes. Many of us served in those wars. We were told we needed a college education to be successful, but a lot of people have degrees that they can't pay for. We were told to buy property, but many of us can't even afford to pay rent in our cities. We see the environment failing because of horrible regulations by past generations. We see corruption, blatant corruption, from our government. And all the while we have our children growing up in this mess.

So while I think school is vital, I think the issue is much larger than investing in our future. The children of today are being molded by the world that was created by their grand parents and their great grandparents etc etc etc. Will they be able to even attend college? Will they be able to buy homes? What kind of jobs will there be when they get out of school? Will we see a rise in infections because people have built up a resistance to strains of bacteria from over prescribing antibiotics? There are so many things that are looking bleak, and it's just not as simple as investing in our future. We need to invest in the now. Immediately.
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So you'd agree spending money on war is a waste?

Every time a bomb is built its a waste of money. Either it sits unused or it's used and it destroys something including itself.
 
PtldPlatypus said:
It wouldn't be something that would be implemented in every school; it would be something individual schools (private) and districts (public) would analyze and evaluate the feasibility, and potentially implement ad hoc.

And were they to do so, its greatest effect would not be to repel bullets or to deter a would-be shooter, but to provide a degree of comfort to students who might otherwise be negatively impacted by fear of a possible shooting at their school. It's like life insurance; you don't purchase it for the payout, but for the peace of mind.
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That's just it, nobody has said this needs to be done, but are instead commending a young kid that was innovative and came up with an idea. That's much more than our President and administration has done as they continually ignore the issue. That's my biggest issue with el presidente as he seems to be of the mindset that if it hasn't affected him then it's a non issue.
 
dviss1 said:
So you'd agree spending money on war is a waste?

Every time a bomb is built its a waste of money. Either it sits unused or it's used and it destroys something including itself.
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Absolutely. The wars were a complete waste of money and human life. And in the end all it was about was padding the pockets of companies like Haliburton. War is big business.
 
Natebishop3 said:
Run to mommy (Sly) so she can fight your battles for you.
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That's what I would call a personal attack on two people.

How about comment on the post and leave the poster out of it?
 
riverman said:
yeah...we're done...I'll let the forum deal with your insults ...flagged them...now I'll just put you back on ignore and not engage your personal judgements...I'll ask you to not engage my posts as I have no desire to read anything you have to say on the subject...good luck to you
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If you activate the ignore feature you shouldn't see any posts from whomever you 'ignore'.
 
Lanny said:
If you activate the ignore feature you shouldn't see any posts from whomever you 'ignore'.
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only if you are not logged on Lanny....when I'm logged on it clears up the boards very well but if I just open the site it's all there....for me it helps...I've had maris on ignore forever but I often skim the forum without logging on...recently I've engaged maris because of that and really, I should know better...I'm getting better at it. Trying to not clog the threads with responses to insults...just flag them and ignore them...I've no time for baited insults around here. I've said many times...this place should be fun and informative...mods here do a good job but they need to know when someone is slinging mud just to sling mud. Life is a process of elimination.
 
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riverman said:
I successfully raised a son in Oregon...he graduated several years ago from OSU...I have grandchildren who go to school now in the US ...I retired from teaching 5 years ago....go ahead and disrespect that. Asian education puts a high value on the wisdom of the elders....more often than not those kids are raised by grandparents while their parents work several jobs to make money for....yeah...the kid's education
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I think their emphasis on education is starting to pay big dividends.

The president of Samsung sends his son to my great nephew's school. They are good buddies. Excellent academic school also a religious school. Our religion allows women and homosexuals to be priests. It is the same sect as the Bush family, President Lyndon Johnson and President Trump.

Why can't public schools be provided the same resources as my great nephew's school? Of course, tuition at his school is $40,000/yr. with no public money. We should put our money where our mouths are. People want excellent schools for bargain basement prices.
 
Lanny said:
That's what I would call a personal attack on two people.

How about comment on the post and leave the poster out of it?
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Why is it okay that he makes it about more than the topic? I'm not allowed to respond to him? He constantly gets emotional during arguments and then plays the victim. It's tiresome and I'm going to call him out on it. Period. He called me an asshole, which was much worse than anything I said about him.

And Sly is my friend, so I'm allowed to call him mommy.
 
Natebishop3 said:
Why is it okay that he makes it about more than the topic? I'm not allowed to respond to him? He constantly gets emotional during arguments and then plays the victim. It's tiresome and I'm going to call him out on it. Period. He called me an asshole, which was much worse than anything I said about him.

And Sly is my friend, so I'm allowed to call him mommy.
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He shouldn't do those things but he's been my friend for a long time and I hate to lecture him. Yeah, it's one of my many shortcomings. How many shortcomings? I dunno, ask my wife.

You know what, every Sunday I ask for the strength to know my shortcomings and to correct them. I do my best but I'm flawed.
 
Armed guards, teachers, adult students are cheaper and more effective.
 
riverman said:
I you ever need heart surgery, be sure and find a doctor to do the procedure who's never been to school....find one who learned on youtube
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Actually, many of the best surgeons in the world learned primarily by remote tv and the internet, in far less time than the traditional college route.

Brick and mortar schools from kindergarten on up have just about run their course and you'll be seeing a new kind of home schooling in a couple decades as just about everything we do will be at home, on a screen.

Traditional schooling spends a year teaching you a month's worth of knowledge. So much wasted time and distraction, unwanted indoctrination, travel time, pollution caused by travel, enormous cost...
 
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