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Natebishop3

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Anyone else noticing how much hype is generated by the SL now? Blake Griffin drops big numbers on some scrubs and the media can't stop gushing about him. Obviously some very good players have come through the SL, but it's hardly a measuring stick. Qyntel Woods..... need I say more?

I just remember when the SL was hardly covered by the press... it was just something that teams would participate in, and the only real evidence that it occurred was box scores. Now it's a huge event with sponsors and coverage from the NBA, ESPN, and other sources.
 
FWIW- I have a friend who did SL, Euro league and D-league . . . before giving up and getting a masters in business. He hated SL . . . said it was a shit league where everyone is after their own self interest . . . just bad mouthed it for a good five minutes.
 
Summer League means nothing. Except when JayBay tears it up, because he's just using those scrubs to ramp up his blood lust.
 
Imaginary Summer League!

who was taht old dude that went into summer league a few years ago and just dominated?
 
I think it's cool. I like baseball just fine, but the NBA is my favorite sport and if there's news to follow year around, then I'm pleased.

I'm not worried that there have been false positives in the SL in the past. Even Qyntel Woods could have been an impact player, IMO, if he had his head on straight. He did not, and it showed up in the long run in the NBA although there were only glimpses of his inadequacies in SL.

Just take everything in SL with a grain of salt and enjoy it... that's what I try to do.

Ed O.
 
Hell if I remember right even Mark Bryant dominated summer league.
 
Damn, that same link, Ricky Davis had 57 points, 10 rebounds, 10 assists. Wonder if one of those rebounds was off the opposing basket?
 
Ed O said:
I think it's cool. I like baseball just fine, but the NBA is my favorite sport and if there's news to follow year around, then I'm pleased.

I'm not worried that there have been false positives in the SL in the past. Even Qyntel Woods could have been an impact player, IMO, if he had his head on straight. He did not, and it showed up in the long run in the NBA although there were only glimpses of his inadequacies in SL.

Just take everything in SL with a grain of salt and enjoy it... that's what I try to do.

Ed O.
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I enjoy it too Ed, but the way they're talking about Griffin... it's crazy. He is playing against some extremely crappy competition. I think it's more difficult to do well as a guard in SL than a center or power forward. There's some pretty good competition at the guard spots. A decent big man should be able to dominate because they're going against guys who generally won't even sniff the NBA. Bayless on the other hand went against Quincy Douby and DeMar DeRozan.
 
Let's put this "Bo Outlaw dominated Summer League" myth to rest, please. The "Summer Pro League" was essentially two leagues playing alongside each other. There were the actual Pro Team summer leagues, and then there were teams called things like "The KCRW SlammaJAmmas" who were glorified pickup teams. The two never coincided. Once in a while actual pros like Bo Outlaw took part in games played by the latter group and, naturally, dominated, just as they would if they showed up at your local Y. So what Bo "dominated" (as did Penny Hardaway POST injury) was a pickup game that happened to have stat keepers around.

Next Myth: Qyntel Woods summer league MVP. Zach Randolph, yes. Aaron Brooks, yes. Hell, even Randy Foye. But not Qyntel Woods.
 
Rastapopoulos said:
Let's put this "Bo Outlaw dominated Summer League" myth to rest, please. The "Summer Pro League" was essentially two leagues playing alongside each other. There were the actual Pro Team summer leagues, and then there were teams called things like "The KCRW SlammaJAmmas" who were glorified pickup teams. The two never coincided. Once in a while actual pros like Bo Outlaw took part in games played by the latter group and, naturally, dominated, just as they would if they showed up at your local Y. So what Bo "dominated" (as did Penny Hardaway POST injury) was a pickup game that happened to have stat keepers around.

Next Myth: Qyntel Woods summer league MVP. Zach Randolph, yes. Aaron Brooks, yes. Hell, even Randy Foye. But not Qyntel Woods.
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I'm pretty sure you're wrong. I think Qyntel was the MVP of the Rocky Mountain Review.
 
Summer League does not matter IMO. Not one bit other than to see if a player is a complete bust or looks lost on the court. Fortunately, neither of the Blazers' 2nd round picks looked lost on the court last night.
 
Natebishop3 said:
That must have been what I was thinking.
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Woods ripped it up at that RMR but got hurt and didn't play the entire session. On a side note, who would have guessed that Steve Blake would be the only NBA starter from that Maryland team at this point? (Baxter, Dixon, Wilcox also in the NBA to varying success)
 
Natebishop3 said:
I'm pretty sure you're wrong. I think Qyntel was the MVP of the Rocky Mountain Review.
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When in fact, you're the one that's wrong. But don't feel bad, the Qyntel-as-MVP myth is a stubborn one. It will come out next year as well, and so will the Bo Outlaw one. They mean too much to too many people. They may not be strictly true, but they have religious truth.
 
Minstrel said:
Qyntel dominated a summer league, but was never MVP, as I recall.
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He didn't even "dominate" it. He had one high scoring game, but struggled mightily thereafter. And I think he came back the next year and did squat.
 
Rastapopoulos said:
When in fact, you're the one that's wrong. But don't feel bad, the Qyntel-as-MVP myth is a stubborn one. It will come out next year as well, and so will the Bo Outlaw one. They mean too much to too many people. They may not be strictly true, but they have religious truth.
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Speaking of HYPErbole. ;)

I linked it all though. You were right, as many others know as well.
 
Rastapopoulos said:
He didn't even "dominate" it. He had one high scoring game, but struggled mightily thereafter. And I think he came back the next year and did squat.
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That is incorrect. I was there for every Blazer game both years that Qyntel played, and he scored at will. Not saying he was a team player because he dominated the ball. The second year he really looked to turn the corner. He cut his hair, mingled with the fans and teammates and his attitude was much better. But then the story broke......and it was too late for him.
 
You know I don't know why you are ripping on Griffin. He will be a good player. No need for this. They are only talking about it because it is the only thing going on in basketball right now. There are no trades happening, no contracts have been offered lately. No updates on contract talks. So what do they do? Well how is Blake Griffin doing in the summer league. I'll tell you this. He sure is doing a hell of a lot better than some of our past players. That is better than a stick in the eye if your a Clippers fan.
 
Rastapopoulos said:
When in fact, you're the one that's wrong. But don't feel bad, the Qyntel-as-MVP myth is a stubborn one. It will come out next year as well, and so will the Bo Outlaw one. They mean too much to too many people. They may not be strictly true, but they have religious truth.
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Book of BS basketball myth verse one chapter three.

"And Lo' KP had struggled mightily and angered many a GM as he created his team from but dust and clay. Looking down upon his work KP did sayeth 'I certainly pritchslapped those bitch ass other GM's I'm a god damn genius!' And yea, he even looked upon a Summer League box score and swore 'Well, I'll be damned Qyntel Woods won the MVP ! I think I shall write an angry memo to Memphis just to piss them off.'

And verily did he piss off many a GM, blowing off many a trade for RLEC, yea he even passedeth up a trade of RLEC for Devin Harris straight across for his ego had become swollen like the Nile in the spring. So mighty in ego had he become, that he did look upon the team salary and said to himself 'I think I shall fuck with Brandon of Roy over a 5th contract year, for I care not that he is 7th in PER, for mine ego surpasseth all!' "

So sayeth the book of BS basketball myth holiest of all basketball tomes. Quiver mortal and believe for it has been said upon the Internets and therefore is the word of God himself!
 
hasoos said:
You know I don't know why you are ripping on Griffin. He will be a good player. No need for this. They are only talking about it because it is the only thing going on in basketball right now. There are no trades happening, no contracts have been offered lately. No updates on contract talks. So what do they do? Well how is Blake Griffin doing in the summer league. I'll tell you this. He sure is doing a hell of a lot better than some of our past players. That is better than a stick in the eye if your a Clippers fan.
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Who is ripping on him? I'm just saying the SL doesn't really mean much, but the media is making it sound like he had his NBA regular season debut last night.
 
Natebishop3 said:
Who is ripping on him? I'm just saying the SL doesn't really mean much, but the media is making it sound like he had his NBA regular season debut last night.
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Well it doesn't take too much to see between the lines. Basically I view not giving credit where credit is due, is denial.

What if he had done horrible in the summer league like Oden did? That would have been way worse.

What did Blake do? He did exactly what he should have for being a #1 pick. He came out and kicked ass. No need to take anything away from him.
 
hasoos said:
Well it doesn't take too much to see between the lines. Basically I view not giving credit where credit is due, is denial.

What if he had done horrible in the summer league like Oden did? That would have been way worse.

What did Blake do? He did exactly what he should have for being a #1 pick. He came out and kicked ass. No need to take anything away from him.
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Does that mean the media was correct in blasting Oden for his miserable Summer League performance?
 
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