Nikolokolus
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Game is so pussified now.
Indeed.
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Game is so pussified now.
I couldn't possibly disagree more. The NBA completely overreacted to fighting after the Pacers-Pistons brawl. I'm not saying that there shouldn't be repercussions for throwing a punch, but if guys want to square up and have it, it would eliminate a lot of the "fake tough guy posturing" bullshit that goes on now-a-days.
I couldn't possibly disagree more. The NBA completely overreacted to fighting after the Pacers-Pistons brawl. I'm not saying that there shouldn't be repercussions for throwing a punch, but if guys want to square up and have it, it would eliminate a lot of the "fake tough guy posturing" bullshit that goes on now-a-days.
It didn't look to me like Bogut threw an elbow; rather he pushed Freeland away, and accidentally connected with Freeland's throat in the process.Officials have been instructed to eject a player who throws a punch, whether or not it connects, or an elbow which makes contact above shoulder level. If elbow contact is shoulder level or below, it shall be left to the discretion of the official as to whether the player is ejected. Even if a punch or an elbow goes undetected by the officials during the game, but is detected during a review of a videotape, that player will be penalized.
It didn't look to me like Bogut threw an elbow; rather he pushed Freeland away, and accidentally connected with Freeland's throat in the process.
Do the rules/"instructions" mention anything about intent? Deliberate versus accidental?
It didn't look to me like Bogut threw an elbow; rather he pushed Freeland away, and accidentally connected with Freeland's throat in the process.
Do the rules/"instructions" mention anything about intent? Deliberate versus accidental?
I'm not sure what you're disagreeing with. The rule, or whether that should be the rule? I posted the rule. Bogut should be suspended under the rule, and if not, then the NBA has zero credibility and doesn't follow their own rules.
Well if the rules don't mention intent, then Bogut should have been thrown, and I can't see how he'll escape punishment after the review.
After watching this replay over and over, I really got to wonder what anyone could have expected from Mo. Sure, he ran into the whole thing and he didn't need to, but he started off trying to separate people, and the next thing you know he's being flung around like a rag doll with an arm through his jersey. I did see him come across the back of Bogut's head, but again, his arm was through Mo's jersey and he was kind of just throwing him around.
And I have to agree with Blazer Fanatic. No matter what you THINK should happen with players squaring off (and I agree to a certain extent, they are just a little too quick to call a slap or a shove something far worse than it is and as a result there's a lot of pretend tough guys in the league), the rules are quite clear about contact above the head. An elbow was driven into another player's neck and chin. He wasn't pushed into the man, he didn't slip and fall. The play was over, Bogut had hold of Joel's jersey in one hand pulling him in, and drove the elbow into him at the same time.
But having elbowgut on the floor as a target of rage was excellent. I like how the next play lillard went straight to the bucket and elbowgut was on his ass.Bogut is an epic jackass and got off scott free. I don't understand how Mo gets ejected for stepping between Bogut and the other players, and Bogut throws his hands into Mo's neck and face. From that top angle, Bogut makes contact with a 2 separate Blazers above the shoulders. IF Mo gets ejected, then Bogut must be ejected for shoving him in the face and neck. And that is even independent of the elbow Bogut throws and connects with Freeland's neck/chin. Just a horrible job by Bill POS Kennedy. Poop on Kennedy, and Bogut.
I don't understand how Mo gets ejected for stepping between Bogut and the other players, and Bogut throws his hands into Mo's neck and face. .
Which is why I won't be too surprised if LMA and/or Williams get a suspension. Even though Mo started out by trying to create separation between Bogut/Freeland, the scrum eventually pulled him into a more "escalating" role. LMA's charge/shove won't be seen as "peacemaker" in any way, shape, or form.Although I agree with everything you said, the league tends to penalize players who escalate events rather than those who commit a foul.
It was intentional to the throat. I have no question about that.
Didn't read or know the exact rules, but I thought a punch was a "closed fisted swing" ? There was only shoving last night.
Didn't read or know the exact rules, but I thought a punch was a "closed fisted swing" ? There was only shoving last night.
Didn't read or know the exact rules, but I thought a punch was a "closed fisted swing" ? There was only shoving last night.
Hey HCP - what was the truck like during the fracas?
Hey HCP - what was the truck like during the fracas?
Elbows are just as bad as a closed fist in the nba
It always gets crazy when this stuff goes down. We have to look at 8 different camera angles to find out what happened and show the refs. Last night we were lucky to have a robo can above the hoop. That angle always is the best.
You'd have to go back a ways to find when men were men and boys were boys as far as fighting goes in the NBA. The VAST majority of the fights are baseball fights.....lots of thrashing around, but nobody gets hurt. I don't know when the last time was that I saw an NBA fight where three punches landed between two guys.
Even the much heralded Luke Vs. Dawkins NBA Title fight was much ado about nothing. Mostly Luke just letting him know not to mess with his boys.
Go Blazers