Summer "BIG Swing" trade

[Natebishop3]

yeah, I'm just having trouble with the notion the Blazers can get enough value for the unprotected 2029 1st in a Giannis trade to make it worthwhile.

Yeah I have no idea what value they have or how interested Milwaukee is in getting them back..... but we should at least be open to the idea.

 

[wizenheimer]

Yeah I have no idea what value they have or how interested Milwaukee is in getting them back..... but we should at least be open to the idea.

sure. But, I'd think the Bucks, if they are dumping Giannis, would place a lot higher value on 2025-2027 picks than a pick in 2029

 

[Sheldon Shape]

I'd be most interested in Amen Thompson and Reed Shepard. Short of either, I'd hold onto the picks.

 

[Natebishop3]

sure. But, I'd think the Bucks, if they are dumping Giannis, would place a lot higher value on 2025-2027 picks than a pick in 2029

For sure. I think New Orleans is in a better spot.

 

[Sheldon Shape]

For sure. I think New Orleans is in a better spot.

Sad!

 

[SharpesTriumph]

Yeah, we will be the third wheel that gets the shaft.

Did Houston get shafted in the Bridges deal?

No reason we should be shafted - we just say no thanks in that case. Only reason for us to do a deal is if we receive more value than we send out.

 

[SharpesTriumph]

yeah, I'm just having trouble with the notion the Blazers can get enough value for the unprotected 2029 1st in a Giannis trade to make it worthwhile.

Houston owns a number of unprotected Phoenix picks. Those look pretty damn good as well. Might be the Bucks prefer their own pick just as Brooklyn did.

 

[SharpesTriumph]

sure. But, I'd think the Bucks, if they are dumping Giannis, would place a lot higher value on 2025-2027 picks than a pick in 2029

2025 lottery is set and over. While teams might want a 2025 pick no team cares about controlling their own once the lottery is done.

Pelicans have one Milwaukee swap and one unprotected pick. We have more, in a 2nd swap plus our best 2029 effectively has two swaps in it. So we effectively own 4 unprotected swaps and an unprotected pick.

 

[Foxx]

Likely to get their pick back

Mfs gonna pay us a price. Not our fault y’all aped your whole savings for an old Dame

 

[Foxx]

Mfs gonna pay us a price. Not our fault y’all aped your whole savings for an old Dame

I want Jabari Smith Jr, Domantas Sabonis and any other buy low opportunities that have a ceiling of a championship role player. No giveaways

 

[wizenheimer]

2025 lottery is set and over. While teams might want a 2025 pick no team cares about controlling their own once the lottery is done.

Pelicans have one Milwaukee swap and one unprotected pick. We have more, in a 2nd swap plus our best 2029 effectively has two swaps in it. So we effectively own 4 unprotected swaps and an unprotected pick.

you're working way too hard at this

as I said, I simply can't believe that within the framework of a Giannis trade, there would be enough value in surplus assets floating around that would warrant the Blazers sending out Milwaukee's 2029 first

as for the pick swaps:





https://www.theringer.com/2022/10/12/nba/nba-draft-swap-picks

 

[BigGameDamian]

 

[wizenheimer]

in reply to that trade proposal, I said this at RealGM:

Sam Quinn can go pound an acre of sand with his forehead. Fuggin idiotic trade

 

[Chris Craig]

Hell no

Way way too much.

So tired of seeing proposals like this that fleece us like we are just here for spare parts. Fuck that.

The Milwaukee pick better not be moved unless we get gold. This year's pick better be used wisely too in any trade.

 

[inconceivable]

Hell no

Way way too much.

So tired of seeing proposals like this that fleece us like we are just here for spare parts. Fuck that.

The Milwaukee pick better not be moved unless we get gold. This year's pick better be used wisely too in any trade.

it's gonna be Ant and 11 for Paolo

 

[JfizzleBlazer]

it's gonna be Ant and 11 for Paolo

Paolo isn't going anywhere.

 

[Natebishop3]

Markkanen is so overrated.

 

[Cugel]

Lauri is a third option, a good one, but POR has Deni for way less cash

 

[SharpesTriumph]

within the framework of a Giannis trade, there would be enough value in surplus assets floating around that would warrant the Blazers sending out Milwaukee's 2029 first

It really comes down to if Milwaukee wants to send us more value than their picks are worth to us for us to return them.

The Nets did that with Houston.

In theory there's a rational for it, Milwaukee can then tank and get the benefits of their own picks. Their not going to tank if we get the pick. So in theory the pick should be worth more to Milwaukee than us.

Will they give us enough value to have the trade make sense from our end? Who knows - it's possible and happens sometimes in similar situations. But it often doesn't happen.

 

[Wizard Mentor]

Who says no? Wizards may need Rupert and another 2nd rounder.

Ant, Tou, Deni, Giannis, Clingan
(Brogdan), Green, Middleton, Thybulle, RobWill/Reath

 

[ant]

Who says no? Wizards may need Rupert and another 2nd rounder.

Ant, Tou, Deni, Giannis, Clingan
(Brogdan), Green, Middleton, Thybulle, RobWill/Reath

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Kinda interesting! We’re handing back valuable swaps, giving up young talent, but keeping our own (and Celtic’s) FRPs.

 

[Sheldon Shape]

Any way we can use the Bucks picks to snatch Dylan Harper instead of the Bucks?

 

[Cugel]

Not even a drop in the bucket to land giannis

 

[CJ_is_Gone]

Who says no? Wizards may need Rupert and another 2nd rounder.

Ant, Tou, Deni, Giannis, Clingan
(Brogdan), Green, Middleton, Thybulle, RobWill/Reath

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Bucks & Wizards say no...
This isn't close

 

[Wizard Mentor]

Bucks & Wizards say no...
This isn't close

disagree.

 

[inconceivable]

Durant, Giannis, Celtics starters, plus key players from Wolves Thunder Knicks Pacers, whoever doesn't win it all, will be on the move. This is gunna be an interesting summer

 

[BigGameDamian]

Don’t count Denver out of t KD sweepstakes.

 

[wizenheimer]

Durant, Giannis, Celtics starters, plus key players from Wolves Thunder Knicks Pacers, whoever doesn't win it all, will be on the move. This is gunna be an interesting summer

probably

and the list could include Trae Young & Devin Booker. Max salaries + 2nd Apron is having a big impact

 

[BigGameDamian]

Would you like to see the Blazers go after Darius Garland, Trae Young or maybe even De’Aaron Fox if the Spurs draft Dylan Harper?

 

[Sheldon Shape]

Would you like to see the Blazers go after Darius Garland, Trae Young or maybe even De’Aaron Fox if the Spurs draft Dylan Harper?

The two way impact of Scoot during those three months gives me enough hope that Scoot, when a full time starter, will have more overall impact than those players you listed.