Summer 2025 trade targets?

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PtldPlatypus said:
Yep, we know that that is the case to date. We also know that he has been overweight, has eaten trash, and seemingly has had a poor work ethic. All of which are likely contributing factors to his lack of availability.

If those contributing factors have changed, then it would stand to reason that there's a much better chance that his availability issues could also change. No guarantees, obviously, but it would be worth a shot, depending on the acquisition cost.
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Depends on who we could get for him, if it's say Ant and Grant, sure I would do that in a heartbeat. But its not happening, nor would I want to send out 3 first round picks as suggested. Maybe 1 at most imo.

I wanted to get Zion when Dame was demanding out, to pair him with Dame and so Dame would stay and trade the #3.

Didn't happen. so to get him now, would be to costly imo.
 
Pinwheel1 said:
I think their biggest need if they trade Zion is a center who can score. I would start with Ayton and our first.
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That would be a fantastic low-risk swing. I'd be surprised if they were interested in Ayton, but I wouldn't complain.
 
sheed30 said:
Dude can't stay available man.

To date, in 5 NBA seasons, he has only be available for 50.7% of his games played so far. Missed all the playoff games so far as well.
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Find me a potential difference maker we have a chance in hell for then. Adding guys like Aminu and Harkless isn’t going to get it done. Those are wasted years
 
PtldPlatypus said:
That would be a fantastic low-risk swing. I'd be surprised if they were interested in Ayton, but I wouldn't complain.
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If their goal was to save money (ending contract next summer) and get a trade asset then Ayton is a pretty good option. Although N.O. would probably ask for our pick and a future pick.
Plus they could try to re-sign him for less. Ayton has skills, it's not like he is worthless.
 
Mediocre Man said:
Find me a potential difference maker we have a chance in hell for then. Adding guys like Aminu and Harkless isn’t going to get it done. Those are wasted years
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I agree

some people are chattering about Jabari Smith...really? Another role player with a low ceiling. He wouldn't alter the Blazer trajectory at all

on the other hand, a healthy Zion could. But that might be a fictional character
 
I think the Pels would get a better offer than what Joe could muster. Teams like BKN, OKC, UTA have lots and lots of picks. OKC owns 15 frp I think and BKN 10.
POR can trade it's 2025 and 2029, but not it's 2026 or 2027 or 2028 (unless CHI got their pick between now and then). Stepian rule
 
Cugel said:
I think the Pels would get a better offer than what Joe could muster. Teams like BKN, OKC, UTA have lots and lots of picks. OKC owns 15 frp I think and BKN 10.
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The Spurs own quite a few picks too. Wemby & Zion would be pretty dynamic...assuming both are healthy
 
wizenheimer said:
The Spurs own quite a few picks too. Wemby & Zion would be pretty dynamic...assuming both are healthy
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yep. Spurs are loaded with talent and picks. They have a 7% chance at Flagg.
 
Pinwheel1 said:
I think their biggest need if they trade Zion is a center who can score. I would start with Ayton and our first.
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I think it would be very tempting but I also think the Pelicans would want a haul back for him. Zion still has superstar potential. We would probably have to part with Camara or Sharpe.
 
Yes, other teams in theory CAN offer more, but I feel like we fall in to that trap all the time here. When Boston had their "warchest" of picks, that could beat any offer...they never did. Surely okc could beat any offer for Luka. For AD. For Ingram. For Jimmy butler. For DeAndre Hunter. For Kyle kuzma. For Bogdan Bogdanovic. For Dorian Finney Smith.
Etc.
 
RR7 said:
Yes, other teams in theory CAN offer more, but I feel like we fall in to that trap all the time here. When Boston had their "warchest" of picks, that could beat any offer...they never did. Surely okc could beat any offer for Luka. For AD. For Ingram. For Jimmy butler. For DeAndre Hunter. For Kyle kuzma. For Bogdan Bogdanovic. For Dorian Finney Smith.
Etc.
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A lot of teams probably don't want to roll the dice on Zion either.
 
POR only has two tradable FRP. Joe has shit for assets.

this is exactly why I would argue:

A) should have traded the vets at the deadline for picks

B) tank harder to get a better pick this year.



POR is not getting an all star ready player via trade or free agency.
 
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I agree with RR7 that there are always teams that have a huge pot of EXTRA tradable first's and that they could control the market for available stars...but rarely do. Presti has been sitting a bazillion extra picks for years now

Phoenix didn't have extra 1st's to trade for Durant; they just traded their own. Cleveland traded their own for Mitchell. Boston traded their own for Jrue. Minny traded their own for Gobert. I forget if the Knicks had any extra picks they added for KAT and Bridges,; maybe.

the issue isn't an abundance of picks or a normal amount of picks. The issue is matching salary without cutting too deep into existing talent; and being in a situation where a star makes sense as far as timeline. Stars usually have high salaries; Zion's salary will be nearly 40M next season

so theoretically the Blazers could at least try and compete for a player like Zion. The problem is that all their 1st's thru 2028 are encumbered. Sure, there can be contingent trades of picks but still, that encumbrance makes Portland's picks less valuable
 
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Cugel said:
POR only has two tradable FRP. Joe has shit for assets.

this is exactly why I would argue:

A) should have traded the vets at the deadline for picks

B) tank harder to get a better pick this year.



POR is not getting an all star ready player via trade or free agency.
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This is just wrong. We have the Milwaukee swaps, which could very well be worth something. We could also unlock a ton of future picks if we wanted to.
 
Mediocre Man said:
Swing for the fences

Ant is trash

we need talent, not more picks
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Trading ANY assets for Zion "I don't ever fuckin play" Williamson is crazy talk.

He's not a hard worker. He's overweight and always will be. Past performance is the best predictor of future performance.

Calling Ant Trash is wild.
 
cheesehoff said:
Redundant doesn't always have to be a negative. Actually, I like the direction of the team having so many guys like Barrett. They have different strengths offensively, but on the defensive end there's so much switchability that pick & roll offenses don't have nearly as much of an advantage as they normally do. Having a bunch of 6'6" to 6'9" guys that can guard 1 thru 4 (sometimes 5) is a pretty great foundation to build your defense from.
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We had redundancy with Dame and CJ. Then Dame and Ant. We've seen this movie before.
 
sheed30 said:
Dude can't stay available man.

To date, in 5 NBA seasons, he has only be available for 50.7% of his games played so far. Missed all the playoff games so far as well.
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To me, to even suggest Zion Williamson is crazy.

:crazy:
 
dviss1 said:
To me, to even suggest Zion Williamson is crazy.

:crazy:
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Then throw out a name. You don’t like Zion, and that’s great, but give your opinion on a possible star we can get to add to the roster.
 
dviss1 said:
That's a false choice that no one is advocating for. Not a good debate tactic.
We need to get these contracts off the books: Ant, Ayton, and Grant. Then do well in the draft. We're not built to win now.
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Do well in the draft, drafting 10th is a big ask. Certainly not impossible, but it’s hard to find Batman in the late lottery or right out of it. We just had 7, 3, 7 and couldn’t do it
 
dviss1 said:
Trading ANY assets for Zion "I don't ever fuckin play" Williamson is crazy talk.

He's not a hard worker. He's overweight and always will be. Past performance is the best predictor of future performance.

Calling Ant Trash is wild.
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Ant is awful. He’s a 7 year vet chucker who has a career PER under the league average. He’s also a shitty defender. Sharpe needs to take a major step or he’ll end up just like him
 
Natebishop3 said:
This is just wrong. We have the Milwaukee swaps, which could very well be worth something. We could also unlock a ton of future picks if we wanted to.
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Outline how POR comes up with 3 unprotected FRPs
 
If Blazers traded for Zion, his legs would explode when he lands at PDX. This is just the law of the Blazers.
 
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